Cristo Rei
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Do accept there is no pandemic in Australia???
If not then I'm just wasting my time here
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Do accept there is no pandemic in Australia???
If not then I'm just wasting my time here
That is how it is.
Some people may want to make it a last minute thing that only really started with Covid-19 and the 2020 Presidential election. Hopefully not too many people really believe that!
When I came home from my 12 months in Viet Nam in August of 1965 it just was trying penetrate my naivety. Freedom and captivity... but not too successfully yet. It started long before 1965. Eventually all of listening to and talking to people over the years, reading the Bible from 1976, talking to God.. but I was still silent for a long time as it was all so blurry and run together. Beginning in 2002, when we were losing everything material due to our foolishness God really started to fill in the gaps in my vision of Him and my vision of the world of men including the United States which I loved. It is a solid freight train movement that only God could stop. But... people don't want God at all or badly enough to sincerely turn to Him.
Lean on Him!
Help us dear Lord!
It might not be out of control there. I can believe that...but that's your government...not mine.
But you also got shipping to consider. Your country doesn't export groceries you import them as well as other supplies.
Boats have crews...and dockworkers. (Just saying)
But it can get out of control in a hurry.
If I was your government I would just close the borders except for NZ and call it a day.
Cristo Rei
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Well thats what im saying John... There is no epidemic here in Australia. There is no worldwide pandemic...
And for the tens of millions that are becoming unemployed, homeless, etc... Bad luck for us, right...
Downplaying the pandemic will help stop forced experimental vaccines. Thats what it all boils down to for me...
Exaggerating the pandemic will lead to forced experimental vaccines.
WaterSong
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Cristo Rei
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I don't understand how raising the minimum wage in the USA will give people here jobs...
I was talking about all the industries that are deemed "non-essential" and are forced to shut down cos of lockdowns.
And all those who work in them such as the +40 million who lost their jobs in the USA due to lockdowns...
I thought u were close to retirement age John, how old are you?
Lots of great questions...I'll start a thread so it doesn't get lost.
24 Dead And 137 Infected In Nursing Home, After COVID-19 Vaccination – Previously, They Had ZERO Deaths From Covid
HAFJanuary 11, 2021
by Adam Dick
Things seem to be working backwards at The Commons on St. Anthony nursing home in Auburn, New York. Vaccinating people is supposed to reduce or end coronavirus deaths. Right?
But, at The Commons, such deaths are reported to have occurred only after residents began receiving coronavirus vaccinations.
The Commons on St. Anthony nursing home in Auburn, New York.
James T. Mulder wrote Saturday at syracuse.com that until December 29 there had been no coronavirus deaths at The Commons.
December 29, when deaths of residents with coronavirus began occurring at The Commons, is also, Mulder’s article discloses, seven days days after the nursing home began giving coronavirus vaccinations to residents, with 80 percent of residents so far having been vaccinated.
Over a period of less than two weeks since December 29, Mulder relates that 24 coronavirus-infected residents at the 300-bed nursing home have died.
Is the timing just a strange coincidence?
Read Mulder’s article here.
This is the penultimate paragraph of Mulder’s article, where vaccinations at The Commons is mentioned:
“The nursing home began vaccinating residents Dec. 22. So far 193 residents, or 80%, and 113 employees, or less than half the staff, have been vaccinated. The nursing home plans to do more vaccinations Jan. 12.”
--------------this is only one nursing home, what about the rest of the nursing homes?.....
by Adam Dick
Things seem to be working backwards at The Commons on St. Anthony nursing home in Auburn, New York. Vaccinating people is supposed to reduce or end coronavirus deaths. Right?
But, at The Commons, such deaths are reported to have occurred only after residents began receiving coronavirus vaccinations.
The Commons on St. Anthony nursing home in Auburn, New York.
James T. Mulder wrote Saturday at syracuse.com that until December 29 there had been no coronavirus deaths at The Commons.
December 29, when deaths of residents with coronavirus began occurring at The Commons, is also, Mulder’s article discloses, seven days days after the nursing home began giving coronavirus vaccinations to residents, with 80 percent of residents so far having been vaccinated.
Over a period of less than two weeks since December 29, Mulder relates that 24 coronavirus-infected residents at the 300-bed nursing home have died.
Is the timing just a strange coincidence?
Read Mulder’s article here.
This is the penultimate paragraph of Mulder’s article, where vaccinations at The Commons is mentioned:
“The nursing home began vaccinating residents Dec. 22. So far 193 residents, or 80%, and 113 employees, or less than half the staff, have been vaccinated. The nursing home plans to do more vaccinations Jan. 12.”
