Let's Talk About Socialism and Marxism

[Reggie Belafonte]

I was finding a definition that was easy, very easy to understand. @April_Rose wanted easy not an essay for a college students as she explained in post 7 here Let's Talk About Socialism and Marxism so stick our essay in your ear. Next time you people need to read

I knew what I just said when I was 9yo. it's as simple as to understand, not to mention a fact.

Fact is Socialism is founded on all smoke and mirrors. it's all about delusions that it's empowering the people but it's not built on solid foundations, it all resting on thin ice.

Why do you think such as Socialism was embraced by the Russians and the Germans back in the days that led to Communism and the Nazi hogwash, they were fed delusions and all such was Anti-Christ in fact.
If you want to be led down the track that all become enslaved like the Nazis and the Communist were be it on your own head.

 

[April_Rose]

And this is the artist rendition of what I will look like as your president:

LOL

 

[Taodeching]

Great answers guys, truly superb. To add to that Capito-socio-ism is when I get elected President and demand fair treatment of disabled and homeless but leave the incentives to accel in the business sector. JK,LOL.

One vote here for you :)

 

[Amazed@grace]

And this is the artist rendition of what I will look like as your president:

Are those contacts? :

 

[Raccoon1010]

Are those contacts? :

Yes, royal blue tinted. Picked the color myself. hehehe :cool:

 

[JohnDB]

Now what is known but generally not really believed is that America has tried both of these systems and all have failed spectacularly. In fact we have a national holiday celebrating it's failure and the leaving of socialism and adopting free market capitalism. You know it as Thanksgiving.

When the colonies were first formed we actually had Marxism. European descendants were somewhat ok but Asian, African, and Indian descendants were very much heavily discriminated against. Jews weren't that well received either. Someone could just take their property (if they found someone willing to sell something of value to them) or enslave them or kill them and they would have no recourse. It wasn't considered murder to murder one of these people... maybe you would get fined.
Over the years this has been erased because of the constitution being more literally interpreted...as much as people whine about it's interpretation it's actually a pretty good document.

So...we can try to claim the higher moral ground...but we really don't have it.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Now what is known but generally not really believed is that America has tried both of these systems and all have failed spectacularly. In fact we have a national holiday celebrating it's failure and the leaving of socialism and adopting free market capitalism. You know it as Thanksgiving.

When the colonies were first formed we actually had Marxism. European descendants were somewhat ok but Asian, African, and Indian descendants were very much heavily discriminated against. Jews weren't that well received either. Someone could just take their property (if they found someone willing to sell something of value to them) or enslave them or kill them and they would have no recourse. It wasn't considered murder to murder one of these people... maybe you would get fined.
Over the years this has been erased because of the constitution being more literally interpreted...as much as people whine about it's interpretation it's actually a pretty good document.

So...we can try to claim the higher moral ground...but we really don't have it.

We're already experiencing a mixture of socialism and capitalism. I heard not too long ago that they're creating homes for the homeless here. They have to submit to drug testing and such, but they have homes to live in if they want. The problem is still that the disabled are homeless a lot around here. They can't afford their psych meds and end up on the street homeless. Really sad. But SSI won't let them on disability because it has to be proven that they are still disabled while on psych meds.

And we have medical for the poor thru Obama care.

People can still run companies and get rich, and pay huge taxes

 

[JohnDB]

We're already experiencing a mixture of socialism and capitalism. I heard not too long ago that they're creating homes for the homeless here. They have to submit to drug testing and such, but they have homes to live in if they want. The problem is still that the disabled are homeless a lot around here. They can't afford their psych meds and end up on the street homeless. Really sad. But SSI won't let them on disability because it has to be proven that they are still disabled while on psych meds.

And we have medical for the poor thru Obama care.

People can still run companies and get rich, and pay huge taxes

OK...but there is a limit to what this will do. You can't force someone to be a productive member of society or stop being a leech either...or even be a reasonable individual. And housing for the homeless is as dumb an idea as any made. Its been tried many times without success. But there's nothing like making yet another lead balloon and seeing if it will float.

There's the story about a barber who started giving away haircuts or a shave for those in public service type roles...and those in public service all gave the barber a gift back that was worth much more than the haircuts and shaves he gave away for free...until the moment that a politician showed up and got a free shave...a dozen more politicians showed up the next day for a free shave and a haircut and no gift was ever given in return.

Politicians are there to justify their own existence and to "make a lasting legacy" of their "service". They talk a great game but few ever do anything that is actually beneficial to their constituents...and it is usually accidental when they do. The interstate system we have in America was one of the few good things that the Government actually created that helped America. People could travel and ship goods anywhere much easier than ever before. But it was created for the military.

