ONCE….ONCE….(OSAS)….ONCE!!!

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Gaslighting and slander are common symptoms of those who suffer from a severe case of anti-OSAS derangement syndrome. :(

Those who erroneously interpret 1 John 1:9 to mean that we "must confess each and every sin that we commit as we commit them" (keep a specific inventory of every sin) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and "if we forget a sin, we are toast" will typically misinterpret Romans 3:25 to mean that Jesus only forgives sins committed in the past but not all of our sins.

Notice that - "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1 John 1:9) is in contrast to - If we say that we have no sin, (present tense) we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (1 John 1:8) and - If we say that we have not sinned, (past tense) we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:10)

Who could actually write an exhaustive list of every sin they have ever committed or ever will commit? Sin is not only missing the mark by what we do but also what we fail to do. (James 4:17)

Romans 3:25 (AMP) - whom God displayed publicly [before the eyes of the world] as a [life-giving] sacrifice of atonement and reconciliation (propitiation) by His blood [to be received] through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness [which demands punishment for sin], because in His forbearance [His deliberate restraint] He passed over the sins previously committed [before Jesus’ crucifixion].

This sheds light on what is meant by PAST sins. It does not mean that Jesus' death was ONLY for past sins or that ONLY our past sins are forgiven.

Acts 13:39 - and by Him everyone who believes is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses. :Thumbsup:

Further translations of Romans 3:25 read:

ESV - whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.

HCSB - God presented Him as a propitiation through faith in His blood, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His restraint God passed over the sins previously committed.

NASB - whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed.

NIV - God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished.

In regard to Hebrews 10:26, to "sin willfully" here carries the idea of deliberate intention that is habitual, which stems from rejecting Christ deliberately. This is continuous action, a matter of practice. Now we don't walk along our daily life and "accidentally" fall into a pit called sin. We exercise our will but, the use of the participle clearly shows continuous, willful, habitual action. The unrighteous practice sin (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21); not the righteous, who are born of God. (1 Corinthians 6:11; 1 John 3:9)

By the time we all the way down to verse 39, the writer of Hebrews points out a very important contrast - But "WE" are not of those who draw back to perdition, but "OF THOSE" who believe to the saving of the soul. Those who draw back to perdition do not believe to the saving of the soul and those who believe to the saving of the soul do not draw back to perdition. So, those who draw back to perdition and do not believe to the saving of the soul were not born-again Christians.

In regard to 1 John 1:7, believers were (past tense) once/formerly darkness but are now light in the Lord and we are to walk as children of light. (Ephesians 5:8) *Walking in darkness is descriptive of children of the devil. Walking in the light is 'descriptive' of children of God.

Only those who are saved/believers are in the light.

Acts 26:18 - to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.

2 Corinthians 6:14 - Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?

1 Thessalonians 5:4 - But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.

1 John 1:6 - If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

In 1 John 2:9, we read - He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now. In vs. 11 - But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

*Compare with 1 John 3:10 - In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, (compare with 1 John 1:6 - does not practice the truth) nor is he who does not love his brother.

*Notice that walks in darkness, hates his brother is 'descriptive' of children of the devil.

Folks who end up misinterpreting scripture for the sake of accommodating a preconceived or biased held view really need to start being honest and learn how to read scripture in context and properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching their conclusion on doctrine. More exegesis and less eisegesis.
I believe Paul calls them fools. beginning in the spirit (grace) and perfecting in the flesh (works)
 

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I believe Paul calls them fools. beginning in the spirit (grace) and perfecting in the flesh (works)
Type 2 works salvation seems to be a major stumbling block for certain folks. From beginning "have been saved through faith" (Ephesians 2:8) to end "receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls (1 Peter 1:9) salvation is by grace through faith and is not by works. Sadly, certain folks may attempt to start off at the cross but end up trying to finish by works. That is foolish. (1 Corinthians 1:18-21)
 
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Type 2 works salvation seems to be a major stumbling block for certain folks. From beginning "have been saved through faith" (Ephesians 2:8) to end "receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls (1 Peter 1:9) salvation is by grace through faith and is not by works. Sadly, certain folks may attempt to start off at the cross but end up trying to finish by works. That is foolish. (1 Corinthians 1:18-21)
Its been Satan's greatest lie since Adam
 
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Gaslighting and slander are common symptoms of those who suffer from a severe case of anti-OSAS derangement syndrome. :(

Hi Dan…hi hope you had a pleasant Christmas.

