Liars Are Born That Way

[Webers_Home]

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• Ps 58:3 . .The wicked are estranged from the womb; these who speak lies
go astray from birth.

This is pretty serious because the Bible says that there is a marvelous city in
the works wherein is not allowed dishonesty.

• Rev 22:15 . . Outside are . . . everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

Plus, natural-born liars are destined for fiery termination.

• Rev 21:8 . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone, which is the second death.

Now, I'm willing to bet that there are more natural-born liars on earth than
LGBTQ, yet Christians readily rake LGBTQ over the coals while tolerating
dishonesty as if it were somehow acceptable in comparison; yet both are in
the same boat headed for the same destination.
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[GISMYS_7]

Sin and all evil you do is by your choice!!! You choose!!

 

[Tong2020]

All humans, in Adam, born on earth have a heart whose thoughts, intents, imaginations, are evil from his youth. This was revealed by God Himself in Gen. 8:21. I note at least one exception, Jesus.

The natural fallen man, regardless of gender, are naturally (even artificially so to speak, today), born that way.

Tong
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[GISMYS_7]

Yes!! All people are born with a sin nature but it is our choice if we allow the sin nature to control us or we control the sin nature with God's help. No one is forced to kill, steal and lie =our choice!

 

[Tong2020]

Yes!! All people are born with a sin nature but it is our choice if we allow the sin nature to control us or we control the sin nature with God's help. No one is forced to kill, steal and lie =our choice!

Yes no one is forced to kill, steal and lie. Nobody is saying otherwise. But the testimony and revelation of God regarding the fallen man remains, that they have a heart whose thoughts, intents, imaginations, are evil from his youth. Meditate on that truth about man and try to ponder about what the fallen man will naturally do, even naturally choose to do.

Tong
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[Webers_Home]

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It's difficult at times to find a Christian with integrity. When a critical thinker
points out that some of God's ways are unreasonable; the average Christian
typically circles the wagons, i.e. they become defensive and judgmental;
deceitfully concealing the unspeakable truth that they too have sometimes
entertained the very same opinions.

Try answering the seven questions listed below with a straight up YES or a
NO sans excuses, explanations, apologetics, sermons, accusations,
recriminations, and/or canned responses. If your answers are too personal,
then it's okay to remain silent, but keeping in mind that one day you may be
required to stand before God and give an answer for yourself openly and
honestly rather than secretly.

1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to
prevent the Serpent from tempting Eve?

2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?

3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the
Lake Of Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those
punishments go too far, i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.

4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that
He would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and
created people anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was
something sick and twisted about God for doing that?

5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad
man?

6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?

7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as an enemy rather than
a friend?

The questions themselves don't really matter all that much. What matters
most is whether they're answered honestly; because in order to establish a
productive rapport with God, people have to be transparent rather than
secretive.

• Heb 4:13 . . Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything
is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give
account.

• Rev 1:13-15 . . Among the lamp stands was someone like a son of man;
dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around
his chest . . . and his eyes were like blazing fire.
_

 

[Tong2020]

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It's difficult at times to find a Christian with integrity. When a critical thinker
points out that some of God's ways are unreasonable; the average Christian
typically circles the wagons, i.e. they become defensive and judgmental;
deceitfully concealing the unspeakable truth that they too have sometimes
entertained the very same opinions.

<<<When a critical thinker
points out that some of God's ways are unreasonable>>>

Can you give one or two of some of God’s ways that are unreasonable? Unreasonable to whom? And please tell how they are unreasonable.

Try answering the seven questions listed below with a straight up YES or a
NO sans excuses, explanations, apologetics, sermons, accusations,
recriminations, and/or canned responses. If your answers are too personal,
then it's okay to remain silent, but keeping in mind that one day you may be
required to stand before God and give an answer for yourself openly and
honestly rather than secretly.

1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to
prevent the Serpent from tempting Eve?

2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?

3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the
Lake Of Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those
punishments go too far, i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.

4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that
He would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and
created people anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was
something sick and twisted about God for doing that?

5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad
man?

6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?

7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as an enemy rather than
a friend?

The questions themselves don't really matter all that much. What matters
most is whether they're answered honestly; because in order to establish a
productive rapport with God, people have to be transparent rather than
secretive.

• Heb 4:13 . . Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything
is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give
account.

