NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

[Zao is life]

What pray tell did Jesus do to the fruitless fig tree when he was hungry ?
What had happened to the barren fig tree when Jesus came back by ?
In the answers, by the Spirit of God, I rest my case!
Abide= bearing and being in continuing sustenance with/ of the vine & vintyer.
Withdrawing, fruitless, dead = withered & accursed.

Matthew 21:19
“And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.”

It's even in the very place where Jesus says to abide:

Verse 10: If you keep My commandments, you shall abide in My love.

"No, that's "works" says @Eternally Grateful . You don't need to do anything to bring your part in order to abide".

But Jesus tells us how to abide:

If you keep My commandments, you shall abide in My love.

This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. -- John 15:12

I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. As I have loved you, you should also love one another. By this all shall know that you are My disciples, if you have love toward one another. -- John 13:34-35

23 And this is His commandment, that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
24 And he who keeps His commandment dwells in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit which He gave to us. 1 John 3

"No, that's "works" says @Eternally Grateful . You don't need to do anything to bring your part in order to abide".

6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered. And they gather and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Verse 10: If you keep My commandments, you shall abide in My love.

24 And he who keeps His commandment dwells in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit which He gave to us. 1 John 3

"No, that's works!".​

 

[L.A.M.B.]

It's even in the very place where Jesus says to abide:

Verse 10: If you keep My commandments, you shall abide in My love.

"No, that's "works" says @Eternally Grateful . You don't need to do anything to bring your part in order to abide".

But Jesus tells us how to abide:

If you keep My commandments, you shall abide in My love.

23 And this is His commandment, that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
24 And he who keeps His commandment dwells in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit which He gave to us. 1 John 3

"No, that's "works" says @Eternally Grateful . You don't need to do anything to bring your part in order to abide".

6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered. And they gather and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Verse 10: If you keep My commandments, you shall abide in My love.

24 And he who keeps His commandment dwells in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit which He gave to us. 1 John 3

"No, that's works!".

Yes, well it's all about choosing the "sweet" over the bitter for some.
I have said one on ignore.
Lost confidences are hard to be recaptured, especially if said is in the same continuances of
thinking !
We cannot help those who are grounded in an questionable mixture of soil .

The plainly written word of God w/o the mixing in of men's or one's private interpretationd is good enough for me!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That's why Jesus said,

Verse 4: Unless it abides in the vine, the branch cannot bear fruit. Neither can you unless you abide in Me.

Verse 6: If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered. And they gather and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

What, in your opinion, did Jesus say will happen to the one who does not abide in Him?

Good day sir

I have answered your question so many times I have lost count

the passage is about bearing fruit, about receiving the resources to do the work of God, and about having the Joy of God in our lives.

A vine dresser tends to the vine,

The vine-dresser prunes the vine so the living part can produce more fruit, when it is not producing very well (vs 2)

If A vine is laying on the ground, it can be choked off, so the vine dresser lifts the vine up off the ground, and ties it off the ground (usually to another branch) so it can start to produce fruit again. (vs 2)

If the vine had dead/withered branches. the branches are cut off, so the rest of the vine can produce fruit and it does not die. (vs 6)

the branches that are cut off are thrown into a fire

It has NOTHING to do with anyone's eternal life

It has nothing to do with anyone keeping their salvation.

it has nothing to do with anyone losing salvation.

if you can not understand this, I can not help you. All I can do is pray for you.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It's even in the very place where Jesus says to abide:

Verse 10: If you keep My commandments, you shall abide in My love.

"No, that's "works" says @Eternally Grateful . You don't need to do anything to bring your part in order to abide".

But Jesus tells us how to abide:

If you keep My commandments, you shall abide in My love.

23 And this is His commandment, that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
24 And he who keeps His commandment dwells in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit which He gave to us. 1 John 3

"No, that's "works" says @Eternally Grateful . You don't need to do anything to bring your part in order to abide".

6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered. And they gather and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Verse 10: If you keep My commandments, you shall abide in My love.

24 And he who keeps His commandment dwells in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit which He gave to us. 1 John 3

"No, that's works!".

it is works if you DO IT to STAY SAVED.

Next!!!!

I keep his commands BECAUSE I am born again, made a new creature, attached to the vine.

not in order to keep it. or stay attached.

