OSAS Question

[Taken]

either Mary is God
Or
Mary never existed

WOW!
You need a new teacher.

 

[theefaith]

I don't say 'faith alone' unless I am talking about James' argument about 'faith alone'. James' 'faith alone' argument is NOT Paul's 'righteousness apart from works*' argument. For clarity I would like you to address Paul's argument in the way he stated it in the scriptures: "...to whom God credits righteousness apart from works..." Romans 4:6

*correction, my bad.

Ok

 

[theefaith]

I'll have to do some digging. I've seen the documentation shared once or twice in forums. If I understand correctly, it is their perceived authority over Christ that gave them the confidence to change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.

Ok

 

[theefaith]

WOW!
You need a new teacher.

That was his doctrine

 

[theefaith]

It’s a automatic fundamentalist reaction

mary automatically means idol adoration worship

 

[theefaith]

Fundamentalist brainwashing

 

[theefaith]

What DO YOU ALSO REQUIRE (other than Faith) to Be Saved?

the sacraments baptism Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38
How does the eunuch know about baptism

 

[kcnalp]

"Partaking of the Holy Spirit"...
DOES NOT mean Saved.

It sure does!

So what about it? Why do you think that is SOOOOO important?
Not news, the Unsaved have a fire pit to look foreward to.

It's important because OSAS gives people a license to live in sin, as one OSASer admitted here.

 

[kcnalp]

outside the church there is no salvation

What church? Your church? Jesus is my Savior, not Mary.

 

[theefaith]

What church? Your church? Jesus is my Savior, not Mary.

if Jesus was a you’re savior you must be saved? But the Bible says not
Matt 24:13

how did you put on Christ?

 

[kcnalp]

either Mary is God
Or
Mary never existed

rejection of scripture is rejection of Christ

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-3


A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

Say it Hail Mary!


Good enough for Angels!
Good enough for the Bible!
Good enough for me!

Hail Mary! Full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women,
Lk 1:28 blessed is the fruit of thy womb, (Jesus) Lk 1:42 Holy Mary, mother of God, Lk 1:43 pray for us sinners, now,
rev 5:8 and at the hour of our death, Matt 24:13 amen!

Drop the fundamentalist brainwashing
No idols no worship no adoration

reverence love devotion honor are not worship

Only Jesus was sinless, not Mary! NONE of that says she was sinless!

Romans 3:23 (NKJV)
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

 

[kcnalp]

either Mary is God
Or
Mary never existed

So Mary is your God? Wow!

rejection of scripture is rejection of Chris

Amen! Mary was a sinner. The Bible says so.

Romans 3:23 (NKJV)
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Immaculate conception (sinless)

Not in the Christian Bible!

gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-3


A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

Say it Hail Mary!


Good enough for Angels!
Good enough for the Bible!
Good enough for me!

Hail Mary! Full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women,
Lk 1:28 blessed is the fruit of thy womb, (Jesus) Lk 1:42 Holy Mary, mother of God, Lk 1:43 pray for us sinners, now,
rev 5:8 and at the hour of our death, Matt 24:13 amen!

Drop the fundamentalist brainwashing
No idols no worship no adoration

reverence love devotion honor are not worship

I'll stick with Jesus, the ONLY sinless human as my Savior.

 

[kcnalp]

if Jesus was a you’re savior you must be saved? But the Bible says not
Matt 24:13

how did you put on Christ?

Good luck with Mary being your God on Judgment Day. I'll stick with SINLESS Jesus Who shed His Blood for me!

 

[amadeus]

It’s a automatic fundamentalist reaction

mary automatically means idol adoration worship

You are generalizing again. Try to understand what an individual is saying and what that individual means and believes. Do not presume that they are all following certain unchanging black and white rules. Some may really be doing that, but do not presume. We are mostly all different in some respects in how we believe and worship God.

 

[theefaith]

[QUOTE="kcnalp, post

can you be saved without a priest?

 

[theefaith]

Only Jesus was sinless, not Mary! NONE of that says she was sinless!

Romans 3:23 (NKJV)
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

You did not read it

Rom 3 is a generalization and is not absolute does not include children or the mentally ill
Also refers to original sin of which Mary was preserved free from the first moment of Her creation
Lk 1:49 things plural
What things?

 

[kcnalp]

You did not read it

Rom 3 is a generalization and is not absolute does not include children or the mentally ill
Also refers to original sin of which Mary was preserved free from the first moment of Her creation
Lk 1:49 things plural
What things?

Luke 1:49 says no such thing! You're making it up.

 

[theefaith]

Good luck with Mary being your God on Judgment Day. I'll stick with SINLESS Jesus Who shed His Blood for me!

that’s your fantasy not mine
The mother of God is not divine

only the trinity father son and Hs are divine

You have a personal savior salvation or covenant I suppose

 

[kcnalp]

[QUOTE="kcnalp, post

can you be saved without a priest?

Haven't you heard? Jesus is my Priest. Not Mary. Not the Pope!

Hebrews 8 (NKJV)
1 Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,

Hebrews 9:11 (NKJV)
11 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation.

 

[kcnalp]

that’s your fantasy not mine
The mother of God is not divine

only the trinity father son and Hs are divine

You have a personal savior salvation or covenant I suppose

You said, "either Mary is God
Or
Mary never existed"

 

[theefaith]

Luke 1:49 says no such thing! You're making it up.

Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.

he that is mighty is God

has done great things (plural)

things is more than one

what are these things

One: immaculate conception of Mary in her mothers womb, created free of all sin

two: miraculous conception Jesus in Mary by the HS