--------------this is only one nursing home, what about the rest of the nursing homes?.....
I did not see this @amadeus until now... In light of these last two days... I have decided to stay away from any political statements.. I do so appreciate you having stuck up for me. Blessings to you.
YEP... us CANADIANS are all being held hostage and only get to eat porridge... once a day!!!!
Someone please tell Auntie Jane that she can have my porcelain doll collection.
@WaterSong ... Please send Jello.
Someone please tell Auntie Jane that she can have my porcelain doll collection.
@WaterSong ... Please send Jello.
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Expert Virologist: COVID-19 Pandemic Is ‘The Greatest Hoax Ever Perpretrated’ And Face Masks, Social Distancing And Lockdowns ‘Should All Stop Tomorrow’
HAFJanuary 11, 2021
by Arsenio Toledo
An expert virologist, pathologist and former chairman of a prominent medical association in Canada told officials in the province of Alberta that the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic is a great hoax.
This is why policies and mandates regarding face masks, social distancing and destructive economic lockdowns “should all stop tomorrow.”
On Nov. 13, city councilors in Alberta’s provincial capital of Edmonton met to discuss the possibility of extending the city’s mask mandate for public places to the end of the year.
Listeners of the meeting were allowed to phone in to discuss their support or opposition to the mandate. One of the people who called in was Dr. Roger Hodkinson.
Hodkinson introduced himself as a former chairman of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada’s Examination Committee in Pathology and the CEO of Western Medical Assessments, a biotechnology company that manufactures COVID-19 tests and which has offices in Edmonton and North Carolina.
Hodkinson is also a certified general pathologist, a fellow in the College of American Pathologists and is recognized by the Court of Queen’s Bench in Alberta as an expert in pathology.
“There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians,” said Hodkinson, who made it very clear he was against mask mandates and any attempt to continue or strengthen the lockdowns.
Hodkinson continued by calling the coronavirus pandemic “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.”
He added that he firmly believes that COVID-19 was “just another bad flu.”
“Positive test results do not, underlined in neon, mean a clinical infection,” he added, stating that many people who have COVID-19 but are asymptomatic should stop “driving public hysteria” around the virus because it is leading to more lives being ruined by mask mandates and economic lockdowns.
Watch this special Brighteon Conversations episode with Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, as he interviews Dr. Paul Cottrell regarding the lies being propagated regarding the coronavirus vaccines, PCR tests and more.
Hodkinson Argues Against Masks And Lockdowns
Hodkinson went on to talk about how he believes face masks do not work in the way people think they do, saying that policies that promote or require the use of paper or fabric masks “are simply virtue signaling.”
He continued by saying that face masks are “utterly useless,” that “there is no evidence base for their effectiveness whatsoever” and that any attempts to push mask mandates are “utterly ridiculous.”
“They’re not even worn effectively most of the time. It’s utterly ridiculous. Seeing these unfortunate, uneducated people – I’m not saying that in a pejorative sense – seeing these people walking around like lemming obeying without any knowledge base to put the mask on their face.”
Hodkinson also lambasted social distancing protocols, calling them as useless as face masks because the coronavirus is spread “by aerosols which travel 30 meters or so before landing.”
Social distancing rules in Alberta recommend that people stay at least two meters away from each other.
There is a lot of evidence to support Hodkinson’s claims against masks and social distancing.
A major Danish study has found that face masks do not provide “clear protection” to the wearer from being infected by COVID-19.
This study, which involved around 6,000 participants, found that the difference in infection rates between people who wore masks regularly and people who didn’t is “not big enough to conclude with certainty a benefit of using face masks with regard to protecting oneself from infection.”
Another study concluded that while so-called “non-pharmaceutical interventions” like social distancing, lockdowns and face masks may help slow down the spread of COVID-19, it will most likely result in a massive surge of flu cases next winter.
Hodkinson continued by saying that nothing can really be done to stop the spread of the coronavirus, and that all people can really do is to protect those most vulnerable and most likely to succumb to the disease, such as the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.
The expert virologist noted that only “one in 300,000” under 65 have died from the coronavirus in Alberta. Based on these statistics, it is “outrageous” for Alberta – and the rest of Canada, for that matter – to lock down their entire economies, especially for a disease that he believes is “just another bad flu” for younger demographics.
“It’s politics playing medicine, and that’s a very dangerous game,” concludes Hodkinson. “I’m absolutely outraged that this has reached this level. It should all stop tomorrow.”
Medical Groups In Canada Strongly Criticize Hodkinson
Other prominent groups and individuals in the medical field have since come out against Hodkinson for his statements.
The Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada claimed that Hodkinson was never a chairman. They did not deny that he has been a certified general pathologist since 1976.
Their statement went on to say that they believe COVID-19 is “a serious threat to the health of Canadians,” and that the Royal College supports all health recommendations and orders given to the public by the Public Health Agency of Canada, including mask mandates, social distancing regulations and economically restrictive lockdowns.
The Alberta Medical Association also came out against Hodkinson.
They released a statement on social media that laboratory physicians in Alberta endorse “the use of masks, hand washing and physical distancing along with all other public health measures to prevent the spread of COVID-19.”
The Associated Press has attempted to reach out to Hodkinson but has not received a response.
by Arsenio Toledo
An expert virologist, pathologist and former chairman of a prominent medical association in Canada told officials in the province of Alberta that the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic is a great hoax.
This is why policies and mandates regarding face masks, social distancing and destructive economic lockdowns “should all stop tomorrow.”
On Nov. 13, city councilors in Alberta’s provincial capital of Edmonton met to discuss the possibility of extending the city’s mask mandate for public places to the end of the year.
Listeners of the meeting were allowed to phone in to discuss their support or opposition to the mandate. One of the people who called in was Dr. Roger Hodkinson.
Hodkinson introduced himself as a former chairman of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada’s Examination Committee in Pathology and the CEO of Western Medical Assessments, a biotechnology company that manufactures COVID-19 tests and which has offices in Edmonton and North Carolina.
Hodkinson is also a certified general pathologist, a fellow in the College of American Pathologists and is recognized by the Court of Queen’s Bench in Alberta as an expert in pathology.
“There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians,” said Hodkinson, who made it very clear he was against mask mandates and any attempt to continue or strengthen the lockdowns.
Hodkinson continued by calling the coronavirus pandemic “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.”
He added that he firmly believes that COVID-19 was “just another bad flu.”
“Positive test results do not, underlined in neon, mean a clinical infection,” he added, stating that many people who have COVID-19 but are asymptomatic should stop “driving public hysteria” around the virus because it is leading to more lives being ruined by mask mandates and economic lockdowns.
Watch this special Brighteon Conversations episode with Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, as he interviews Dr. Paul Cottrell regarding the lies being propagated regarding the coronavirus vaccines, PCR tests and more.
Hodkinson Argues Against Masks And Lockdowns
Hodkinson went on to talk about how he believes face masks do not work in the way people think they do, saying that policies that promote or require the use of paper or fabric masks “are simply virtue signaling.”
He continued by saying that face masks are “utterly useless,” that “there is no evidence base for their effectiveness whatsoever” and that any attempts to push mask mandates are “utterly ridiculous.”
“They’re not even worn effectively most of the time. It’s utterly ridiculous. Seeing these unfortunate, uneducated people – I’m not saying that in a pejorative sense – seeing these people walking around like lemming obeying without any knowledge base to put the mask on their face.”
Hodkinson also lambasted social distancing protocols, calling them as useless as face masks because the coronavirus is spread “by aerosols which travel 30 meters or so before landing.”
Social distancing rules in Alberta recommend that people stay at least two meters away from each other.
There is a lot of evidence to support Hodkinson’s claims against masks and social distancing.
A major Danish study has found that face masks do not provide “clear protection” to the wearer from being infected by COVID-19.
This study, which involved around 6,000 participants, found that the difference in infection rates between people who wore masks regularly and people who didn’t is “not big enough to conclude with certainty a benefit of using face masks with regard to protecting oneself from infection.”
Another study concluded that while so-called “non-pharmaceutical interventions” like social distancing, lockdowns and face masks may help slow down the spread of COVID-19, it will most likely result in a massive surge of flu cases next winter.
Hodkinson continued by saying that nothing can really be done to stop the spread of the coronavirus, and that all people can really do is to protect those most vulnerable and most likely to succumb to the disease, such as the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.
The expert virologist noted that only “one in 300,000” under 65 have died from the coronavirus in Alberta. Based on these statistics, it is “outrageous” for Alberta – and the rest of Canada, for that matter – to lock down their entire economies, especially for a disease that he believes is “just another bad flu” for younger demographics.
“It’s politics playing medicine, and that’s a very dangerous game,” concludes Hodkinson. “I’m absolutely outraged that this has reached this level. It should all stop tomorrow.”
Medical Groups In Canada Strongly Criticize Hodkinson
Other prominent groups and individuals in the medical field have since come out against Hodkinson for his statements.
The Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada claimed that Hodkinson was never a chairman. They did not deny that he has been a certified general pathologist since 1976.