I am sorry you do not understand the difference between a gift and a reward

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes, well it's all about choosing the "sweet" over the bitter for some.
I have said one on ignore.
Lost confidences are hard to be recaptured, especially if said is in the same continuances of
thinking !
We cannot help those who are grounded in an questionable mixture of soil .

The plainly written word of God w/o the mixing in of men's or one's private interpretationd is good enough for me!

You can ignore me all you want. (actually thank you. It is good that I make you think so much you have to ignore me)

Don;t be a hypocrite and attack me for doing something you yourself are doing..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

We weren't Jesus' enemy. How silly.
God wrote the names of all who would come to him,through Jesus, in the Lambs Book of Life before the foundation,creation,of the world.

I was dead in tresspasses and sin. I was his enemy..

Hope all you like. Jesus=God, tells us, no one comes to him unless he calls them. Those named in his book.

he calls everyone. everyone's name is in the book, it is blotted out if you die without receiving him (many are called few are chosen)

The words of God must harmonize with the full narrative of God and Salvation. All of it.

Mans influence and dabbling with Scripture is a matter of historic record. Man's politics also played a part in what was disseminated among the population centuries after Christ.

Jesus,God,is the same yesterday,today,and forever. He does not change.

Love your enemy?

Yes, Love your enemy, How else are we supposed to bring them to Christ?

OK. Do you love Satan?

God said,thou shalt not steal.

It is written in the New Testament we are not to resist an evil person.Gice a thief more than what they seek initially.

The scriptures must harmonize.

It does harmonize

 

[BlessedPeace]

I was dead in tresspasses and sin. I was his enemy..

As you wish .

he calls everyone. everyone's name is in the book, it is blotted out if you die without receiving him (many are called few are chosen)

No he doesn't. And there are more than one book. If a name can be blotted from TL L that makes God's foreknowledge errant.

Yes, Love your enemy, How else are we supposed to bring them to Christ?

I don't,you don't,bring anyone to Christ. God calls whom he will.With or without us.

Christ like=God didn't love his enemies.
But when Rome inserts that,along with slaves commanded to obey their masters, it is contrary to harmony.

It does harmonize

No.

 

[Timtofly]

No he doesn't. And there are more than one book. If a name can be blotted from TL L that makes God's foreknowledge errant.

No it does not. God knows who will and who will not be saved. That has nothing to do with giving every soul a chance at rejecting God. Names will not be removed for those in sheol until the GWT judgment. That is when God declares He never knew them. So His foreknowledge did not fail. Neither did God's longsuffering. When they stand before God, they will have no excuses to reject God. If they still reject, that is when they are removed from the Lamb's book of life.

Those who take the mark do so directly with God as He removes them from the Lamb's book of life. Once again, no excuses, but outright rejection. But they were not born rejecting God. You claim God was not capable of redeeming some, so He did not redeem them. You base that on the individual's choice to be unredeemable and God knew He could not redeem them, so He did not.

 

[BlessedPeace]

No it does not. God knows who will and who will not be saved. That has nothing to do with giving every soul a chance at rejecting God. Names will not be removed for those in sheol until the GWT judgment. That is when God declares He never knew them. So His foreknowledge did not fail. Neither did God's longsuffering. When they stand before God, they will have no excuses to reject God. If they still reject, that is when they are removed from the Lamb's book of life.

Those who take the mark do so directly with God as He removes them from the Lamb's book of life. Once again, no excuses, but outright rejection. But they were not born rejecting God. You claim God was not capable of redeeming some, so He did not redeem them. You base that on the individual's choice to be unredeemable and God knew He could not redeem them, so He did not.

Revelation 3:5. The one who overcomes is that which lives through this life in Christ.

All knowing God penned those names before the world or humans.

 

[Timtofly]

Revelation 3:5. The one who overcomes is that which lives through this life in Christ.

All knowing God penned those names before the world or humans.

Every human ever conceived is still penned in the Lamb's Book of Life. No one has been blotted out yet. The Book is still sealed. The Book can not be edited, written to, nor names be removed until after the Second Coming.

The elect of God is everyone. God forknew all who would be conceived. They are all covered by the blood of the Lamb slain. They all have God's vote.