The Mosaic Law contained….Many things ….
* Common Laws… specific to The Hebrews / Jews…rituals, celebrations of Sabbaths, females issues of blood, considered married (not wed) once agreed /promised, mixing fabrics, sin offerings of particular animals yearly, pilgrimages, etc.
[All considered Sins Against God if not obeyed)

* Also Commands…otherwise WRITTEN Statutes. Remembering God Himself “Wrote” the Ten Commandments in Stone… ie. The Statutes of God.

* Precepts…which is the PROPER (Acceptable) Behavior between and Among “humans”.
* Love all (even enemies and those you do not LIKE.)
* Not required to tolerate ungodly behavior.
Aside from the Common Hebrew/ Jewish Laws….
* Violation of The Statutes…(Commands)…
Lying, cheating, stealing, coveting, murdering
Against God is a IS A SIN.
AGAINST men IS A TRESPASS.

Only the Lord God CAN FORGIVE SIN.
Men can ONLY FORGIVE TRESPASSES.


OT Mosaic Laws did NOT apply to Gentiles..
and Does Not Apply to Gentiles today because an ignorant Gentile think they do.

Regarding the Commands.. they were included in the NT ( except the Command regarding the Sabbaths).
( So that leaves a Gentile with (9) Laws to Consider…obeying….and a Sin Against God if the Commit such a violation.

Moving Forward…

A Jew….A Gentile who HAS …
Accepted (TAKEN)…(according to Gods Order and Way)…
The Lord Gods Offering:
*Of “soul”. (Restoration)…called Salvation…
*Of “spirit” (Quickening)…called Born Again.

That individual….(Jew or Gentile) HAS drastically REDUCED his Liability …Regarding SIN AGAINT God.

Meaning….Now there IS ONLY Two (2) things that man COULD Do that is a SIN Against God…

# 1….Not Love the Lord God Above All things.
# 2…Not Love other men.
(Matt 22: 36-40)

* Now a man who HAS become MADE Sanctified and Born Again…. Has the Great Fortune of 24-7 for the rest of his Mortal Life…to have the Spirit of God IN him (called IN Christ)…
Which means… it is the Power of God IN that man….who Keeps that man….in Obedience…
To Love God Above all other things
And;
To Love all other men. Even his enemies!

* SO ….WHAT LAW….WHAT (present / future) SIN…
Can A man indwelt with Gods Power “commit”?


Nada, zip, none!

And why scripture SAYS…and means what it says…
1 John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


There Is no such thing as FUTURE Sin for a man IN Christ…and Christ (ie the POWER of God) IN a man!

All day long men accuse men of SINNInG Against Them….which is False….
Men certainly DO ( intentionally and unintentionally ) TRESPASS AGAINST other me….
And men absolutely Can Ask…and Give Trespass Forgiveness. (and btw…out of pocket PAY for any damages their Trespass Caused another)…

OT Precepts still applicable for All men.

God Bless you and yours.

Glory to God,
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Gaslighting and slander are common symptoms of those who suffer from a severe case of anti-OSAS derangement syndrome. :

Gaslighting is …another making up Lies…Saying it is an others Belief… Then disagreeing with the Lie they have made up.
Twisted ! : (

This forum provides A persons OWN words An other Can respond to…

Gaslighting is what frauds do … because their own position is without merit for them to Stand on.

Where in all of the topics of OSAS…. Do deniers talk about how they were Saved?
OR how MANY times they were Saved?
OR Anything related to “their” Salvation?

Denying and making up Lies… is not simply disagreeing and stating why…rather making a false accusation.

But then, I do not accredit a majority to be skilled in Spiritual Understanding or the brightest crayon in the box.


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“don't accept the whole counsel of God”

“can continue living in sin and still be in right standing with the Lord”

“the false "security in sin" doctrine taught by demons claiming to be speaking for the Lord”

“verifying the fear”

These are the attributes the OSAS peoples adhere to with much pride as they espouse the
false doctrines of OSAS leading others astray as their father the devil commands them to do.
 

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These are the attributes the OSAS peoples adhere to with much pride as they espouse the
false doctrines of OSAS leading others astray as their father the devil commands them to do.

No need for you to speak for others…
How about you speak for yourself of what applies to you and give honest answers?

Has your soul been saved? How many times?

Has your spirit been quickened? How many times?
 
