Mask Control: Prove COVID-19 exists...I dare you!

[Ziggy]

and in my opinion.... this is even WORSE than ANY pandemic.... WHAT this issue has done to CHRISTIANS.... Instead of loving each other and supporting each other... people have FALLEN into the TRAP of .... BEING right.... BEING "woke".... BEING disgusted with fellow brothers and sisters in Christ because they chose to get vaccinated.... THIS is the ISSUE... and this is what satan was aiming for. DIVISION of the brethren.

I have stayed out of and away from this WHOLE mess.... I have not read ONE stupid article that proves absolutely NOTHING...but I have WATCHED as the MOB has INCREASED and the ANGER and HATRED grown to absolute INSANE proportions.

GOD is up to something.... DO you all think that HE has fallen asleep?? Do you think that WHAT man is planning or trying to do is TRUMPING what GOD is actively and presently doing? Do you think that you are so WOKE that the world DEPENDS on your constant bombardment of statistic after statistic? DO you believe you are BETTER than your fellow brothers and sisters in CHRIST who have CHOSEN to get vaccinated??

I have watched this snowball into something absolutely bigger than life...

Christians are the only sect who kill their own. VERY SAD indeed.

I will GLADLY stand up and DECLARE that I have not listened to ONE person in these forums regarding covid-19. I have meditated... prayed... sought God... Praised HIM... Worshipped HIM... and continued to love and support my neighbours.

I have not spoken much regarding this issue. I do NOT know what covid is .... but neither does ANYONE ELSE.

I think I shall let this stand as my LAST STATEMENT on this issue.

Pretty much everything that's happening in the world right now is meant to divide.
Divide and conquer.
It's not about a virus, a vaccine, immigration, ilegal immigration, right to life, right to choice, mask, no mask,
black vs white, poor vs rich.
No matter the topic it is meant to divide.
And I see this two ways.
Satan wants us weak and fighting against each other for every cause under the sun, with hate.
The Lord wants us strong by putting aside childish arguments and coming together for every cause under the sun, in love.

We are being sifted.

Lean not to the left hand (fearful) nor to the right (accusing)
we need to walk the centerline of no fear and love and understanding are.

I think the big push you see here in the forum against the dilemma of the day,
is brothers and sisters, not wanting to see their brothers and sisters falling for the fear the world is pushing on us all.
The reason why there is so much fear is because no one is being truthful about anything having to do with this dilemma.
If you question, they call you names, they silence you.. that does not promote confidence. I guess they haven't figured that out yet.
But it's all they know how to do. By they I mean the one's pushing the fear, the scientists, the government, the media.
Now it's your boss, your teacher, your parents, your spouse, your kids...
That is the tragedy.

Regardless how one feels or believes about the Cov, should not dictate or change the way one feels about how they love eachother.
But that is it's purpose and design.

I believe it is a test.

Is love thicker than a vax? a mask? the economy? education? family? even war?
That's the only thing the world can use to divide us, the very thing the world manufactures.
The world can't manufacture Love, Hope, Faith, Forgiveness. These come from the Lord.
And the world is very angry because their toes are getting sore for kicking against pricks.

We are the thorn in it's side.. lol
And it's fear can not overcome our faith unless we bow down to it.

GOD is up to something.... DO you all think that HE has fallen asleep?? Do you think that WHAT man is planning or trying to do is TRUMPING what GOD is actively and presently doing? Do you think that you are so WOKE that the world DEPENDS on your constant bombardment of statistic after statistic? DO you believe you are BETTER than your fellow brothers and sisters in CHRIST who have CHOSEN to get vaccinated??

No.
I believe brother's and sister's are trying to prevent people from falling into a fearmongering, satan controlled narative,
and are trying to break the spell.
I believe whether one agrees to be vaccinated or not, should not define whether one has faith in God.
But they should also not put their faith in man.

Dr. Fauci is an evil man. He lies, promotes fear, believes his voice is the only authority, all for the sake of money, in which he is rolling in and sharing with China. The very people that created and released the plague as well as the vaccine.

We just don't want people being unwittingly dragged into the devil's snare, which is the origen and cause of all the division in the first place.
Although, I believe that this is the same as what happened to Job.
Satan was allowed to release this plague in order to manifest the hearts of men.
Only when fear is present, do men show their true selves. If there is something hidden in the hearts, like bitterness and accusations, and hatred and division, it becomes apparent for all to see.