That does not mean all will accept. That does not mean every one will eventually be saved. But redemption is unlimited. The redeemed are those who know they are redeemed.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Every human ever conceived is still penned in the Lamb's Book of Life. No one has been blotted out yet. The Book is still sealed. The Book can not be edited, written to, nor names be removed until after the Second Coming.

The elect of God is everyone. God forknew all who would be conceived. They are all covered by the blood of the Lamb slain. They all have God's vote.

That does not mean all will accept. That does not mean every one will eventually be saved. But redemption is unlimited. The redeemed are those who know they are redeemed.

OK. :)

 

[Zao is life]

I keep his commands BECAUSE I am born again, made a new creature, attached to the vine.

I'm happy about that. Praise Jesus. That's the only reason why anyone in Christ is even able to keep His commandment.

If the vine had dead/withered branches. the branches are cut off, so the rest of the vine can produce fruit and it does not die. (vs 6)

the branches that are cut off are thrown into a fire

How did the branches that were cast off become joined to the Vine in the first place before they died/withered?

Were the branches that died/withered always dead? Or were the branches that were dead/withered never joined to the Vine?

And if you ever draw back (I'm not saying you will, but if you ever do) you will be the branch that chose not to abide, and will die.

If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered. And they gather and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

No branch that wasn't in the vine and be cast out.

Jesus' words are so plain and easy to understand. He is telling you there is no such thing as "once saved, always saved". But some like you, who change His words, have made up your own meaning.

Anyway, this thread was not about the above. You chose to change the topic of the thread by bringing the subject up. So lets get back to topic:

And Abram fell on his face. And God talked with him, saying, As for Me, behold! My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many (Gentiles) nations. Neither shall your name any more be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham. For I have made you a father of many (Gentiles) nations. And I will make you exceedingly fruitful, greatly so, and I will make (Gentiles) nations of you, and kings shall come out of you. -- Genesis 17:4-6

Please answer these questions:-

1.. What did God promise Abraham in Genesis 17:4-6, i.e the very first (original) promise God made to Abraham?

2. How, in your opinion, are Paul's words in the verses below linked to God's first (original) promise to Abraham in Genesis 17:4-6?

Therefore it is of faith so that it might be according to grace; for the promise to be made sure to all the seed, not only to that which is of the Law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all (as it has been written, "I have made you a father of many nations") --before God, whom he believed, who makes the dead live, and calls the things which do not exist as though they do exist. For he who beyond hope believed on hope for him to become the father of many nations (according to that which was spoken, "So your seed shall be"). -- Romans 4:16-18

And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise. -- Galatians 3:29

3. Was Abraham a Jew?
4. Was his son Isaac a Jew?
5. Was Abraham's grandson Jacob|Israel a Jew?
6. Were all 12 of Jacob|Israel's sons Jewish?
7. Is Jacob|Israel Jewish?
8. Was God's original promise which was inherited by Abraham, Isaac and Jacob|Israel only made to one of Jacob|Israel's sons, namely, Judah (the Jews)?

9. Since Jesus was born a Jew, how do you think God's promise to Abraham came about through Israel?

10. Who is the seed the promise pertains to, according to Paul in Galatians 3:16?

11. Through whom are all the nations of the earth blessed? Jesus? Or "all the Jews"?​

 

[BlessedPeace]

And if you ever draw back (I'm not saying you will, but if you ever do) you will be the branch that chose not to abide, and will die.

If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered. And they gather and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

No branch that wasn't in the vine and be cast out.

Jesus' words are so plain and easy to understand. He is telling you there is no such thing as "once saved, always saved". But some like you, who change His words, have made up your own meaning.

Anyway, this thread was not about the above. You chose to change the topic of the thread by bringing the subject up. So lets get back to topic:

And Abram fell on his face. And God talked with him, saying, As for Me, behold! My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many (Gentiles) nations. Neither shall your name any more be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham. For I have made you a father of many (Gentiles) nations. And I will make you exceedingly fruitful, greatly so, and I will make (Gentiles) nations of you, and kings shall come out of you. -- Genesis 17:4-6

Please answer these questions:-

1.. What did God promise Abraham in Genesis 17:4-6, i.e the very first (original) promise God made to Abraham?

2. How, in your opinion, are Paul's words in the verses below linked to God's first (original) promise to Abraham in Genesis 17:4-6?

