MYSTERY, BABYLON... IS NOT THE CHURCH OF ROME

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Davy

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Just as the Pharisees and the Scribes in John 2:19-21, thought the Lord was talking about the literal buildings of the temple being destroyed when Christ told them to destroy it and in three days He will raise it up as a sign. They have no clues on what Christ talked about. It is the same thing with what you thought about Jersualem. Selah!

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Ha, ha... these Amill lovers of men's doctrines are so... FUNNY!

They will throw any kind of FALSE LABEL from men's seminary traditions at me when they don't even know what those labels actually are about!

I'm not a Futurist like they try to pin on me. I don't believe in the false Pre-trib Rapture theory that is from men and is NOT written in God's Word. And anyone who stays... in God's Word 'as written' would know that doctrine is not written.

God's Word declares Jesus' future return will be Post-trib, meaning AFTER the "great tribulation" at the end of this world! And that is the ONLY time when He will gather His 'faithful' Church. And notice I said His 'faithful'... Church, meaning those who KEEP His Word instead of floating along like a piece of garbage down river by instead keeping the false doctrines of men.

Know this Faithful Brethren in Christ:
Any time you present the actual Word of God 'as written' in presence of those types, they feel it messes with their 'rice bowl' of traditions they USE to MAKE MONEY off of unsuspecting Church congregations who don't really know what God's Word says 'as written'. God's written Word just is not that POPULAR today, and especially not with those charlatans whom God did not call that treat preaching like a business!
 

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Ha, ha... these Amill lovers of men's doctrines are so... FUNNY!

They will throw any kind of FALSE LABEL from men's seminary traditions at me when they don't even know what those labels actually are about!

I'm not a Futurist like they try to pin on me. I don't believe in the false Pre-trib Rapture theory that is from men and is NOT written in God's Word. And anyone who stays... in God's Word 'as written' would know that doctrine is not written.

God's Word declares Jesus' future return will be Post-trib, meaning AFTER the "great tribulation" at the end of this world! And that is the ONLY time when He will gather His 'faithful' Church. And notice I said His 'faithful'... Church, meaning those who KEEP His Word instead of floating along like a piece of garbage down river by instead keeping the false doctrines of men.

Know this Faithful Brethren in Christ:
Any time you present the actual Word of God 'as written' in presence of those types, they feel it messes with their 'rice bowl' of traditions they USE to MAKE MONEY off of unsuspecting Church congregations who don't really know what God's Word says 'as written'. God's written Word just is not that POPULAR today, and especially not with those charlatans whom God did not call that treat preaching like a business!

--Zip--

I will allow God to judge your testimony.

Good day!
 

Davy

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--Zip--

I will allow God to judge your testimony.

Good day!

You don't have the authority from GOD to allow Him to judge anything.

Anyone who butchers God's Word away from from it 'as written' has no claims on judgments by God, so you only show your AUDACITY in thinking to speak FOR HIM!
 

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You don't have the authority from GOD to allow Him to judge anything.

Anyone who butchers God's Word away from from it 'as written' has no claims on judgments by God, so you only show your AUDACITY in thinking to speak FOR HIM!

False assumption.

I know what you are teaching falsely and that's all I need to know. If you are open for correction, I witness, if not, I leave it in the hands of God. That is what I mean by saying often, "The Lord Judges and I am comfortable with that."

I can call your doctrine a false gospel because it is! False teachings of the kingdom are exactly that. The same as false teachings, the Scribes and Pharisees taught. The false teachings about Russia and building temporary houses in Jerusalem and setting up temporal kingdoms with new square shaped building coming down from heaven to be seated on Earth, etc. It doesn't matter if the people "seem" like good people, or very sincere people, or kind loving people. What matters is do they have the Spirit of Truth. For without it, they simply cannot be of God. With it, they are drawn to God's Word, not offended by it like the tone of your posts show.
 

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Ha, ha... these Amill lovers of men's doctrines are so... FUNNY!

They will throw any kind of FALSE LABEL from men's seminary traditions at me when they don't even know what those labels actually are about!

I'm not a Futurist like they try to pin on me.
Ha ha. These Futurists like Davy try to claim that they are not Futurists.

I don't believe in the false Pre-trib Rapture theory that is from men and is NOT written in God's Word.
Ha ha. You don't have to believe in the false pre-trib rapture theory to be a futurist. You are confusing being a futurist with being a dispensationalist. You are a different kind of futurist than them.
 

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Nope! Those who use their common sense with reading the Rev.11:8 verse well KNOW it is pointing to JERUSALEM as the "great city", simply because JERUSALEM is where Lord Jesus Christ was crucified.

Rev 11:8
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt,
where also our Lord was crucified.
KJV

That's JERUSALEM as the "great city"! Easy Peasy!
I thought you claim to be someone who interprets scripture "as written"? Do you accept the scriptures which say that Jesus was not crucified in Jerusalem as written?

Hebrews 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

John 19:20 This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.

Interpreting "that great city" Babylon to be a literal earthly city is like interpreting it to be a literal woman. It is described as both a woman and a great city, but it is neither in reality. Those are symbols. Babylon is a spiritual entity and is the spiritual opposite of the heavenly new Jerusalem.
 

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I do not follow men's doctrine of Futurism, nor Preterism, nor Full-Preterism, nor Historicism. I believe God's Word about a Post-tribulational coming by Christ to gather His Church.

I follow God's Word 'as written'. Would you like to try again, and the next time actually stick with what God's Word says as written? I don't have time to debate over men's seminary theory categories just to try to show how smart I am.
State you case and I'll reply.
 

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Daniel 7 is the word of God delivered to us by Daniel the prophet of God.
Daniel was not a Jesuit priest

It is God telling the future through Daniel.
Obviously, you don’t know the difference between deliver and interpret. Daniel delivered the prophecy the little horn rises out of the fourth beast. Even Francisco Ribera rightly interpreted the fourth beast as the ancient Roman Empire but then he twisted the prophecy to mean the little horn rises in our future, not as it should, at the end of the Roman Empire. Martin Luther was correct; the little horn rises out of the ancient Roman Empire as the papacy.
 

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Obviously, you don’t know the difference between deliver and interpret. Daniel delivered the prophecy the little horn rises out of the fourth beast. Even Francisco Ribera rightly interpreted the fourth beast as the ancient Roman Empire but then he twisted the prophecy to mean the little horn rises in our future, not as it should, at the end of the Roman Empire. Martin Luther was correct; the little horn rises out of the ancient Roman Empire as the papacy.
Rome is not the forth kingdom.
Even today the false prophet supports the little horn.
Prophecy being fulfilled before your very face but because of your faith in Francisco Ribera ,you fail to see the truth.
No greater friend does the beast have than the king of the north.



I bet when the king of the north moved the Tabernacles of his palace to Jerusalem ,you cheered .
 

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Obviously, you don’t know the difference between deliver and interpret. Daniel delivered the prophecy the little horn rises out of the fourth beast. Even Francisco Ribera rightly interpreted the fourth beast as the ancient Roman Empire but then he twisted the prophecy to mean the little horn rises in our future, not as it should, at the end of the Roman Empire. Martin Luther was correct; the little horn rises out of the ancient Roman Empire as the papacy.
Daniel 8
23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.



This is where his power comes from.