• Rev 1:13-15 . . Among the lamp stands was someone like a son of man;
dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around
his chest . . . and his eyes were like blazing fire.
_

My answers would be from the time I was created anew by God in Christ Jesus.

<<<1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to
prevent the Serpent from tempting Eve?>>>

No.

<<<2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?>>>

No.

<<<3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the
Lake Of Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those
punishments go too far, i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.>>>

No.

<<<4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that
He would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and
created people anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was
something sick and twisted about God for doing that?>>>

No.

<<<5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad
man?>>>

No.

<<<6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?>>>

No.

<<<7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as an enemy rather than
a friend?>>>

No.

Tong
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[stunnedbygrace]

Wow. I actually answered yes to all but one question.
I assumed everyone would answer the same way.
It was probably a stupid assumption!

 

[amadeus]

Wow. I actually answered yes to all but one question.
I assumed everyone would answer the same way.
It was probably a stupid assumption!

4 negatives and 3 positives for me. God really did make variety of people. How could anyone but Him possibly render a fair and accurate judgement in each and every case?

 

[amadeus]

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• Ps 58:3 . .The wicked are estranged from the womb; these who speak lies
go astray from birth.

This is pretty serious because the Bible says that there is a marvelous city in
the works wherein is not allowed dishonesty.

• Rev 22:15 . . Outside are . . . everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

Plus, natural-born liars are destined for fiery termination.

• Rev 21:8 . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone, which is the second death.

Now, I'm willing to bet that there are more natural-born liars on earth than
LGBTQ, yet Christians readily rake LGBTQ over the coals while tolerating
dishonesty as if it were somehow acceptable in comparison; yet both are in
the same boat headed for the same destination.
_

And do you believe then about these verses with regard to liars?

"I said in my haste, All men are liars." Psalm 116:11

"God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged" Rom 3:4

 

[amigo de christo]

And do you believe then about these verses with regard to liars?

"I said in my haste, All men are liars." Psalm 116:11

"God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged" Rom 3:4

Yes indeed . Let GOD be TRUE and every man a Liar . IN others words , KNOW YE THAT GOD IS TRUE and SPEAKS ONLY TRUTH .
Test every man as fallible . BUT LET THE WORD OF GOD BE YOUR TRUTH . TEST ALL MEN , for anyone , any man is capable of lying .
BUT NOT GOD . STAND ON HIS WORDS , STAND ON HIS TRUTH , STAND ON THE BIBLE and TEST ALL MEN and DO SO DAILY .

 

[Webers_Home]

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My answers would be from the time I was created anew by God in Christ Jesus.

The test questions ask: was there ever a time
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[Nancy]

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It's difficult at times to find a Christian with integrity. When a critical thinker
points out that some of God's ways are unreasonable; the average Christian
typically circles the wagons, i.e. they become defensive and judgmental;
deceitfully concealing the unspeakable truth that they too have sometimes
entertained the very same opinions.

Try answering the seven questions listed below with a straight up YES or a
NO sans excuses, explanations, apologetics, sermons, accusations,
recriminations, and/or canned responses. If your answers are too personal,
then it's okay to remain silent, but keeping in mind that one day you may be
required to stand before God and give an answer for yourself openly and
honestly rather than secretly.

1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to
prevent the Serpent from tempting Eve?

2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?

3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the
Lake Of Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those
punishments go too far, i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.

4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that
He would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and
created people anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was
something sick and twisted about God for doing that?

5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad
man?

6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?

7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as an enemy rather than
a friend?

The questions themselves don't really matter all that much. What matters
most is whether they're answered honestly; because in order to establish a
productive rapport with God, people have to be transparent rather than
secretive.

• Heb 4:13 . . Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything
is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give
account.

• Rev 1:13-15 . . Among the lamp stands was someone like a son of man;
dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around
his chest . . . and his eyes were like blazing fire.
_

1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to
prevent the Serpent from tempting Eve?

2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?
Yes.

3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the
Lake Of Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those
punishments go too far, i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.
Yes.

4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that
He would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and
created people anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was
something sick and twisted about God for doing that?
No.

5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad
man?
Yes

6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?
NO.

7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as an enemy rather than
a friend?
No.

 

[Truman]

No to first 6, #3, I believe, is not eternal. At one time I called Him a liar, yes to #7. I was, of course, wrong.