Therefore it is of faith so that it might be according to grace; for the promise to be made sure to all the seed, not only to that which is of the Law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all (as it has been written, "I have made you a father of many nations") --before God, whom he believed, who makes the dead live, and calls the things which do not exist as though they do exist. For he who beyond hope believed on hope for him to become the father of many nations (according to that which was spoken, "So your seed shall be"). -- Romans 4:16-18

And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise. -- Galatians 3:29

3. Was Abraham a Jew?
4. Was his son Isaac a Jew?
5. Was Abraham's grandson Jacob|Israel a Jew?
6. Were all 12 of Jacob|Israel's sons Jewish?
7. Is Jacob|Israel Jewish?
8. Was God's original promise which was inherited by Abraham, Isaac and Jacob|Israel only made to one of Jacob|Israel's sons, namely, Judah (the Jews)?

9. Since Jesus was born a Jew, how do you think God's promise to Abraham came about through Israel?

10. Who is the seed the promise pertains to, according to Paul in Galatians 3:16?

11. Through whom are all the nations of the earth blessed? Jesus? Or "all the Jews"?​

Adding Gentiles, meaning non-Jews,to God's word where it does not exist in those verses is sin.

For those opposed to white Christian Identity interpolation of God's word:

Lesson 22: The Roots of the Nations (Genesis 10:1-32) | Bible.org

Expository study of Genesis: Though people are quick to forget God and the oneness of the human race, God wants all people to hear of His one means of salvation.

bible.org

 

[L.A.M.B.]

From my studies, Abram came into being through the son of Noah after the flood. A descendant of Shem.

There was no such ethnicity as Jews. Abram is noted in Gen.11 thru to Gen 25.

He took a wife named Sarai whom was barren. God promised to make many nations of him. His first born thru Hagar an Egyptian handmade bore his first son, Ishmael; he however was NOT the son of promise.

In Gen. 12, God told Abram to get out of the land of his fathers and go over to the other side. He lived in the land of Ur of the Chaldeans, know as Semites, in Mesopotamia.

In General 15, God told Abram he would give him a land;
from the river of Egypt unto
the great river, the river
Euphrates: After 10 yrs there Sarai gave him Hagar to wife. When he was 86 he had Ishmael and God said he would also birth many nations.

When Abram was 99, reaffirming his promise to make of him many nations, changing his name to Abraham; In Genesis 14:13, Abraham is described as Avram Ha-Ivri which translates literally as "Abram the Hebrew.". He is dubbed as the first called an Hebrew and is deemed the father of Judaism.
They are now known as well as then as Israelites, defined as the descendants of Jacob. Genesis 17 (The promise)
6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

The exploits of Abraham can be read in the chapters I first noted, as well as his many sons and 2nd wife.
The term "Jews" came about as far as history after the conquest of the Kingdom of Israel by the Assyrians in 722 B.C.E. only the Kingdom of Judah survived; it meant "member of the tribe Judah", later also "member of the Kingdom of Judah".

That is the extent of my studies and research on the origin of the term Hebrew, Jews, Semites and lastly today's Israelites.

 

[Zao is life]

From my studies, Abram came into being through the son of Noah after the flood. A descendant of Shem.

There was no such ethnicity as Jews. Abram is noted in Gen.11 thru to Gen 25.

He took a wife named Sarai whom was barren. God promised to make many nations of him. His first born thru Hagar an Egyptian handmade bore his first son, Ishmael; he however was NOT the son of promise.

In Gen. 12, God told Abram to get out of the land of his fathers and go over to the other side. He lived in the land of Ur of the Chaldeans, know as Semites, in Mesopotamia.

In General 15, God told Abram he would give him a land;
from the river of Egypt unto
the great river, the river
Euphrates: After 10 yrs there Sarai gave him Hagar to wife. When he was 86 he had Ishmael and God said he would also birth many nations.

When Abram was 99, reaffirming his promise to make of him many nations, changing his name to Abraham; In Genesis 14:13, Abraham is described as Avram Ha-Ivri which translates literally as "Abram the Hebrew.". He is dubbed as the first called an Hebrew and is deemed the father of Judaism.