That's a good time to look in the mirror and see if any of these are in you and pluck them out.
When the world is quiet, that's when all the disease festers under the surface.
It takes a shaking and a waking to bring those diseases to the surface and break forth like putrid boils.
I think that's what we are seeing in the world right now.
And we, as the Lord's people are having our faith tried.
And our "friends" are ridiculing, accusing, and slandering us, because we won't curse God and die.

I suppose it's all in the eyes of the beholder.
I say,
Love your neighbor, love your family, love your children.. even if they hate you because the world tells them to.
We jsut try to put them on the No Fear path.
Perhaps a bit aggressively.
But the world is aggresively seeking to keep people in the bondage of fear.
It's a battle, and we are in a war, for the souls of those we love.
Even though it looks like we are attacking.. we are actually trying to pull people from the fire.
The fire of fear. And it aint holy.

God Bless You Addy,
I hear what your saying.
It's going to get worse before it gets better.
And some will stand, some will fall.
It all comes down to what's in the heart.
And if this don't flush it out, I don't know what will.
I rather not find out.
We been through a lot in the last few years.
They just keep aiming arrows at us, and the shield, which is the Lord, keeps quenching them.
:)
Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

Fauci, I believe falls into a certain catagory:

Rom 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Rom 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Rom 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Rom 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
Rom 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

Since this whole pandemic began, many people have been turning to the Lord and putting their faith in Him.
Those who choose not to vac, must trust that the Lord is in control of their health.
Those who choose to vac, must trust the Lord that they will come to no harm.

The only way to turn people to the Lord, is when there is a need.
Not for all, but for many.

I believe the Lord is using Fauci and others as tools to bring this about.
And although I don't trust Fauci, I don't hate him.
Who am I to judge how the Lord molds the clay?

What is that? meant for good..

Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.

We should pray for Fauci and others who mean us harm. It could be that the Lord will have mercy upon them and turn their hearts to him.

That's a tough order.. but we weren't called to do only easy tasks.
Amen?
Hugs

 

[Taken]

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Go to Joni’s Table talk show. Look at the archived episodes of that show.

You will see doctor, after doctor, after doctor, iterate about the cheap, safe, and effective treatments being suppressed, and the censorship of doctors telling the truth, and the dangers-and side effects of the vaccines, which is also being suppressed and censored.

Sure. It's a strategy.
Creat a danger, Create a solution.
Release a danger, Protect yourself.
Allow the danger to effect your target.
Give your target a FREE pseudo solution.
Headlines will read...history books will print the Fairytale;
Kudos for the munchausen HERO.
Get your POISON...it's FREE!

 

[Cristo Rei]

I think I shall let this stand as my LAST STATEMENT on this issue

Please don't go... Don't gooooo... Don't go away...

Cool old school song... LoL...
Please don't go Addy

 

[Addy]

@Ziggy ... Since you put a lot of effort and time in responding to my post... I thought I would address you and part of your words.

I did not post my words to get likes... to be popular... or to cause ANY type of REACTION towards anyone... I guess I just posted to have my little say.

The fear that you speak of (for me ) is NOT coming from the media... but rather within these forums... I guess that is because I have REJECTED and TURNED AWAY FROM the media... I don't have a clue what people are saying... These forums are the ONLY OPINIONS I am seeing and oh my goodness... the memes... the accusations... the WAKE up PEOPLE CALL.... I find it all so offensive... and very arrogant. ( That's just me )... I know you think and have articulated that this is being done so that WE WON'T FALL for the "AGENDA"... That's all cool... I don't listen to ANYONE... I don't believe ANYONE.... that is either a plus or negative... depending on who you ask... FOR me... it has been my protection... and my sanity.

I have never lived in fear.... I have never participated in the norm of life... so perhaps in this scenario... I am the one better off than most... as far as maintaining my peace.

I used to pop into these threads to say hello to a few people who frequent here and I guess this morning.. It just really finally got to me... I don't want to pop into these threads anymore... I don't want to hear ONE MORE WARNING WORD from anyone. I am up to my eyeballs with it all.

Anyways... I got my say... and I am done here... Time to move on to the topic of LIFE with CHRIST.

Bless you Ziggy... and all others...

 

[Addy]

Please don't go Addy

I'm not going anywhere... I just needed to have my say on this issue.... and I DID...

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

We should pray for Fauci and others who mean us harm. It could be that the Lord will have mercy upon them and turn their hearts to him.

