Looking for Jesus according to Mark

[JLG]

37) Looking for Jesus

Mark 3:

- Even from Jerusalem and from Idumea and from across the Jordan and from around Tyre and Sidon, a great multitude came to him when they heard about the many things he was doing.

- People were coming from everywhere!

- We are told about a multitude!

- But the religious leaders rejected him!

- They chose their personal power!

- They wanted to keep doing their business and controlling people!

- They would prevent people from opening their eyes!

- They wanted them to keep sleeping and stay spiritually dead!

- It is still true today!

- It is easier not to think by oneself!

- But then when you wake up, it seems to be that you are in a nightmare!

 

[bbyrd009]

- Usually the majority!

well im sure youre fam with the quote about whenever you find yourself following the majority its time to pause and reflect, paraphrased :)

 

[bbyrd009]

might be interesting to note that it is in the Mark account that Joseph asks for Jesus’ Body, but gets His “carcass” instead

 

[amadeus]

so i guess this might not be received so well, but you might contemplate how ppl in authority actually speak, or at least used to, dunno about now so much, but the point is they usually dont spout unqualified facts, and they even hedge their bets, so to speak, use analogies, talk in parables, etc

Consider also with what real authority they speak! Does a person bearing given some religious title necessarily have any authority which is meaningful to other people?

 

[amadeus]

well im sure youre fam with the quote about whenever you find yourself following the majority its time to pause and reflect, paraphrased :)

Jesus also spoke of this, did not... here?

Mt 7:13	Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mt 7:14	Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 

[amadeus]

might be interesting to note that it is in the Mark account that Joseph asks for Jesus’ Body, but gets His “carcass” instead

Perhaps then we may assume that Joseph had not yet found the Life that Jesus brought?

 

[JLG]

might be interesting to note that it is in the Mark account that Joseph asks for Jesus’ Body, but gets His “carcass” instead

Why do you mean by he gets his "carcass" instead?

 

[JLG]

might be interesting to note that it is in the Mark account that Joseph asks for Jesus’ Body, but gets His “carcass” instead

why do you mean by gets his "carcass" instead?

 

[JLG]

38) Looking for Jesus

Mark 3:

- And he told his disciples to have a small boat ready for him so that the crowd would not press in on him.

- Jesus is always ready to adapt to new situations!

- We must always remember that!

- We have to follow his example!

- We must use our brains!

- We must keep being active and creative!

- If we want to work for God and Jesus, we must show we are worthy!

- We must bear fruit just like Jesus!

 

[bbyrd009]

Perhaps then we may assume that Joseph had not yet found the Life that Jesus brought?

hmm, never considered it that way
i always took it as more like a reflection on where the Body of Christ was...
but maybe?

 

[bbyrd009]

Why do you mean by he gets his "carcass" instead?

well, the passage in Mark says that he asked for His body, but got His "carcass"
i can look it up later if yall dont beat me to it

 

[amadeus]

hmm, never considered it that way
i always took it as more like a reflection on where the Body of Christ was...
but maybe?

The Life is in the Spirit... not in the dead carcass. Joseph of Arimethaea certainly believed a measure of truth as did a number of the natural children of Jacob and his very closest followers [apostles?] but how short were they all still of all the glory of God which some of them were to have?

Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad." Matt 26:31 But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled." Matt 26:56 Where was the Body of Christ? The Head was there, but was there really a Body (or only a dead carcass?) yet before Jesus resurrected? "Surely I will not come into the tabernacle of my house, nor go up into my bed; I will not give sleep to mine eyes, or slumber to mine eyelids, Until I find out a place for the LORD, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob." Psalm 132:3-5 And what did Jesus say? "... The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head." Matt 8:20 Where is it that He is to lay His head? He had no place when he walked among men as a man 2000 years ago, but the Head was made ready and is ready now to connect to the Body of Christ which should or could be you and me. "And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence." Col 1:18 And then David continues to write: "For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation. This is my rest for ever: here will I dwell; for I have desired it." Psalm 132:13-14 Brings a different thought to us regarding Zion, does it not? We may speak of Zion as Jerusalem ["set ye double peace": Strong's 2414], but it is also a dry barren or desert place "a parched place": Strong's 6726], such as you and I were until [and if] God sent Life to us through Jesus by the Holy Spirit: "He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye." Deut 32:10

 

[JLG]

The Life is in the Spirit... not in the dead carcass. Joseph of Arimethaea certainly believed a measure of truth as did a number of the natural children of Jacob and his very closest followers [apostles?] but how short were they all still of all the glory of God which some of them were to have?

Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad." Matt 26:31 But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled." Matt 26:56 Where was the Body of Christ? The Head was there, but was there really a Body (or only a dead carcass?) yet before Jesus resurrected? "Surely I will not come into the tabernacle of my house, nor go up into my bed; I will not give sleep to mine eyes, or slumber to mine eyelids, Until I find out a place for the LORD, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob." Psalm 132:3-5 And what did Jesus say? "... The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head." Matt 8:20 Where is it that He is to lay His head? He had no place when he walked among men as a man 2000 years ago, but the Head was made ready and is ready now to connect to the Body of Christ which should or could be you and me. "And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence." Col 1:18 And then David continues to write: "For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation. This is my rest for ever: here will I dwell; for I have desired it." Psalm 132:13-14 Brings a different thought to us regarding Zion, does it not? We may speak of Zion as Jerusalem ["set ye double peace": Strong's 2414], but it is also a dry barren or desert place "a parched place": Strong's 6726], such as you and I were until [and if] God sent Life to us through Jesus by the Holy Spirit: "He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye." Deut 32:10

- That's a big difference between the apostles and Paul!

- Jesus used a progressive teaching but yet they couldn't understand him!

- They started understanding him after his death!

- They needed the puzzle to be put together!

- In the case of Paul, Jesus just needed to puthim on the right track!

- Then he went straight away!

- And he did his mission by himself!

- He didn't have anything to do with the apostles concerning this mission!

 

[JLG]

well, the passage in Mark says that he asked for His body, but got His "carcass"
i can look it up later if yall dont beat me to it

Matthew 27:58

He
οὗτος (houtos)
Demonstrative Pronoun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3778: This; he, she, it.

went
προσελθὼν (proselthōn)
Verb - Aorist Participle Active - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 4334: From pros and erchomai; to approach, i.e. come near, visit, or worship, assent to.

to Pilate
Πιλάτῳ (Pilatō)
Noun - Dative Masculine Singular
Strong's 4091: Pilate. Of Latin origin; close-pressed, i.e. Firm; Pilatus, a Roman.

to ask for
ᾐτήσατο (ētēsato)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Middle - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 154: To ask, request, petition, demand. Of uncertain derivation; to ask.

the
τὸ (to)
Article - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

body
σῶμα (sōma)
Noun - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's 4983: Body, flesh; the body of the Church. From sozo; the body, used in a very wide application, literally or figuratively.

of Jesus,
Ἰησοῦ (Iēsou)
Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's 2424: Of Hebrew origin; Jesus, the name of our Lord and two other Israelites.

and
τότε (tote)
Adverb
Strong's 5119: Then, at that time. From ho and hote; the when, i.e. At the time that.

Pilate
Πιλᾶτος (Pilatos)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 4091: Pilate. Of Latin origin; close-pressed, i.e. Firm; Pilatus, a Roman.

ordered that
ἐκέλευσεν (ekeleusen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 2753: To command, order, direct, bid. From a primary kello; 'hail'; to incite by word, i.e. Order.

it be given to him.
ἀποδοθῆναι (apodothēnai)
Verb - Aorist Infinitive Passive
Strong's 591: From apo and didomi; to give away, i.e. Up, over, back, etc.

Mark 15:45

When [Pilate] had confirmed [it]
γνοὺς (gnous)
Verb - Aorist Participle Active - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 1097: A prolonged form of a primary verb; to 'know' in a great variety of applications and with many implications.

with
ἀπὸ (apo)
Preposition
Strong's 575: From, away from. A primary particle; 'off, ' i.e. Away, in various senses.

the
τοῦ (tou)
Article - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

centurion,
κεντυρίωνος (kentyriōnos)
Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's 2760: Of Latin origin; a centurion, i.e. Captain of one hundred soldiers.

he granted
ἐδωρήσατο (edōrēsato)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Middle - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 1433: To give, grant, donate. Middle voice from doron; to bestow gratuitously.

the
τὸ (to)
Article - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

body
πτῶμα (ptōma)
Noun - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's 4430: A fall; a carcass, corpse, dead body. From the alternate of pipto; a ruin, i.e., lifeless body.

to Joseph.
Ἰωσήφ (Iōsēph)
Noun - Dative Masculine Singular
Strong's 2501: Joseph, a proper name. Of Hebrew origin; Joseph, the name of seven Israelites.

