Now you have two forms of knowledge: that you know and that Christ knows you (torn?)

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Gottservant

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Hi there,

So there is a dynamic in the life of Earth dwellers that wasn't there before: concerning knowledge. Originally, the knowledge of good and evil, was knowledge of the one - destroyed by sin, but always being knowledge of the one. Then Christ lay His Life down, destroyed by sin, but still knowledge, that is, not only of the one, but of Him. Thus there are two forms of knowledge now. This is a miracle. Knowledge now gives us a choice.

What is fascinating about this, is that we can both know and be known - knowing does not limit us to what we know, nor does anticipating being known limit us the way coming to be condemned would condemn us. That is, we cannot be known only desiring to know sin. This comes to be a drawing, as Christ said "and I if I am lifted up, will draw all peoples to myself" (gospels, from memory), in other words all peoples are known by Christ and this being known they know. Thus coming to peoples with Christ, is something familiar to them and being familiar makes it also welcome. This is just one example of how a choice of knowledge can be welcome.

So then, because we sin and are liable to die, does Christ know us also to be dead? Yes, but His knowing us brings us to life! And if we know and have been brought to life, does not our sin come to life also? Yes, but we may repent! Thus we are purified over time, that we might do good, knowing enough and being ready to be known. God ever intercedes in the Holy Spirit that we know the right thing and are known the perfect way - thus the Spirit of God makes us strong and capable of doing whatever the Spirit leads us in - for this we can be grateful. God's Spirit can lead us even in knowledge, because God's Spirit weighs the difference between knowing and being known. This is the power of God.

What to pray for then?! Pray that your knowledge be effective on the one hand, and that being known empower spirit in you on the other hand. These two things will give the Holy Spirit room to work, with the knowledge that you have. Thank the Holy Spirit for His Power and wait to be quickened - if you have this patience, you have it within you to possess your soul. Men that possess their soul, endure. This is not a strange commandment, but one that draws on scripture to find meaning. I hope that it will empower you!

God bless.
 

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Originally, the knowledge of good and evil, was knowledge of the one - destroyed by sin,
What do you mean by this?
Please substantiate your claim that " originally people knew about someone destroyed by sin ".

Could you also explain what you mean by it?
 

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What do you mean by this?
Please substantiate your claim that " originally people knew about someone destroyed by sin ".

Could you also explain what you mean by it?

I just mean that originally men were convicted by God and saw no distinction between them and God, because there was knowledge but it was only the spirit of knowledge (not the actual thing). Now we have moved beyond the spirit of knowledge and the substantiation of knowledge to a choice of knowledge. The choice of knowledge is the choice in Christ Jesus - we can either know or be known.

I am just saying that knowledge changes.
 

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am just saying that knowledge changes.

People gain knowledge through education etc, but people also loose knowledge through it not being taught.
You can see this happening today, because Christianity is not taught people have a declining knowledge of Christianity.
Answers in genesis has an interesting article on lostcroman knowledge about cement.

What is interesting is that new atheists are examining the bases for their be,iefs and realising that wester society is built on Christianity and are starting to call themselves ' cultural Christians ' in an attempt to preserve society.