Oklahoma orders first shipment of Bibles for use in public school classrooms

[Lambano]

There does not have to be a guarantee. I decided that I will side with Christ, come hell or high water. Moral ambivalence is too cowardly for me these days. I boldly proclaim allegiance to my King. If people don't like it, too bad.

Good. Then put on your big-girl panties and start doing the work of evangelizing.

 

[Wrangler]

We need to grow a pair and buckle down to do the hard work Christ commissioned us to do.

Guess what? That is EXACTLY what is happening in Oklahoma. Good observation.

 

[Wrangler]

Good. Then put on your big-girl panties and start doing the work of evangelizing.

You've lost the argument. Resorting to personal attacks proves this.

Both can be done. Educate kids via public education AND individually evangelize.

 

[Lambano]

Both can be done. Educate kids via public education AND individually evangelize.

Educate kids in the Bible. In Muslim neighborhoods, the Quran.

 

[Rockerduck]

Educate kids in the Bible. In Muslim neighborhoods, the Quran.

The USA is doing that right now. Iran has the largest and fastest growing Christian community in the middle east. Mosques are closing up big time. One missionary said it was easier to preach Jesus in the middle east than on the streets of the USA.

 

[Matthias]

Do parents want their children educated by unqualified teachers?

 

[Matthias]

* And now the state will determine what children are taught about the Bible and what it teaches. *

 

[Rockerduck]

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* And now the state will determine what children are taught about the Bible and what it teaches. *

Only in School, not in Church's or the home. What would you rather have, some or none. Its hard enough to find a church that preaches against sin.

 

[Matthias]

In Oklahoma the Bible teaches “this,” in New York the Bible teaches “that”; and in California the Bible teaches neither “this” nor “that”.

 

[Matthias]

Only in School, not in Church's or the home.

For now, anyway. And only in one state, so far.

Will we one day turn into China in this regard?

What would you rather have, some or none.

A little bit of leaven leavens the whole loaf.

But to your question: In the public school, none. The public school should leave the teaching of the Bible to parents and the church.

Its hard enough to find a church that preaches against sin.

Shame on the church then.

 

[Matthias]

Meet your Bible teacher, little children.

Does the Bible teach this?

Are there parents / teachers who believe that it does? Yes.

Are there parents / teachers who believe that it doesn’t? Yes. (I’m located here.)

A hypothetical:

Your child has enrolled in a Bible class where the teacher sincerely believes this is what the Bible teaches and will instruct the class with that understanding in mind. You discover this after the class work begins. What’s your move as a parent?

 

[Lambano]

When we abdicate our responsibility to make disciples, remember to whom we are delegating that task.

 

[Wrangler]

Educate kids in the Bible. In Muslim neighborhoods, the Quran.

Community standards not withstanding, the sovereign State has the power to decide to teach their citizens our Christian heritage.

 

[Lambano]

Community standards not withstanding, the sovereign State has the power to decide to teach their citizens our Christian heritage.

And the power to decide to teach their citizens to worship the Sovereign State itself. Remember that. The State is not necessarily your friend.

 

[WitnessX]

Beware a Trojan horse. The KJV today, what tomorrow?

 

[Wrangler]

And the power to decide to teach their citizens to worship the Sovereign State itself. Remember that. The State is not necessarily your friend.

OMG! There is no such thing as ‘separation of church and state’ in our Constitution.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Community standards not withstanding, the sovereign State has the power to decide to teach their citizens our Christian heritage.

Are you advocating liberty and freedom whist defending dictatorship? Isn’t that hypocritical?

“First Amendment Fundamental Freedoms
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Perhaps learning what your own constitution declares is a first step to seeing what your own position really is? You cannot force people to do something against their will.....especially not in a religious context.

OMG! There is no such thing as ‘separation of church and state’ in our Constitution.

I think you are mistaken....freedom of religion is guaranteed under your constitution. Do you want to rewrite it to suit your own biased position?
Parental backlash will cause nothing but trouble.....but what will be, will be, as it is all prophesied to take place. Something has to be the catalyst for the cataclysmic change that is coming. Nothing will prevent it, no government or indoctrinated red necks will stop God’s will from taking place.

We are in “the time of the end” prophesied by Daniel some 500 years before the birth of Christ....

Of the ruling powers of our day Daniel wrote.....
“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever”.

What are you trying to prevent? All the kingdoms of this world will be crushed out of existence because they were never going to replace the rightful kingdom of God that he purposed from the beginning.......the Kingdom Jesus taught us to pray for is not associated with any world government......this is why we are to be “NO PART OF THE WORLD”.....can you see why Wrangler? Satan is this world’s ruler (1 John 5:19; Luke 4:5-7)
There seems to be no reasoning with you.....you are blinded to anything that fights with your own patriotic indoctrination. (2 Cor 4:3-4)

 

[Dan Clarkston]

My quibble is not connected to the Bibles per se (or the KJV!), but with the heavy hand of the state pushing on local school districts.

But, you are OK with gay porn being in the library...

Perhaps the money to be spent on the KJV bibles would be more effective if a more modern translation was given instead.

Yeah, if you want them to get more false doctrine. So called "modren" translations are gay friendly among other errors.

The KJV has a few errors but by and large it's one of the most accurate translations.

a better translation would be Young's Literal Translation.

Does it matter what the class teachers believe and say about what the Bible teaches?

No, it does not matter

Teachers should be followers of Jesus Christ... if not, then they should find employment else where

Please name one modern bible version that hasn't applied wokeness and gender change in it.

Exactly.

KJVO is still strong in many areas of the state.

You should point out to the catholics that... their false doctrines are NOT taught in the Bible.

Presently, I am in Kathmandu

Is Bob Segar still in Kathmandu

 

[Behold]

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Does anyone have any concerns about this?

Its great news.

The Bible can always be used as a History book, in a Classroom........Public or Private.

Teaching from the Bible, using it as a historical source, is not the same as Preaching from the Bible, which would be the "controversy"..

So, the people who will try to take this to court, will say that "you can't teach from the NT, without it being Preaching, so that is RELIGION< and that is supposed to be separated from anything Federal"... and of course that is a TWIST on the 1st amendment.. so that its redefined as "freedom FROM Religion", vs..."Freedom OF Religion".

See, the FRAMERS of the USA Constitution, didnt say that Americans should be kept from religion, in a Federal environment, .. they said that the GOVERNMENT could not enforce Religion upon the Americans...at all.

A Bible in a Classroom, is not "enforcing religion upon the Student".

Reading a Bible, does not force Religion upon anyone.

 

[WitnessX]

Bible lessons in elementary school? Texas education board says yes

Schools will not be required to use the new curriculum, but will receive extra funding if they do.

www.bbc.com

more in Texas, this can be used to insert a theocratic cirriculem down the road as a trojan horse. How many times have we seen a law, or code, or statue come into excistance only to later justify something else entirely. Taxes, the Fed, many others in Americas history. Just like California passing a law that can prevent parents access to their children’s medical records if they are 12 or older, which was then used to hid the transgender agenda. Be careful handing authority to the “state”. It usually doesn’t end well.