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Gaslighting is …another making up Lies…Saying it is an others Belief… Then disagreeing with the Lie they have made up.
Twisted ! : (

This forum provides A persons OWN words An other Can respond to…

Gaslighting is what frauds do … because their own position is without merit for them to Stand on.

Where in all of the topics of OSAS…. Do deniers talk about how they were Saved?
OR how MANY times they were Saved?
OR Anything related to “their” Salvation?

Denying and making up Lies… is not simply disagreeing and stating why…rather making a false accusation.

But then, I do not accredit a majority to be skilled in Spiritual Understanding or the brightest crayon in the box.


Glory to God,
Taken
Proverbs 10:18 - Lying lips conceal hatred, and whoever utters slander is a fool.
 

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Adam was offered Salvation and Forever Life…

He did NOT Choose to TAKE Gods Offering.

Adams Offering;

Gen 2
[9] And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.


Adam did NOT Take;

Gen.3
[22] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Adam died.

Gen. 5:
[5] And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

Glory to God,
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No need for you to speak for others…

When one compares what the OSAS peoples teach with scripture... the OSAS peoples come up short.

That's too bad for the OSAS peoples who have to cherry pick scripture and ignore the rest of God's Word to try and deceive others others in to following the OSAS cult.


Born Again…once….and shall Live Forever.

That's what the OSAS cult teaches.... one can live in sin and still be saved!

That's why there's so many running around claiming to be christians while living in sin... they have itching ears and OSAS cult doctrine ticklers their ears nicely and fits with their desire to continue living in sin, so they all jump on the OSAS cult bandwagon.
 

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That's what the OSAS cult teaches.... one can live in sin and still be saved!

Tsk Tsk shame shame you still making False Claims.

OSAS …sanctified…perfected FOREVER

Born of God…SIN NO MORE!!!


Glory to God.


Heb 10:
[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

1John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
 

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Hey y’all…

Happy New Year,,,May God Blees you and yours with an abundance of His Love.

Listening to the Doobie bros…

Jesus is just alright with me
Jesus is just alright, whoa, yeah
Jesus is just alright with me
Jesus is just alright

I don't care what they may know
I don't care where they may go
I don't care what they may know
Jesus is just alright, oh yeah

Jesus, He's my friend
Jesus, well, He's my friend
He took me by the hand
He led me far from this land
Jesus, He's my friend

Be Thankful and Praise the Lord…
for ONCE and Forever He has Saved the Sanctified.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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Born of God…SIN NO MORE!!!

You claim to have not committed even one sin since getting saved???

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Yeah, that's not going to end well laughing.gif
 

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Shame on you fort being a cherry picka not accepting ALL of what God says in His Word

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You speaking FOR me is Not My Truth…

I have clearly multiple times Said my Belief is ….
All Scripture IS True…
(You undermining my belief with your false accusations is juvenile, old and boring.)

What you Fail to comprehend…
IS: accomplish~ED “WORKS” DO NOT REQUIRE “Repeating”, they ARE called….Finish-ED


Did you miss the elementary lesson in the suffix meaning. “ED”?

ONCE you have finished breakfast…do you barf it up and eat it again?

ONCE you have finished painting your house….do you PAINT it again every day?

ONCE Jesus Was Hung on the Cross, until his “prepared Body Died”…was his Prepared Body EVER AGAIN hung on the Cross to Die?

Why Not?

Jesus rose up Alive…was SEEN by multitudes….AND? Captured Again…Again Crucified? No

Why Not? Did the Roman Soldiers all of a sudden Become “too lame”, “too few”, “without weapons of Iron”… to use their brute power to KILL Jesus AGAIN? No.

So the QUESTION to you is…
“How many times DID Jesus’ Prepared Body DIE”?

And How many Times is an “Earthly human Body “Required” TO Die?

And WHEN was Jesus’ Body … “Recognized BY “human eyes” as being Glorified”?

And WHEN are Human earthly men Recognized (and BY WHOM) as Being Accounted Glorified?

You do not Believe…what ALL Scripture teaches…
* Human Body’s ARE required to Die…. ONCE
* Human Body’s By their Heartful Belief AND Word….{ not their Carnal Mind) CAN GIVE their Body (by Vow) unto Death…
(Crucified with Jesus….ACCOUNTED Raised UP with Jesus…OCCUPY His Risen Body Called “IN” Christ…
Until the Day Their OWN body is (assured / guaranteed) To be Risen UP Glorified.