Luke 23:52

He
οὗτος (houtos)
Demonstrative Pronoun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3778: This; he, she, it.

went
προσελθὼν (proselthōn)
Verb - Aorist Participle Active - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 4334: From pros and erchomai; to approach, i.e. come near, visit, or worship, assent to.

to Pilate
Πιλάτῳ (Pilatō)
Noun - Dative Masculine Singular
Strong's 4091: Pilate. Of Latin origin; close-pressed, i.e. Firm; Pilatus, a Roman.

to ask [for]
ᾐτήσατο (ētēsato)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Middle - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 154: To ask, request, petition, demand. Of uncertain derivation; to ask.

the
τὸ (to)
Article - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

body
σῶμα (sōma)
Noun - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's 4983: Body, flesh; the body of the Church. From sozo; the body, used in a very wide application, literally or figuratively.

of Jesus.
Ἰησοῦ (Iēsou)
Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's 2424: Of Hebrew origin; Jesus, the name of our Lord and two other Israelites.

 

[JLG]

John 19:38

Afterward,
δὲ (de)
Conjunction
Strong's 1161: A primary particle; but, and, etc.

Joseph
Ἰωσὴφ (Iōsēph)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 2501: Joseph, a proper name. Of Hebrew origin; Joseph, the name of seven Israelites.

of
ἀπὸ (apo)
Preposition
Strong's 575: From, away from. A primary particle; 'off, ' i.e. Away, in various senses.

Arimathea,
Ἁριμαθαίας (Harimathaias)
Noun - Genitive Feminine Singular
Strong's 707: Arimathea, a place in Palestine. Of Hebrew origin; Arimathaea, a place in Palestine.

who was
ὢν (ōn)
Verb - Present Participle Active - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 1510: I am, exist. The first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist.

a disciple
μαθητὴς (mathētēs)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3101: A learner, disciple, pupil. From manthano; a learner, i.e. Pupil.

of Jesus
Ἰησοῦ (Iēsou)
Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's 2424: Of Hebrew origin; Jesus, the name of our Lord and two other Israelites.

(but
δὲ (de)
Conjunction
Strong's 1161: A primary particle; but, and, etc.

secretly
κεκρυμμένος (kekrymmenos)
Verb - Perfect Participle Middle or Passive - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 2928: To hide, conceal, lay up. A primary verb; to conceal.

for
διὰ (dia)
Preposition
Strong's 1223: A primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; through.

fear
φόβον (phobon)
Noun - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's 5401: (a) fear, terror, alarm, (b) the object or cause of fear, (c) reverence, respect. From a primary phebomai; alarm or fright.

of the
τῶν (tōn)
Article - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

Jews),
Ἰουδαίων (Ioudaiōn)
Adjective - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 2453: Jewish. From Iouda; Judaean, i.e. Belonging to Jehudah.

asked
ἠρώτησεν (ērōtēsen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 2065: Apparently from ereo; to interrogate; by implication, to request.

Pilate
Πιλᾶτον (Pilaton)
Noun - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's 4091: Pilate. Of Latin origin; close-pressed, i.e. Firm; Pilatus, a Roman.

to
ἵνα (hina)
Conjunction
Strong's 2443: In order that, so that. Probably from the same as the former part of heautou; in order that.

let him remove
ἄρῃ (arē)
Verb - Aorist Subjunctive Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 142: To raise, lift up, take away, remove.

the
τὸ (to)
Article - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

body
σῶμα (sōma)
Noun - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's 4983: Body, flesh; the body of the Church. From sozo; the body, used in a very wide application, literally or figuratively.

of Jesus.
Ἰησοῦ (Iēsou)
Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's 2424: Of Hebrew origin; Jesus, the name of our Lord and two other Israelites.

Pilate
Πιλᾶτος (Pilatos)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 4091: Pilate. Of Latin origin; close-pressed, i.e. Firm; Pilatus, a Roman.

gave him permission,
ἐπέτρεψεν (epetrepsen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 2010: To turn to, commit, entrust; I allow, yield, permit. From epi and the base of trope; to turn over, i.e. Allow.

so
οὖν (oun)
Conjunction
Strong's 3767: Therefore, then. Apparently a primary word; certainly, or accordingly.

he came
ἦλθεν (ēlthen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 2064: To come, go.

and
καὶ (kai)
Conjunction
Strong's 2532: And, even, also, namely.

removed
ἦρεν (ēren)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 142: To raise, lift up, take away, remove.

