o ye who believe convert a muslim to the truth
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Zachariah.
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Truth is omnipresent. God is omnipresent. That means Truth and God reside within all things, not just Christianity. Although I am a Christian, I know Truth may be found in other faiths. If we are seeking Truth, we will find it within whatever we are looking at.
without shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. who believed in his name he gave right to become children of God
Sorry this is nonsense. Truth is what most accurately describes a situation, an event or all of creation.
As a Christian you are aware that Jesus is the Truth and the only way to God, so all religions, beliefs, faiths etc that don't recognise this are by default wrong.
Zachariah.
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You are within your right to hold those beliefs however I do not agree. Jesus being the reincarnation or personification of Truth means that it is only by Truth we will recieve God.
Most of the times Jesus is refering to himself he is refering to Truth. As Jesus is no longer Jesus but a living example of divinity and God. Being "possessed" comes in both negative and positives. Jesus in a similar sence was "possessed" by God. Therefore it is not him speaking anymore, rather he is a vessel.
So whenever he is refering to himself it's not a reference to the physicle Jesus in any way. It is a reference to unseen spirit of Truth that is speaking through him. I'll give you an example.
“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Matt 10:37
So this correctly interpret's as follows:
“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than Truth is not worthy of God; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than Truth is not worthy of God."
Truth plays such an important role within relationships that if we don't put it first, deception and bad behaviors start to creep in. Like for e.g. if you where my friend and I seen you do something really bad but I kept it a secret because we are friends. Then I did something even worse and you where then expected to keep it a secret because I kept yours a secret.
That's just a small example of how lack of truth in a relationship can become toxic. So we should always put it first. I even drew you a little picture.
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Again false statements.
Jesus said I Am the way, the truth and the life, no one come to the Father except by me.
At his baptism God the Father declared, This is My beloved Son.
As John says In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.
There is no reincarnation in the bible or in Christianity.
Zachariah.
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incarnation is a word used for something that pre exists and then comes into the flesh. And why do you just copy a few lines from my post? If you are going to criticize something I have written, include the whole lot so it stays in contexts otherwise it comes across like your just trying the manipulate the situation in your favor.
The majority of people can't comprehend the esoteric layer withing scripture. They couldn't back when Jesus was around and they still can't now. Like Jesus, it is the people that think differently that change the world, in any given case.
I don't consider myself to be always right, but I have done enough internal work and spent years studying not just Christianity, but an eclectic variety of philosophy and traditions of antiquity. Along with symbolism and esoteric mathematics.
For the most part, I know what I'm talking about. And if your to arrogant to even consider what I have to say then be rude about it then so be it. I have no time for ignorance.
The problem is you take the bible so litteraly. It's not meant to be litteral. It's allegorical, abstract and spiritual.
A litteral mind is a mind bound by physicality. Flesh. It has no eye to see.
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The bible is a library of different books, history, poetry, legal, mystical allegorical apocalyptic.
Depending on the literary style so we understand them.
The gospels are written as historical prose that is to be understood as such.
Jesus is not a symbol for the truth, he is the truth.
Zachariah.
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First search in google:
"We can classify most of the Bible under the genre of interpreted history. This means that not everything in it is historically accurate; rather, the authors were more concerned with conveying information (historical or not) that is important to their religious beliefs."
Parts are true like areas and locations but the story itself has been fabricated in a way to conceal esoteric knowledge. It can be seen in a hysterical sence mainly in the way of religious beliefs and practices but not as hard hystory.
However this does not take away the importance of the bible tho. The Truth concealed within these fictional stories is something of great value. The book itself becomes living. Jesus would not use words like "eye's to see" if it was meant to be understood at face value.
The whole Bible it written in a way to evoke high levels of brain function such as correlative thinking and pattern recognition. Both require high intuitive capacities and a balanced way of thinking. This is your "eye single".
The bible is fictional allegory written to convert spiritual Truth. About you.
Truth and God are the same thing. Jesus is the personification of God and Truth. God incarnate, or... if you don't like the word incarnate, God come into flesh.
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No the bible is historically true as can be demonstrated by scholars, archaeologists, museums etc.
Yes to tells us spiritual truths about ourselves, any allegorical elements you will have to prove that from the Bible. It is not enough to just claim it is allegorical.
Zachariah.
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No, in actual fact most scholars these day don't think the bible is a hysterical record. Maybe you should do some research.
The agreed term is the the bible is historical evidence of religion in that time period. Not litteal word for word history. It is similar to saying black and white films are a historical record of the cameras used in that time period.
However you are entitled to believe what you please. Still does not make it True.
I'd love to see a hysterical record, should be good for a
Seriously, Prof Robert duck Wilson, studied the Bible and ancient inscriptions, analysing the grammar, use of words etc.
The conclusion of a life time of study was that the old testament was precisely what it claims to be. That those who claim it is a late editorial production are in error.
Example, the pentateuch uses many Egyptian words and phrases.
The claims that it was written much later is disproved by the absence of Greek words and phrases.
The new testament particularly Luke and Acts have been shown to be totally accurate when places, political organisation and titles are mentioned.
Zachariah.
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It's so unfortunate you hang on to this nonsense when you have such a great understanding of natural law. And it's a shame that you fail to see the underlying patterns within the old Testament. Patterns that are to precise to be a natural series of events.
I believe the bible is the word of God, as Timothy says living and active. It is there for us to learn how to worship and serve God.
You may find allegorical meanings in scripture, but, those meaning can only confirm what scripture already says.
There are No new revelations in your allegorical interpretations.
Zachariah.
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Yes. You do believe. And that's the problem. A blind man believes the sky is blue because his friend told him. A man with eyes to see knows the sky is blue. This is the difference between you and me.
There are always new revilations. The serpent sheds it's skin every so often, if it didn't, it would get old and rotten.
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