Their statement went on to say that they believe COVID-19 is “a serious threat to the health of Canadians,” and that the Royal College supports all health recommendations and orders given to the public by the Public Health Agency of Canada, including mask mandates, social distancing regulations and economically restrictive lockdowns.
The Alberta Medical Association also came out against Hodkinson.
They released a statement on social media that laboratory physicians in Alberta endorse “the use of masks, hand washing and physical distancing along with all other public health measures to prevent the spread of COVID-19.”
The Associated Press has attempted to reach out to Hodkinson but has not received a response.
The medical profession -- by and large -- has failed to do its due diligence and thoroughly investigate this fraudulent and bogus pandemic.
WaterSong
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I can’t even start a shift at work without having a covid test - but hang on, it’s to protect my work colleagues and the residents in our care. You think the new strain is ‘ imagination ‘ - you want to see it first hand. New Zealand handled things right, so why wouldn’t they want people tested. We got through the original out break,
Within a week we have nearly a whole floor affected with over ten carers sick, lost two residents and many others will not survive - all within seven days !!
Ordinary flu does not impacted in that short space of time.
Oh hang on , I must remember this is just my imagination , fake news , conspiracy , it’s not really happening !
Within a week we have nearly a whole floor affected with over ten carers sick, lost two residents and many others will not survive - all within seven days !!
Ordinary flu does not impacted in that short space of time.
Oh hang on , I must remember this is just my imagination , fake news , conspiracy , it’s not really happening !
Brakelite
Well-Known Member
No-one is arguing that such conditions are happening, but when there are effective and proven real time cures available and being denied by ruling authorities in western countries but finding acceptance elsewhere, then yeah, it's a conspiracy.
Well I think Covid 19 not only exists but it has morphed into a new super-strain. I never ever thought that it was a conspiracy however, I do believe that the likelihood of the virus being created by future planners of the next age may have some merit... 
That was the fond hope of the conspirators, and the majority of the populations have fallen for it. You are not in the minority.
However, unless you are prepared to invest the time and trouble in connecting all the dots from November 2019 to January 2021, you will never discern the evil conspiracy behind the Wuhan virus. And to confirm that it was indeed a conspiracy, China has just destroyed (as well as destroyed in the past) tons of research at the Wuhan labs which would have provided WHO with hard evidence of China's duplicity (although WHO itself was a co-conspirator).
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Well I think Covid 19 not only exists but it has morphed into a new super-strain. I never ever thought that it was a conspiracy however, I do believe that the likelihood of the virus being created by future planners of the next age may have some merit...
I agree with this... and it is the most sensible overview I have heard for some time now.
It is no secret that China lied about things regarding covid... The first assessment was that it originated in the live markets in Wuhan... I believe at one point they stated it came from a bat.... from that point on... the virus began to travel and to travel fast....and THEN the conspiracies started to fly... faster than the virus itself.
The onus of the rate of travel and transmission really depends on the measures TAKEN and FOLLOWED by each individual country/region. Because people are being bombarded with conspiracy theories... they are being told to rebel against the mandates that the government has set in place to PROTECT the people.
The damage of the conspiracies is almost equal to if not worse than the virus itself because it adds fear and a feeling of "being tricked"... this leads to a revolt of the people... and thus a REFUSAL to obey government restrictions... Those who are fanning these flames of conspiracy are spreading untruths with FALSE authority and their rhetoric is careless... self-serving and dangerous. Just saying...
Whatever the agenda IS... God has it covered for us Christians. We claim to know that the time is drawing nigh... We know that persecution will enter into the western world... The bible tells us... about the last days... Whatever this is.... SCREAMING that we are being tricked and deceived is not the answer.... But humbling ourselves... repenting... and turning to GOD is the MIRACLE CURE.
The onus of the rate of travel and transmission really depends on the measures TAKEN and FOLLOWED by each individual country/region. Because people are being bombarded with conspiracy theories... they are being told to rebel against the mandates that the government has set in place to PROTECT the people.
The damage of the conspiracies is almost equal to if not worse than the virus itself because it adds fear and a feeling of "being tricked"... this leads to a revolt of the people... and thus a REFUSAL to obey government restrictions... Those who are fanning these flames of conspiracy are spreading untruths with FALSE authority and their rhetoric is careless... self-serving and dangerous. Just saying...
Whatever the agenda IS... God has it covered for us Christians. We claim to know that the time is drawing nigh... We know that persecution will enter into the western world... The bible tells us... about the last days... Whatever this is.... SCREAMING that we are being tricked and deceived is not the answer.... But humbling ourselves... repenting... and turning to GOD is the MIRACLE CURE.
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