I disagree about Abraham being the father of Judaism (the religion). Maybe the Jewish influence in the encyopedias of Judaism, the world, and even some Christian encyclopedias describe him thus - but Judaism is based on a corruption of the Bible which was entrenched in the human tradition of the scribes and Pharisees. It's the basis of the Judaic Talmud, which is the basis of Judaism, which Jesus rejected, saying that it (that which is now called "Judaism") nullified the scriptures, the Word of God.

So Abraham is not "the father of Judaism" because Judaism refers to a religion.

Abraham is the father of the Jews who are Christians, in Jesus - and the true Christians among them reject Judaism, which is based on the oral law and human traditions, which rejects Christ, and which Jesus rejects.

Most Jews equate Jews and "being Jewish" with Judaism, which is another reason why the majority of Jews reject Christ, but being Jewish and following Judaism does not mean Abraham is the father of Judaism (the religion). He is not.​

They are now known as well as then as Israelites, defined as the descendants of Jacob. Genesis 17 (The promise)
6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

The exploits of Abraham can be read in the chapters I first noted, as well as his many sons and 2nd wife.
The term "Jews" came about as far as history after the conquest of the Kingdom of Israel by the Assyrians in 722 B.C.E. only the Kingdom of Judah survived; it meant "member of the tribe Judah", later also "member of the Kingdom of Judah".

That is the extent of my studies and research on the origin of the term Hebrew, Jews, Semites and lastly today's Israelites.

@L.A.M.B. I edited this to make it clearer:

Abraham's natural descendants were chosen because, through Mary, the seed of Abraham (Christ - through whom all the nations of the earth are blessed), is a natural descendant of Abraham according to the flesh. But Israel's natural descendants are not all Jews. The majority of Abraham's natural descendants were broken off from Israel and completely ceased being a nation before God in 725 B.C, and IF they reject Christ even the Jewish natural descendants of Abraham are broken off from Abraham|Isaac|Jacob|Israel, because Abraham and Isaac and Jacob|Israel is in Christ through the same faith in the Word of God that Abraham had.​

 

[L.A.M.B.]

In Christ there is neither Jew nor any other ethnicity; we are all one in Christ.
It is imperative we live by faith as Abraham did and trust God.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

As you wish .

No he doesn't. And there are more than one book. If a name can be blotted from TL L that makes God's foreknowledge errant.

I don't,you don't,bring anyone to Christ. God calls whom he will.With or without us.

Christ like=God didn't love his enemies.
But when Rome inserts that,along with slaves commanded to obey their masters, it is contrary to harmony.

No.

not going to argue.

i will go with what I read in scripture.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I'm happy about that. Praise Jesus. That's the only reason why anyone in Christ is even able to keep His commandment.

How did the branches that were cast off become joined to the Vine in the first place before they died/withered?

Were the branches that died/withered always dead? Or were the branches that were dead/withered never joined to the Vine?

And if you ever draw back (I'm not saying you will, but if you ever do) you will be the branch that chose not to abide, and will die.

If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered. And they gather and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

No branch that wasn't in the vine and be cast out.

Jesus' words are so plain and easy to understand. He is telling you there is no such thing as "once saved, always saved". But some like you, who change His words, have made up your own meaning.

Anyway, this thread was not about the above. You chose to change the topic of the thread by bringing the subject up. So lets get back to topic:
​

once again, Have you ever tended or read about grapevines

that is the picture Jesus is using, which everyone understood.

I will respond to the rest when I have more time..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Anyway, this thread was not about the above. You chose to change the topic of the thread by bringing the subject up. So lets get back to topic:

And Abram fell on his face. And God talked with him, saying, As for Me, behold! My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many (Gentiles) nations. Neither shall your name any more be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham. For I have made you a father of many (Gentiles) nations. And I will make you exceedingly fruitful, greatly so, and I will make (Gentiles) nations of you, and kings shall come out of you. -- Genesis 17:4-6

Please answer these questions:-

1.. What did God promise Abraham in Genesis 17:4-6, i.e the very first (original) promise God made to Abraham?​

4 “As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations.

He had many sons, 2 Nations we know of are Edom and Israel. I Know there are many more

5 No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many nations.

See above I do not think we know the number of nations Abraham fathered.

6 I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you.

Again, See above

Why did you leave vs 7 - 8 out?

7 And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. 8 8 Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in[f] which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”

Was this not part of the covenant also? What nation (out of the many) does this belong to?

