(Part A) Beneficial Sorrow

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Netchaplain

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One can learn to be at peace with everything, knowing that God causes the believer to benefit in all things (Ro 8:28)! “Be anxious for nothing.” “Let not your heart be troubled” (Phl 4:6; Jn 14:1, 27). One can achieve these commands when in the right understanding of their impress; and this obedience (strengthened faith) admits to the greatest satisfaction, encouragement and exhortation! One will have occasional problems, and this is for the learning and strengthening of our faith, which mostly comes through the trials, but one does not have to allow anything to escalate to the point of “trouble”; and I’ve eventually learned (after 20 of my 45 years in the Lord Jesus) not to allow anything to trouble me, because I’m certain that God uses everything, one way or another—for my “good.” May our beloved Father teach you to be at peace in all things. Blessed be God!
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Beneficial Sorrow

It is ten years this month since the Lord called away our son, then 18 years of age, to Himself. It seemed almost unaccountable to me that He should have deprived me of him when he was so thoroughly devoted to Him, and therefore could have been such a help and comfort to me.

It is very easy for me to weep with you. I never realized the exit of a saint until I saw our dear boy pass away. It then made a very decided mark on me. Stephen looking up steadfastly into heaven came before me in quite a new way. Thank the Lord it grows upon me: the hardness seems shorter. The Spirit leads to the brightest spot, and the Father allows the wave of death to overtake us here so “that we may be partakers of His holiness” (Heb 12:10). It is His doing. Surely, from the bottom of my heart, I desire and pray that this immeasurable sorrow may be only the night before your brightest say. God comfort you in His own blessed way.

Your chief friend is the one who is found near you in sorrow. Anyone can share in your joy, but there is really only One who can enter into the nature of your sorrow, and He, blessed be His name, is very near you in your desolation. He proves to us that “it is better to go to the house of mourning than to the house of feasting” (Eccl 7:2 – “by the sadness of the countenance, the heart is made better” - Ecc 7:3). The silence of death is a terrible reality; though, through divine grace you can anticipate the great day when we shall all surround our Lord Jesus, and be with Him forever (if we are not certain of this, we still are not at the level of peace God’s desires us to be, and are in grave need of learning—NC).

There is no sorrow as great as the sorrow of death, and this the more so as the one removed is near and dear to you. There is a desolation about death that no one can understand who has not been in it. But your desolation is the Lord’s opportunity of making known to you the deep interest He takes in you, not merely in your bright hours, but in the moment when you are well-nigh crushed with sorrow.

It imparts the deepest sense of His interest that He should draw near to me when absorbed with my own sorrow, to console me with Himself that He becomes more to me than my sorrow. This His sympathy effects. It is an effect never to be forgotten, or rather the impression He will give you of Hs love which will never be forgotten, so that your deep affliction through His grace will be turned into the deepest blessing (blessings for sorrows forever to exchange—NC); “the dry ground into watersprings,” “The garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness” (Psa 107:35; Isa 61:3).


There are sorrows that the heart thinks that it only knows; and this is true, speaking naturally, and yet there is One who knows well the deepest, and far more than the deepest sorrow ever in our hearts (His own past sorrows which were the greatest of all—NC). Sorrow is to me not only the deepest feeling known to the heart, but it is, I might say, the sublimest, because entirely one’s own. No one else can have the exact same. How aptly it suits one in sorrow to sit alone. How truly the heart can say, “My sorrow lies too deep for human sympathy,” and yet, when the Lord Jesus joins you in this great solitude you will find in Him, as Mary did, that not only He knows your sorrow, but that His sorrow is deeper, beyond any comparison. A Man of Sorrows” (Isa 53:3).

The darkness of sorrow is deep indeed, but I pray that the deepest joy may be known to you with the Lord Jesus Himself. The deepest sorrow here, but the deepest joy with Him in company with Himself. Surely when we are in our spirit apart from this place, and with the Lord Jesus at the other side of death, we taste a joy and a solace which bears us above the deepest anguish here (because our eternal guarantee supersedes all sorrows—NC). There is a blessed comfort for the heart in sorrow when you are drawn to His side where He is. Nothing mellows anyone so much as sorrow does, when the heart has found sympathy in it from the Lord Jesus.

