Looking for Job

[Wrangler]

You should pay a bit more attention!

- I copy the interlinear because every Bible translation can be discussed because of addition, corruption or omission!

We all have internet connection and can research as we please. The point is about being an effective communicator.

A bad OP makes a statement, like ‘in the beginning god said …’ A good OP makes a thesis to discuss or a question to answer. An example is why are the books of the Bible arranged in the order they are.

What are you looking to Job for? You have not expressed what the purpose of this thread is.

 

[JLG]

We all have internet connection and can research as we please. The point is about being an effective communicator.

A bad OP makes a statement, like ‘in the beginning god said …’ A good OP makes a thesis to discuss or a question to answer. An example is why are the books of the Bible arranged in the order they are.

What are you looking to Job for? You have not expressed what the purpose of this thread is.

-If you look at my threads it is always about faithful servants of God!

- So I speak about faithful servants of God and their special relationship to him!

- I think it is an appropriate way to learn about God and developping a good relationship with him!

- Many people believe but do they really know what they believe in?

 

[JLG]

14) Looking for Job

Job 6:14

Hebrew

A despairing man
לַמָּ֣ס (lam·mās)
Preposition-l, Article | Adjective - masculine singular
Strong's 4523: Fainting, disconsolate

[should have] the kindness
חָ֑סֶד (ḥā·seḏ)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 2617: Kindness, piety, reproof, beauty

of his friend,
מֵרֵעֵ֣הוּ (mê·rê·‘ê·hū)
Noun - masculine singular construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 7453: Friend, companion, fellow

even if he forsakes
יַעֲזֽוֹב׃ (ya·‘ă·zō·wḇ)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 5800: To loosen, relinquish, permit

the fear
וְיִרְאַ֖ת (wə·yir·’aṯ)
Conjunctive waw | Noun - feminine singular construct
Strong's 3374: Fear, reverence

of the Almighty.
שַׁדַּ֣י (šad·day)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 7706: The Almighty

- Job would never do that!

- he is the ESSENCE OF LOYAL LOVE!

- The POSITIVE FEAR OF THE ALMIGHTY RUNS THROUGH HIS BLOOD!

 

[JLG]

15) Looking for Job

Job 6:15-23

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- SO POWERFUL!

- From where he is, Job finds the strength to speak about his own family and they are not here, they are of no help!

- Of course, we are all different!

- We take different ways!

- It is difficult to build a strong connection between human beings!

- We don’t go at the same speed!

- Do we go faster when we are alone?

- Job is incredible with all the strength he finds from his pain and suffering!

- Do we need to be be in such a mental condition to be able to express our deepest feelings?

- It also tells us how much we have to strive to get closer to God and Jesus if we want them to do the same!

- It’s a two way move!

- We have to work hard to build a special relationship!

 

[JLG]

16) Looking for Job

Job 6: 24

Hebrew

Teach me,
ה֭וֹרוּנִי (hō·w·rū·nî)
Verb - Hifil - Imperative - masculine plural | first person common singular
Strong's 3384: To flow as water, to lay, throw, to point out, to teach

and I
וַאֲנִ֣י (wa·’ă·nî)
Conjunctive waw | Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 589: I

will be silent.
אַחֲרִ֑ישׁ (’a·ḥă·rîš)
Verb - Hifil - Imperfect - first person common singular
Strong's 2790: To cut in, engrave, plow, devise

Help me understand
הָבִ֥ינוּ (hā·ḇî·nū)
Verb - Hifil - Imperative - masculine plural
Strong's 995: To separate mentally, understand

how
וּמַה־ (ū·ma·hō·šā-)
Conjunctive waw | Interrogative
Strong's 4100: What?, what!, indefinitely what

I have erred.
שָּׁ֝גִ֗יתִי (ḡî·ṯî)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 7686: To stray, to mistake, to transgress, to reel, be enrapture

- A dialogue is interesting when it is constructive, when it helps you to go ahead, to push you, to analyze a situation, to visualize different perspectives!

- And Job has the experience to go in this direction but the people who have come to him are unable to be constructive, they are just condemning him!

- So it goes nowhere except when we listen to Job because again he has the experience!

