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More lire the prodgial son who realised he was wrong and Dad was right, and even before he got there his Dad was already running to him. and while all these "sinners" stay away from God thinking He is going to beat them with a big Stick, all He desires to do is rejoice in that one who was lost came home, and all of heaven rejoices, pity it doesnt happen often....
People are in many different places in their walk with God. Some are very young and ignorant, but their love toward God sees them through the worst of times. We should not remain ignorant as time goes by. We need to grow in the things of God. If we do not then we will stagnate and eventually die completely to God. If a person never get lazy or weary in the things of God, he will never have worry about such things. Many people came to God lazy and while they were delighted in the beginning of their walk with Him, they never worked to get out of the laziness. We all are naturally lazy. In the flesh we need to get out of the that to find any natural success. In the things spiritual on God's side, it is even more important to work as we can when we can. Slothfulness will get anyone into to trouble.
Yes, and if this is a first step, it certainly should not be a final step. Jesus grew and we must grow as the new man of God.
"And Jesus increase in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man" Luke 2:52
As long as your subsequent steps do not place you outside of the fold of the Good Shepherd.
If we are sheep hearing His voice and following His lead, we have no excuse for stumbling. But... if we do, we serve a helpful and merciful God.
Apostasy is something that, if one crosses the line over into it, he can't ever return (Hebrews 6:1-8).
Jesus once asked me. why do I kick myself so,, And i said, because I know I can do better,, seems HE doesnt care that much if we stumble, He is always there to catch us, dont need excuses, could never provide Him with a decent one anyway, He knew what He was getting with us long before we where even born, no surprises for Him..
we have no life if we worry, and says much about our faith
Just for the record, that was not all of MY post, my part was "I think they call that hyper-grace. Not at all a proponent, lol!" The first part was posted by @amadeus :)
The thing that you apostasized from? That would be the faith...if you are even guilty of apostasy.
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Well, in a sense, I suppose His grace IS something to be hyper-joyful about because that is what has saved us! I always hear that "those people are abusing Gods grace TO sin" I am sure there are those who do that...hence, folks will put ALL grace teachers and their listeners in the same box. ♥
Aside from sinless perfection, did you know that whoever engages in any of the 17 works of the flesh will not inherit the Kingdom of God?
Galatians 5
[19] Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,[20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,[21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
And these are sins if they never leave the thought realm. This is why we need to censor impure thoughts, especially hatred.
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if you test your defs you will find that the def you have chosen to arbitrate for us under the guise of "what WE are all used to " is surely as whacked as the arbitration, meaning no offense here. And I mean prolly every single one too. This is why you will not address the pertinent part of most posts I guess, being as how they confront your bad definitions, but I feel I have to remind you now that that is Scripture you are ignoring and deflecting away from back there, and this is pretty telling imo. You're gonna be stuck trading lies with mjr if you re not careful!
No Son of Man may die for another's sins, whether you like that or not, and etc, wadr. And you can paper over that if you like, but it will not change. Be as deterministic and authoritative-sounding as you know how, it will not help. In fact it just makes the truth clearer I guess. Happy new year though :)
I get that you are just defending what you have been taught is "from God" ok; but as you say, Scripture does not contradict itself. Contemplate why God had to lie to you, when you came seeking to save your life, or why you cannot find any Support in Scripture for your most closely held beliefs, and have to basically absent yourself from the convo when it gets pointed out. You and your sons will be here with me regardless, ok? iOw I am not saying i am any more saved or holy or heaven-bound than you are, nothing like that. But you lied to your kids too, see
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