2. How, in your opinion, are Paul's words in the verses below linked to God's first (original) promise to Abraham in Genesis 17:4-6?

Therefore it is of faith so that it might be according to grace; for the promise to be made sure to all the seed, not only to that which is of the Law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all (as it has been written, "I have made you a father of many nations") --before God, whom he believed, who makes the dead live, and calls the things which do not exist as though they do exist. For he who beyond hope believed on hope for him to become the father of many nations (according to that which was spoken, "So your seed shall be"). -- Romans 4:16-18​

Gen 15: 6 And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness.

This is abrahams faith that saved him.. Not sure why your going to Gen 17...

And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise. -- Galatians 3:29​

yes, as the faith of Abraham in Gen 15.. see above

3. Was Abraham a Jew?
4. Was his son Isaac a Jew?
5. Was Abraham's grandson Jacob|Israel a Jew?
6. Were all 12 of Jacob|Israel's sons Jewish?
7. Is Jacob|Israel Jewish?​

No. And I have no idea what your asking here.

8. Was God's original promise which was inherited by Abraham, Isaac and Jacob|Israel only made to one of Jacob|Israel's sons, namely, Judah (the Jews)?

9. Since Jesus was born a Jew, how do you think God's promise to Abraham came about through Israel?​

Jesus was born a son of David, who was a son of Judah, who was a son of Israel, who was a son of Isaac, who was a son of Abraham.

He was called a jew because he was born in a time when all who were from Israel were called Jews..

Same people.

How did Gods promise come through Israel?

Again you have to go back to genesis. except not chapter 17 or chapter 15.

Gen 12:
12 Now the Lord had said to Abram:

“Get out of your country,
From your family
And from your father’s house,
To a land that I will show you.
2 I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

notice here, he will make a great nation. Through Jacob, also called Isreal. Later split into Israel/Judah, and by the time of Christ, they were called jews.

In Abraham (literally his seed) which is Christ. shall all the nations of the world be blessed.

The saved people adopted into Gods family through the same faith abraham had are part of this promise

10. Who is the seed the promise pertains to, according to Paul in Galatians 3:16?​

Christ He said such in Vs 16, And to your seed, which is Christ

11. Through whom are all the nations of the earth blessed? Jesus? Or "all the Jews"?​

Through Abraham, Issac Jacob/Isreal. and through his seed which is Christ.

Gen 12.

I have literally no idea what your trying to get at. You mentioned Gen 17. But most of your post has nothing to do with Gen 17. What are you trying to get at?

 

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I disagree about Abraham being the father of Judaism (the religion). Maybe the Jewish influence in the encyopedias of Judaism, the world, and even some Christian encyclopedias describe him thus - but Judaism is based on a corruption of the Bible which was entrenched in the human tradition of the scribes and Pharisees. It's the basis of the Judaic Talmud, which is the basis of Judaism, which Jesus rejected, saying that it (that which is now called "Judaism") nullified the scriptures, the Word of God.

So Abraham is not "the father of Judaism" because Judaism refers to a religion.

Abraham is the father of the Jews who are Christians, in Jesus - and the true Christians among them reject Judaism, which is based on the oral law and human traditions, which rejects Christ, and which Jesus rejects.

Most Jews equate Jews and "being Jewish" with Judaism, which is another reason why the majority of Jews reject Christ, but being Jewish and following Judaism does not mean Abraham is the father of Judaism (the religion). He is not.

@L.A.M.B. I edited this to make it clearer:

Abraham's natural descendants were chosen because, through Mary, the seed of Abraham (Christ - through whom all the nations of the earth are blessed), is a natural descendant of Abraham according to the flesh. But Israel's natural descendants are not all Jews. The majority of Abraham's natural descendants were broken off from Israel and completely ceased being a nation before God in 725 B.C, and IF they reject Christ even the Jewish natural descendants of Abraham are broken off from Abraham|Isaac|Jacob|Israel, because Abraham and Isaac and Jacob|Israel is in Christ through the same faith in the Word of God that Abraham had.​

This is replacement theology and is in error

Abrahams descendents are anyone who comes to Christ. they are not called Jews.. I am not a jew. I am not Israel. I am a Gentile child of Abraham, through Christ.