I do not think that physical suffering weans the heart from the present seen to the same extent that sorrow does. Bodily suffering too often engrosses one’s personal attention; one feels so helpless, and there is such a constant effort to remove it, and indulgence (maybe even to sin—NC) often is excused on the plea of consideration for one’s weakness. But in sorrow, we grow into the sense that we are in “the valley of the shadow of death” (sorrow can bring one to the point of having no feelings for anything, but we need not to dwell in sorrow, considering what we have in Christ—NC). When there is suffering of the body there is a longing to get well; and often resistance to the suffering, so that we are taught how helpless we are, and in sorrow on account of another everything around has lost its interest to us.
 

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How painful it was for me to read this! And yet it's probably true. Today my wife and I are meeting up with a couple who have taken care of perhaps 70 medically fragile babies who were orphans or removed from parents' custody. They did this not for money but out of the kindness of their hearts.

The man knew we were religious, but said he no longer believed in God. He had years before been a Baptist, and his ex-wife was a Catholic. But he asked, "What supposed God would bring into the world all of these suffering little babies?"

I told him that is the commonly stated "problem of evil." And my wife and I both stated that the problem was one of human freedom, and not of God's pre-determined will.

We do suffer a lot of frustration in our lives. But I agree, God is there and works things out for those who choose to love Him. And I pray this couple comes to know God in a way that the problem of evil is bypassed in the knowledge of God's love.
 

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How painful it was for me to read this! And yet it's probably true. Today my wife and I are meeting up with a couple who have taken care of perhaps 70 medically fragile babies who were orphans or removed from parents' custody. They did this not for money but out of the kindness of their hearts.

The man knew we were religious, but said he no longer believed in God. He had years before been a Baptist, and his ex-wife was a Catholic. But he asked, "What supposed God would bring into the world all of these suffering little babies?"

I told him that is the commonly stated "problem of evil." And my wife and I both stated that the problem was one of human freedom, and not of God's pre-determined will.

We do suffer a lot of frustration in our lives. But I agree, God is there and works things out for those who choose to love Him. And I pray this couple comes to know God in a way that the problem of evil is bypassed in the knowledge of God's love.
Thanks Randy for sharing this. It could be that this person is saved but doesn't realize it yet, for one cannot truly believe in God and latter claim he doesn't believe in God; as faith, like salvation is permanent! It's either he believes or doesn't believe. Regardless of which, it's a great service he is providing, and hope God is with him!!

Looks like I forgot to include part B.
 
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One will have occasional problems, and this is for the learning and strengthening of our faith

When you define the fact that sometimes your car breaks down, or your roof leaks, is only and always God "strengthening" your faith.. or "proving your faith".... Then, you deny the 2nd law of Thermodynamics, (Entropy).. ect. and have falsely concluded that John Calvin's "pre-destining" of everything is True.

Its not True.
Calvinism is a "doctrine of devils"... Hebrews 13:9

One of the worst things about how Calvinism, ruins a Christian's faith, is that it shifts to God, all the BLAME, regarding what the Devil does in this world, as if God is the Devil., and the Devil is asleep somewhere.
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Satan is not asleep, and the fact that He's blinded the minds of millions of Believers using CALVINISM...., proves that He's "on the Job".
 
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When you define the fact that sometimes your car breaks down, or your roof leaks, is only and always God "strengthening" your faith.. or "proving your faith"....
Hi and thanks for the reply! For the Christian, God uses everything for our good, esp. for strengthening our faith, since it is only in this life faith exists, as we will eventually walk by sight and not be faith.
Then, you deny the 2nd law of Thermodynamics, (Entropy).. ect. and have falsely concluded that John Calvin's "pre-destining" of everything is True.
The only doctrine that I disagree with concerning Calvinism is that God chooses who will and won't be saved. It's my belief that God knows who has the desire to be right with Him, and brings only them to salvation. God cannot choose but man must choose, or it isn't fair, and we know God is fair and has "no respect of person," He is not prejudice (Luk 20:21; Act 10:34; Rom 2:11; Gal 2:6; Eph 6:9; Col 3:25; 1Pe 1:17). He cannot save anyone who doesn't want to be right with Him!
 
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