His
αὐτοῦ (autou)
Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Genitive Masculine 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 846: He, she, it, they, them, same. From the particle au; the reflexive pronoun self, used of the third person, and of the other persons.

body.
σῶμα (sōma)
Noun - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's 4983: Body, flesh; the body of the Church. From sozo; the body, used in a very wide application, literally or figuratively.

 

[JLG]

39) Looking for Jesus

Mark 3:

- Because he cured many, all those who had serious diseases were crowding around him to touch him. Even the unclean spirits, whenever they saw him, would fall down before him and cry out and say: “You are the Son of God.” But many times he sternly ordered them not to make him known. He ascended a mountain and summoned those whom he wanted, and they came to him. And he formed a group of 12, whom he also named apostles, those who were to accompany him and whom he would send out to preach and to have authority to expel demons.

- When Jesus was on earth, many came to him to be cured!

- It was easy to see that he had come from God!

- Many accepted his message, others rejected it!

- The apostles could live with him every day, day and night!

- They could share everything with him!

- He used a progressive teaching to teach them!

- Yet, they found it difficult to understand him!

- They had to wait till his death to understand his message!

- Paul only saw him in a vision, he was taught a lesson and he understood everything straight away!

- We have the Bible!

- We can get to know a lot!

- But many don’t realize its importance!

- Of course, we need to use it, to read it and to think about it!

 

[JLG]

40) Looking for Jesus

Mark 3:

- And the group of 12 that he formed were Simon, to whom he also gave the name Peter, James the son of Zebedee and John the brother of James (he also gave these the name Boanerges, which means “Sons of Thunder”), Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus, Simon the Cananaean, and Judas Iscariot, who later betrayed him. Then he went into a house, and again the crowd gathered, so that they were not able even to eat a meal. But when his relatives heard about it, they went out to seize him, for they were saying: “He has gone out of his mind.”

- Jesus went to the earth to accomplish his Father’s will!

- He was always busy!

- He was always eager to teach and cure people!

- His personal needs were secondary!

- Think about his family!

- They couldn’t understand him!

 

[JLG]

- May I ask a question to everybody ?

- I will let people time!

- Then I will answer too!

- There is no trap!

- WHAT IS ALL THE BIBLE ABOUT EXCEPT THE FACT THAT IT IS GOD’S WORD ?

- There may be different answers depending on the elements we have!

 

[JLG]

41) Looking for Jesus


Mark 3:


- Also, the scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying: “He has Beelzebub, and he expels the demons by means of the ruler of the demons.” So after calling them to him, he spoke to them with illustrations: “How can Satan expel Satan? If a kingdom becomes divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand; and if a house becomes divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. Also, if Satan has risen up against himself and has become divided, he cannot stand but is coming to an end.


- We see Pharisees and scribes in front of Jesus!


- Many men against one!


- And they are supposed to know what they are talking about!


- They went to religious school!


- And when we hear their poor arguments, they have no shame!


- And Jesus takes time to teach them and show their lack of arguments!


- He shows a lot of patience to these stupid men!


- When we say things, we need a minimum of arguments!


- We need to think about what we say!


- If we don’t have arguments, it is better to say nothing!


- Making mistakes is not a problem!


- But we need to think a minimum!


- And not repeat what others say!

 

[JLG]

42) Looking for Jesus


Mark 3:


- In fact, no one who enters the house of a strong man is able to steal his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man. Only then can he plunder his house. Truly I say to you that all things will be forgiven the sons of men, no matter what sins they commit and what blasphemies they speak. But whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit has no forgiveness forever but is guilty of everlasting sin.”He said this because they were saying: “He has an unclean spirit.”


- We have many examples in the Bible of people who were condemned by God!


- The Bible tells us about the Israelites and the Jews!


- They had God’s favor!


- They took advantage of God patience!


- And they lost everything!


- And it happened many times!


- So we should be careful when we act!


- We shouldn’t let others tell us what to do but be sure it is right or wrong!


- We have the Bible and we can check many things!


- We can ask God to help us to really understand his will and his word by praying sincerely to him!


- We can keep praying to God to express to him our deep feelings, our troubles, our joys, all our thoughts!