That's a tough order.. but we weren't called to do only easy tasks.
Amen?

Throughout scripture, God rarely had mercy on enemies ( individuals at times yes) and there comes a point where we don't "pray" for them but deal with them in more forceful manners.

I do not speak about Fauci specifically because he is nothing more than an enabler- not an architect but the odds of "evil" turning around ( especially in the end age) is slim to none.

 

[Cristo Rei]

I'm not going anywhere... I just needed to have my say on this issue.... and I DID...

Ok... Did u like that song... I was in high school when it came out and it was a massive hit down here ...:)

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

Pretty much everything that's happening in the world right now is meant to divide.
Divide and conquer.

Very interesting analysis and I have come to basically that same conclusion.

If thats correct and given the sheer volume of "things" the dark side is doing to promote their agenda, I will not be surprised to see some form of "Direct Intervention" by God to make the choice clear for His people.

I doubt it will be in the form or a solution but rather than a path to choose because Jesus did say he came to set us against ourselves for His names sake.

That's nothing more than a theory based on current observations so I'm not promoting it or even saying its correct but rather than I believe it a likely near future event in some manner.

 

[Addy]

Ok... Did u like that song... I was in high school when it came out and it was a massive hit down here ...:)

I'm trying to figure out how old I was when this came out... I am 58 now...

 

[Ziggy]

It does get overwhelming for those who are already trusting in the Lord.
They have no doubts, no fears. They stand in Faith.
I guess the reason why we post here, is like preaching to the choir.. lol
Are we trying to convince ourselves that evil exists in the world?
I'm pretty sure we all know that.
But then you have the means by which the devil uses his (given) authority in order to confuse us and lead us astray through fear and doubt.
I don't believe the postings are for those who see his manipulations, but rather for those who haven't seen them yet.

Maybe we're just hoping that new people visiting the forum will also have an opinion, a doubt, a fear, no fear, faith...
One never knows the eyes that may pass through and take notice, and give them hope.
or dread..
two-edged sword, for sure.
Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

Throughout scripture, God rarely had mercy on enemies ( individuals at times yes) and there comes a point where we don't "pray" for them but deal with them in more forceful manners.

I do not speak about Fauci specifically because he is nothing more than an enabler- not an architect but the odds of "evil" turning around ( especially in the end age) is slim to none.

I don't know if praying for others is more for their benefit or for our own.
When we pray for others, it's hard to hold hateful thoughts in the heart.
I don't think I ever prayed a prayer for the Lord to punish someone.
I may have said something under my breath, and then had second thoughts.

I believe the Lord shows mercy to those who are willing to show mercy.
It doesn't mean God will answer that prayer, that may not be the results.
Regardless of what the end results are, we are to pray for our enemies nevertheless.

Vengence is mine saith the Lord.
Be angry and sin not.
I don't believe being legitamely angry is a problem.
It's when we act out on it, when we let the anger control us.
And that anger will eat you alive, not the one your angry with.

So I believe praying for ones enemies is for the purpose of cleansing oneself from self inflicting damage.

Just thinking
Hugs

 

[Cristo Rei]

I'm trying to figure out how old I was when this came out... I am 58 now...

It came out in the early to mid 90s

 

[Addy]

It came out in the early to mid 90s

my early (very early 20's)...

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

Regardless of what the end results are, we are to pray for our enemies nevertheless.

That's a subject well beyond a single post but it begs a contextual definition of the term "enemy' as defined in Matthew 5 and then the level of "hostility" the "enemy" is engaged in.

Enemies in the sense of those "not on our side" who do routine "stuff" ( things not nice) are those covered under "love your enemy" (agaphio)

Enemies in the sense of wolves seeking to destroy are a different matter and we are not required to "pray for" or even consider them- we are to engage them and defeat them.

 

[APAK]

At the risk of offending some here I want to challenge you to listen to what the mainstream media says with a great deal of caution.
Just because the media is saying there is a rise in this or that doesn't make it true.
They report what they are told to say....by certain individuals who are aligned with the corruption of our governments and businesses who have but one agenda....one world government

As a fitting add-on to your post here H2S. The local Orlando paper is also spreading the same propaganda and the unprecedented rises...they are blaming the new deaths on the Delta and of course the unvaxxed.....the 'Vaxed' are causing most of these deaths, at a very high rate, the highest rate in at least any county in Florida right now....here's the report below..