 

[Tong2020]

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Tong2020 said: ↑
My answers would be from the time I was created anew by God in Christ Jesus.

The test questions ask: was there ever a time
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I qualified my answers to your questions as to be from the time I was created anew by God in Christ Jesus. For I thought including time before that time, those test questions would otherwise not be applicable to me and that they would not be answerable by yes or no which you would like. But okay, let me answer. So here goes at the time before I was created anew by God in Christ Jesus.

<<<1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to
prevent the Serpent from tempting Eve?>>>

No. (I don’t read the bible then so I have no knowledge about that matter).

<<<2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?>>>

No. (I was too young and ignorant perhaps to think about that or have thoughts about that.)

<<<3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the
Lake Of Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those
punishments go too far, i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.>>>

No. (I was too young and ignorant perhaps to think about that or have thoughts about that.)

<<<4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that
He would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and
created people anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was
something sick and twisted about God for doing that?>>>

No. (I don’t read the bible then so I have no knowledge about that matter).

<<<5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad
man?>>>

No. (I was too young and ignorant perhaps to think about that or have thoughts about that.)

<<<6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?>>>

No. (I was too young and ignorant, and occupied with a lot of things concerning youth stage perhaps to think about that or have thoughts about that.)

<<<7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as an enemy rather than
a friend?>>>

No. ( Back then, God is just God to me).

Hmm. Overall, it’s all No’s for me, before and after I was created anew by God in Christ Jesus. I too am surprised really. Just now I came to be aware of that. Thanks for the exercise.

Tong
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[MatthewG]

I remember lying to my mom when younger even to adult life… my mom would tell me sometimes she would tell others white lies…

Black lies, white lies, a lie is a lie.

I’m not above telling a lie. Though desire to stay and stick with truth over lying; though there may be situations where you may lie to save someone having their feelings hurt and it has nothing to do about Jesus or God anyway.

Listen anyway I can not say that a lie won’t come out my mouth because thinking about promises that were never kept made me a liar anyway to whomever was promised that…

Oh I will see you again but it is a year later but it took so long… type deals. Oh I’ll call you back but never call back or something.

Liars… all of us have and will probably lie again even if it by mistake…

Thank God for how Good He is and merciful ….

Just some random coffee thoughts

 

[Truman]

I'm glad I wasn't born a liar...it was bad enough being born a sinner!

 

[Webers_Home]

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• 1John 2:2 . . . He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but
also for the sins of the whole world.

A forgiven liar will continue to be dishonest because they were born that
way.

"Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots? Neither can you
do good who are accustomed to doing evil." (Jer 13:23)

What is there to be done about that?
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[MatthewG]

Interesting words.

Thank God for the renewing of our minds when you go and seek Christ.

Is the point to point out the liar or help the liar get to the truth and be set free from darkness?

What is the point in all of these things? To lead people to truth right? The only way to get to the truth is to read and reflect on the word of God that is true. Jesus is truth, the Holy Spirit is called the spirit of truth.

Is it good to lie? No. Have you and me? Oh yes most assuredly. Does God forgive? Yes, has he forgiven you? Yes.

God is a good God who loved the world first and because of that you, me whoever has found the truth in Christ of forgiveness should in turn change and look towards Him and willingly live by the spirit which if a choice you have to decide for yourself.

To serve God and Jesus or not.

 

[michaelvpardo]

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• Ps 58:3 . .The wicked are estranged from the womb; these who speak lies
go astray from birth.

This is pretty serious because the Bible says that there is a marvelous city in
the works wherein is not allowed dishonesty.

• Rev 22:15 . . Outside are . . . everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

Plus, natural-born liars are destined for fiery termination.

• Rev 21:8 . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone, which is the second death.

Now, I'm willing to bet that there are more natural-born liars on earth than
LGBTQ, yet Christians readily rake LGBTQ over the coals while tolerating
dishonesty as if it were somehow acceptable in comparison; yet both are in
the same boat headed for the same destination.
_

"Johnny, who broke this flashlight ?"
"I don't know"
"John H. Sapien, did you break this flashlight?"
"No mommy, I didn't do it."
"Then why is there chocolate all over it and all over your hands?"
"You gave me a candy bar, mommy."
"Johnny, how did the chocolate get on the flashlight?"
"I don't know mommy."
...

Sin defines humanity. Everything that we do that is not according to God's will is sin.
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.