 

[farouk]

-If you look at my threads it is always about faithful servants of God!

- So I speak about faithful servants of God and their special relationship to him!

- I think it is an appropriate way to learn about God and developping a good relationship with him!

- Many people believe but do they really know what they believe in?

@JLG Character studies in Scripture can be really absorbing and instructive....

 

[JLG]

17) Looking for Job

Job 6:25

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Hebrew

How
מַה־ (mah-)
Interrogative
Strong's 4100: What?, what!, indefinitely what

painful
נִּמְרְצ֥וּ (nim·rə·ṣū)
Verb - Nifal - Perfect - third person common plural
Strong's 4834: To press, to be pungent, vehement, to irritate

[are] honest
יֹ֑שֶׁר (yō·šer)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 3476: Straightness, uprightness

words!
אִמְרֵי־ (’im·rê-)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 561: Something said

But what
וּמַה־ (ū·mah-)
Conjunctive waw | Interrogative
Strong's 4100: What?, what!, indefinitely what

does your argument
יּוֹכִ֖יחַ (yō·w·ḵî·aḥ)
Verb - Hifil - Imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 3198: To be right, reciprocal, to argue, to decide, justify, convict

prove?
הוֹכֵ֣חַ (hō·w·ḵê·aḥ)
Verb - Hifil - Infinitive absolute
Strong's 3198: To be right, reciprocal, to argue, to decide, justify, convic

- Yes, there is nothing better than being constructive!

- There is nothing better when it helps to go ahead and evolve and make you stronger and positive and able to fight back!

 

[JLG]

18) Looking for Job

- Coming back to Job 6:25

- Are the three individuals who come to Job “the devil’s cavalry”?

- Well, pretty bad choice because JOB answers back with a NUCLEAR WEAPON from the pit where the devil has put him!

 

[quietthinker]

Job 1:20 Then Job stood up, tore his robe, and shaved his head. He fell to the ground and worshiped,
Hey! Could Job be the role model on how to worship?
I'm sure someone will take it up....a bit of robe tearing, a bit of head shaving and of course some falling to the ground!

 

[JLG]

Job 1:20 Then Job stood up, tore his robe, and shaved his head. He fell to the ground and worshiped,
Hey! Could Job be the role model on how to worship?
I'm sure someone will take it up....a bit of robe tearing, a bit of head shaving and of course some falling to the ground!

- In the Bible we can read about many bad examples!

- It enhances the good ones!

- Each faithful servant of God tells us that it is possible to develop a special relationship to God!

- But we have to do our part!

- They show us the way!

- But it’s up to us!

- And we are told a lot about God!

- There is no key!

- We have to build our own key!

 

[quietthinker]

- In the Bible we can read about many bad examples!

- It enhances the good ones!

- Each faithful servant of God tells us that it is possible to develop a special relationship to God!

- But we have to do our part!

- They show us the way!

- But it’s up to us!

- And we are told a lot about God!

- There is no key!

- We have to build our own key!

- There is no key! ? I would suggest there is a key. It is in plain sight yet most do not see it let alone know how to use it.

- We have to build our own key! ? This is what most do. It manifests in the copious religious yada yada which makes promises it does not keep......all the while manufacturing self flattery!

 

[JLG]

- There is no key! ? I would suggest there is a key. It is in plain sight yet most do not see it let alone know how to use it.

- We have to build our own key! ? This is what most do. It manifests in the copious religious yada yada which makes promises it does not keep......all the while manufacturing self flattery!

- We just have to think why God trained his faithful servants so many years before he could use them!

 

[quietthinker]

- We just have to think why God trained his faithful servants so many years before he could use them!

even donkey's ?

 

[JLG]

- They are not faithful servants of God!

- But who knows!

 

[quietthinker]

- They are not faithful servants of God!

- But who knows!

The donkey spoke to Balaam....didn't God enable him? ....and wouldn't that qualify the donkey as a faithful servant?....he could have kept his mouth closed!

 

[JLG]

The donkey spoke to Balaam....didn't God enable him? ....and wouldn't that qualify the donkey as a faithful servant?....he could have kept his mouth closed!

- The donkey was just an instrument!

- Servants of God are supposed to be human beings!