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14 portable morgues on way to Central Florida: ‘Number of deaths right now is unprecedented’
Stephen Hudak, Orlando Sentinel - Yesterday 10:28 AM

Although she could not say how many of the deaths are due to COVID-19, she said COVID-19 is unquestionably the “precipitating event.”

Florida is now reporting an average of 227 COVID-19 deaths a day — a state record and by far the highest count in the nation.

Across the U.S., 864 people died per day over the past week with COVID-19, said Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That’s an 11% increase from the week prior.

The state Health Department in Orange County received reports of 19 COVID-19 deaths between Monday and Thursday, and 10 more Friday, but it’s unclear when the deaths occurred as reports are often delayed. “But still we’ve never had a day where we had 10 reported overnight,” said Raul Pino, health officer in Orange County.

He said the death counts, like the county’s high infection rate, are fueled by the super-contagious delta variant and unvaccinated people.

“There is no question that the delta variant had changed everything,” he said. “But if we were at higher rates of vaccination, let’s say 80 to 85% of our eligible population, the numbers would be smaller.”

Pino said he was concerned that hospitals are calling the death figure unprecedented.

“That means that likely in the coming weeks we are going to see bad, bad numbers,” he said.

Finding morgue capacity is a top priority of health systems, said Drawdy.

She said the portable morgues hold a dozen bodies each. Adding 14 portables makes space for 168 more bodies.

“Unlike last year, we don’t have a state declaration [of emergency] that releases other resources and assets such as FEMORS,” she said, referring to the Florida Emergency Mortuary Operations Response System, based at the University of Florida’s William R. Maples Center for Forensic Medicine.

AdventHealth’s Central Florida Division attributed the capacity issue to backup at local funeral homes.

Funeral homes across Florida say they are overwhelmed with bodies right now.

FEMORS was deployed to assist in recovery operations at the Champlain Towers South condominium tower collapse in Surfside, Florida. The organization also responded to Orlando in 2016 to help local authorities after the mass shooting at the Pulse nightclub, which killed 49 patrons and employees.

The coalition’s district, which includes Brevard, Indian River, Lake, Martin, Orange, Osceola, Seminole and Volusia counties, covers 50 hospitals.

“We can’t provide one to every single hospital,” Drawdy said.

The coalition instead has worked with hospital systems in hopes of covering them all, she said.

AdventHealth for instance will get three units. Orlando Health also will get three.

“The Central Florida Disaster Medical Coalition offered Orlando Health three mobile refrigeration units, which we accepted out an abundance of caution. We did not request them and have no plans or need to utilize them at this time. Orlando Health has adequate morgue capacity,” said Kena Lewis, a spokesperson.

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PURE UNADULTERED PROPAGANDA supporting the evil jab producers and leftist governments at all levels....

 

[Ziggy]

That's a subject well beyond a single post but it begs a contextual definition of the term "enemy' as defined in Matthew 5 and then the level of "hostility" the "enemy" is engaged in.

Enemies in the sense of those "not on our side" who do routine "stuff" ( things not nice) are those covered under "love your enemy" (agaphio)

Enemies in the sense of wolves seeking to destroy are a different matter and we are not required to "pray for" or even consider them- we are to engage them and defeat them.

Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.
They will be engaged, they will be defeated.
Truth will always overcome lies, love overcomes hate, mercy over judgement.
The Lord puts things in motion. We may not understand why things happen the way they do,
but we know that all things happen for whatever God's purpose is.

I understand your frustration.. but God has a plan.
And part of that plan is for us to pray for friends and enemies alike.
Even when we have to rip the words from our heart.

Dear Lord,
I pray you turn darkness into light, evil into good, create a new heart in those that seek harm.
Thy will be done as it is in heaven.
Justice is what we seek, Thy justice you will uphold.
Let us not be weary in doing that which is good in thy sight.
Create in them a heart of repentance.
Their kingdom will not stand against you.
Protect us from the power of evil.
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
In Jesus name
Amen

Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

As a fitting add-on to your post here H2S. The local Orlando paper is also spreading the same propaganda and the unprecedented rises...they are blaming the new deaths on the Delta and of course the unvaxxed.....the 'Vaxed' are causing most of these deaths, at a very high rate, the highest rate in at least any county in Florida right now....here's the report below..