That DOES NOT occur OVER and OVER…anymore than Jesus’ body was killed over and over or risen up over and over!

A humans Repentance For having Had NOT Believed…IS ONCE
A humans …Forgiveness, (FROM God), FOR Having HAD NOT Believed: IS Given ONCE
A humans Heartful confession IS ONCE.
A humans Bodily Deathwith Jesus IS ONCE.
A humans Accounting (in the Lambs Book of Life )IS ONCE…NEVER subject to a mans Accounting being Blotted OUT).
A humans SOUL Restoration / Saving IS Given (From God) ONCE
A humans Natural spirit IS (Circumcised, BY God) ONCE
A human Receives Gods Seed.. ONCE
A human Receives Gods Quickening (spirit seed Re-birth) ONCE
A human Receives Gods SPIRIT of TRUTH “IN them”, (Gods Holy SPIRIT, From God ) ONCE
A human IS SEALED unto God ONCE.
That such SAME human…SHALL Receive (From God)…
*…A new NAME
*…A MARK … Gods NAME…in their Forehead.


Since You are emphatically AGAINST Gods Word of That which a human IS Offered to TAKE And POSESS ONCE and Forever by, through, of Gods Offering…and Gods Word and Power to KEEP that individual with Him Forever….

You can repetitively Reject Gods Word…and rail Against Those WHO Trust and HAVE ONCE and FOREVER Accepted Gods Offering…( which Biblically your railing Against…is called persecution against Believers FOR Believing Gods Word)…
And…the Fact IS…
They …bodily Crucified with Jesus…are still risen with Jesus…are still IN CHRIST…are Still Soul Saved…Are Still Spirit Born Again…Are Still Still Sealed unto God…Are Still Made and Kept “Once and forever” Whole; body, soul, spirit …by the POWER of God….
Despite your own or others, unbelief’s.


And While ALL Scriptures ARE TRUE…
The WISE…No longer APPLY to THEMSELVES…that which they HAVE ALREADY Accomplish-ED!!! Duh! :rolleyes:

If you have NOT Once and forever Been MADE Accomplished WHOLE by the Power of God…
There Are a Plethora of (Not Accomplish-ED) Scriptures “you Should be Cherry-picking…and NOT applying to yourself…”.
 

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You claim to have not committed even one sin since getting saved???

That is correct…
But then I highly DOUBT…you could accurately Define what Sin IS…Or accurately Understand WHAT Sin IS.
 
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You speaking FOR me is Not My Truth…

Well you did say "Born of God…SIN NO MORE!!!"

I guess you "think" you have accomplished absolute perfection. Hilarious!laughing.gif

And out of all the scriptures you posted... you FAILED to mention the warnings the Lord gives in His Word to Christians that it is possible for believers to become corrupt after having been born again and not enter God's Kingdom.

Another example of not accepting the whole counsel of God which is very common in these last days where deception has caused most "believers" to become lukewarm

Jesus said He would spew the lukewarm out of His mouth which is out of the Body of Christ Revelation 3:16


That is correct…
But then I highly DOUBT…you could accurately Define what Sin IS…Or accurately Understand WHAT Sin IS.
Sinless perfection... that's hilarious! laughing3.gif
 

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Well you did say "Born of God…SIN NO MORE!!!"

I guess you "think" you have accomplished absolute perfection. Hilarious!View attachment 55632

Your laughter following your own words and lack of Understanding Is sad.

My “perfection” is Not Manifested for (your human eyes) to see…

My “perfection” IS “me being IN Christs Perfect Sinless Body”…
My own personal “perfection” shall be “manifested” at the moment “my own…perfected body is Raised up! Duh!

And out of all the scriptures you posted... you FAILED to mention the warnings the Lord gives in His Word to Christians that it is possible for believers to become corrupt after having been born again and not enter God's Kingdom.

No such Scriptures Make THAT False Claim!

Another example of not accepting the whole counsel of God which is very common in these last days where deception has caused most "believers" to become lukewarm.

Nothing new… “Believers” can and Do …Fall From Faith…

Falling From Faith is NOT…equal to Having Salvation…then Becoming “unsaved”!!

Sinless perfection... that's hilarious! View attachment 55631

Seems you are “Not included with those who are “Sanctified” and you ignorant of Those WHO ARE “Sanctifi-ED”, and as suspected unknowing of HOW they were MADE “Sanctifi-ED.”

Heb 7:
[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

The Failure is accountable to you, not me.

Glory to God,
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