- In the Bible, the majority are not faithful servants of God!

- There is only a minority!

- And for those having a special relationship to God, we get only exceptions!

- Time and hard work are required and reading and studying and speaking about the Bible!

- But it must come from the heart!

- And ACTION!

 

[JLG]

19) Looking for Job

- Coming back to this verse in Job 6:25

- HONEST WORDS – BENEFIT – REPROOF

- ENCOURAGING PEOPLE IS A POWERFUL WEAPON!

- SOMETIMES WE CAN ALSO ENCOURAGE BY OUR PRESENCE MEANING IT IS NOT ALWAYS NECESSARY TO SAY A WORD!

- THERE IS A TIME FOR EVERYTHING!

- IN A MEAL WE CAN ADD SALT OR PEPPER TO MAKE IT TASTIER!

- SOMETIMES IT IS GOOD WITHOUT SALT AND PEPPER!

 

[JLG]

20) Looking for Job

- The three individuals sent by the devil to Job offer him a bad meal!

- He offers them a DELICIOUS ONE, I would say THE BEST ONE BY FIGHTING BACK WITH ALL HIS STRENGTH AND FROM THE PIT!

- ABSOLUTELY IMPRESSIVE BEYOND WORDS!

- RESPECT FOR JOB!

 

[JLG]

21) Looking for Job

- I have never thought of that, but IS THE BOOK OF JOB A BIG TABLE FOR THE SINNERS WE ARE WITH PLENTY OF SUCCULENT DISHES WE NEED TO DIGEST AND BEFORE THAT CHEW AS RUMINANTS DO?

 

[Pearl]

https://biblehub.com/job/2-10.htm

Job 2:10

Hebrew

“You speak
כְּדַבֵּ֞ר (kə·ḏab·bêr)
Preposition-k | Verb - Piel - Infinitive construct
Strong's 1696: To arrange, to speak, to subdue

as a
אַחַ֤ת (’a·ḥaṯ)
Number - feminine singular construct
Strong's 259: United, one, first

foolish woman
הַנְּבָלוֹת֙ (han·nə·ḇā·lō·wṯ)
Article | Adjective - feminine plural
Strong's 5036: Foolish, senseless

speaks,”
תְּדַבֵּ֔רִי (tə·ḏab·bê·rî)
Verb - Piel - Imperfect - second person feminine singular
Strong's 1696: To arrange, to speak, to subdue

he told
וַיֹּ֣אמֶר (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

her.
אֵלֶ֗יהָ (’ê·le·hā)
Preposition | third person feminine singular
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

“Should we accept
נְקַבֵּל֙ (nə·qab·bêl)
Verb - Piel - Imperfect - first person common plural
Strong's 6901: To receive, take

from
מֵאֵ֣ת (mê·’êṯ)
Preposition-m | Direct object marker
Strong's 853: Untranslatable mark of the accusative case

God
הָאֱלֹהִ֔ים (hā·’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Article | Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

only good
הַטּ֗וֹב (haṭ·ṭō·wḇ)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 2896: Pleasant, agreeable, good

and not
לֹ֣א (lō)
Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no

adversity?”
הָרָ֖ע (hā·rā‘)
Article | Adjective - masculine singular
Strong's 7451: Bad, evil

In all
בְּכָל־ (bə·ḵāl)
Preposition-b | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 3605: The whole, all, any, every

this,
זֹ֛את (zōṯ)
Pronoun - feminine singular
Strong's 2063: Hereby in it, likewise, the one other, same, she, so much, such deed, that,

Job
אִיּ֖וֹב (’î·yō·wḇ)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 347: Job -- a patriarch

did not
לֹא־ (lō-)
Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no

sin
חָטָ֥א (ḥā·ṭā)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 2398: To miss, to sin, to forfeit, lack, expiate, repent, lead astray, condemn

in what he said.
בִּשְׂפָתָֽיו׃ (biś·p̄ā·ṯāw)
Preposition-b | Noun - fdc | third person masculine singular
Strong's 8193: The lip, language, a margin

- Once again Job has lost everything even his health, the only thing left is his life and he keeps maintaining his integrity and his faithfulness to God, he doesn’t follow his wife as Adam did and Adam was perfect! So think about that too!