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14 portable morgues on way to Central Florida: ‘Number of deaths right now is unprecedented’
Stephen Hudak, Orlando Sentinel - Yesterday 10:28 AM

Although she could not say how many of the deaths are due to COVID-19, she said COVID-19 is unquestionably the “precipitating event.”

Florida is now reporting an average of 227 COVID-19 deaths a day — a state record and by far the highest count in the nation.

Across the U.S., 864 people died per day over the past week with COVID-19, said Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That’s an 11% increase from the week prior.

The state Health Department in Orange County received reports of 19 COVID-19 deaths between Monday and Thursday, and 10 more Friday, but it’s unclear when the deaths occurred as reports are often delayed. “But still we’ve never had a day where we had 10 reported overnight,” said Raul Pino, health officer in Orange County.

He said the death counts, like the county’s high infection rate, are fueled by the super-contagious delta variant and unvaccinated people.

“There is no question that the delta variant had changed everything,” he said. “But if we were at higher rates of vaccination, let’s say 80 to 85% of our eligible population, the numbers would be smaller.”

Pino said he was concerned that hospitals are calling the death figure unprecedented.

“That means that likely in the coming weeks we are going to see bad, bad numbers,” he said.

Finding morgue capacity is a top priority of health systems, said Drawdy.

She said the portable morgues hold a dozen bodies each. Adding 14 portables makes space for 168 more bodies.

“Unlike last year, we don’t have a state declaration [of emergency] that releases other resources and assets such as FEMORS,” she said, referring to the Florida Emergency Mortuary Operations Response System, based at the University of Florida’s William R. Maples Center for Forensic Medicine.

AdventHealth’s Central Florida Division attributed the capacity issue to backup at local funeral homes.

Funeral homes across Florida say they are overwhelmed with bodies right now.

FEMORS was deployed to assist in recovery operations at the Champlain Towers South condominium tower collapse in Surfside, Florida. The organization also responded to Orlando in 2016 to help local authorities after the mass shooting at the Pulse nightclub, which killed 49 patrons and employees.

The coalition’s district, which includes Brevard, Indian River, Lake, Martin, Orange, Osceola, Seminole and Volusia counties, covers 50 hospitals.

“We can’t provide one to every single hospital,” Drawdy said.

The coalition instead has worked with hospital systems in hopes of covering them all, she said.

AdventHealth for instance will get three units. Orlando Health also will get three.

“The Central Florida Disaster Medical Coalition offered Orlando Health three mobile refrigeration units, which we accepted out an abundance of caution. We did not request them and have no plans or need to utilize them at this time. Orlando Health has adequate morgue capacity,” said Kena Lewis, a spokesperson.

[email protected]

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PURE UNADULTERED PROPAGANDA supporting the evil jab producers and leftist governments at all levels....

Looking at daily death rates from 2010 - 2020
Death Statistics | Dead or Kicking

also take into account, the majority of people living in Florida are retirees, elderly...


I'm not good with charts, but it looks like according to this chart
Population, death rate, and total deaths all meet together.
So this simple mind of mine sees.. everyone is dead.
ewww..
I dont like charts..

Cause of Death per day:


Just saying.. all data matters.
Hugs

Death Statistics | Dead or Kicking

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

As one who deals with data based projections and analysis as a career and as an adverse expert who challenges data- people need to read these very carefully because those in the business know that data can and is "selectively manipulated" and/or cherry picked almost as a rule to show or promote a desired outcome. The devil is in the details and this is what generally is hidden. Here are a few 'examples"

Florida is now reporting an average of 227 COVID-19 deaths a day — a state record and by far the highest count in the nation.

Check the criteria this "assignment" is based on because only a true autopsy with full work up can say this definitively- what it takes for a death certificate is simply a physicians best guess in terms of category and is rarely challenged or verified.

“There is no question that the delta variant had changed everything,” he said. “But if we were at higher rates of vaccination, let’s say 80 to 85% of our eligible population, the numbers would be smaller.”

Pure propaganda with no legitimate data to support that "opinion"

Be real cautious about all these appeals to authority

 

[Curtis]

Fair enough...

Me personally, i will always speak out against immorality, injustice and criminal acts and always support freedom and liberty

Warning people about just how evil the whole wargamed and planned globalist created PLANDEMIC is, is absolutely the right thing to do - and there’s many doctors and researchers putting out that warning, but are censored by the globalist owned media.
God bless Marcus and Joni Lamb of Daystar for having the courage to give those voices a platform to warn us.