National Parks is almost a wash...just saying. It's benefits are almost a wash but it is to the good side in many ways. So...I'll claim that it is a good thing.
Busting up "Ma Bell" was another good thing...it has spurred the growth of the internet. They weren't going to do it even though they knew about it. Nobody else had access they way they did either. Nowadays...its a free for all...and we get the savings...mostly. Some areas are still tightly controlled and other companies are roadblocked from entering...those people pay handsomely for such things. (I'm in one of those areas) And politicians make all kinds of backroom, lefthanded deals out of keeping things this way.

What we need is a nationwide Electric and Telecom grid built by our government...one that is a different "superhighway" of sorts. One that would allow anyone access anywhere. Then you could buy electricity from anyone anywhere...or you could buy telecom (cable or internet) from anyone anywhere. Much much cheaper than ever before...cash grants have been given to some of these telecom companies to do this sort of thing for rural areas and the telecoms have taken the money and done nothing in return. absolutely zero...nada...they just took the money and gave the politicians platitudes in return. So...yeah.

 

[Pathfinder7]

And this is the artist rendition of what I will look like as your president:

Is that the 'royal crown'?
----
Maybe...as your king?
- Not.. "as your president"..

LOL

 

[Raccoon1010]

Is that the 'royal crown'?
----
Maybe...as your king?
- Not.. "as your president"..

LOL

LOL, yeah I was playing around and trying to be funny. Cause we all know socialism mixed in is a dictatorship. But yeah :)

 

[Ziggy]

Great topic.
Thank You

 

[NayborBear]

The Anti-Christ mob want to create a substandard people and make out that they are empowering them 24/7 but once their plans takes root then the people find that they have been duped. All such has to do with deceptions and lies. all just smoke and mirrors.

The Anti-Christ be they whatever political type will always want to enslave people under them and work to undermine freedom of speech, that is the top priority ! the Key to undermining freedom of speech is always Political Correctness, as without such a tool the Nazis and the Communist would never of taken root over the People. that's is the Key foundation of Socialist.
The fact is that such Governments want to own the People and make you their Cattle, you are just a number to such Governments, they own you ! They tell you how to think and education to them is in fact only indoctrination.
Jesus Christ said that you would know them by their works ! yep do the detective work and you will find the trail of lies and deceptions sticks out clearly.

If one has a handle on how Hitler got the Germans to dance to this cunning Hungarian so called Zionist bastard Jew, you would understand how the game play works. They sow the seeds years before hand and being in bed with the Media, owning the Media they can run loose free to bastardise all. fact is that all such Anti-Christ use Malice as a weapon against all who speak up against them.

The Main problem with the majority of People is that they do not understand the foundations of the workings of such Devils. such is all their in front of your face, if you have a true handle on History and the Hell such that they have caused through out.
They work to bastardise all thus breeding trash people that lack Virtue and create just pathetic grubs who love the darkness.
They work to undermine a Nations Family's values on ever level you can think of.
They have always worked to Kill Children by the millions to their gods Moloch etc and then such as they no wonder will start on you with some BS that they claim is a Vaccine ! they are serving their gods that they truly idolise. A Christian never idolises anyone or a thing, period ! why do people idolise pop stars etc, because they are fools in fact. If you have ever had people idolise you, then you will know first hand what a dolt that they are, oh you have another fickle delusional admirer .

I "like" this post! It rather reminds me of jack nicholson saying: "You CAN'T HANDLE the TRUTH!

Cuz, that which the enemies of God and people called by His Name, are in plain sight EVERYWHERES!

Then? It's up to each individual believer in how MUCH you "let yer little light shine", ON IT! And, How much is one willing to sacrifice in keeping your little light shining ON 'em!
Because "they" aren't LOOKING for COMPROMISE!
"They" are SEEKING to CONQUER!

Thing is? The enemies of God and Jesus Christ have been doing this a whole lot longer then any of us walking around today!

 

[Raccoon1010]

OK...but there is a limit to what this will do. You can't force someone to be a productive member of society or stop being a leech either...or even be a reasonable individual. And housing for the homeless is as dumb an idea as any made. Its been tried many times without success. But there's nothing like making yet another lead balloon and seeing if it will float.

There's the story about a barber who started giving away haircuts or a shave for those in public service type roles...and those in public service all gave the barber a gift back that was worth much more than the haircuts and shaves he gave away for free...until the moment that a politician showed up and got a free shave...a dozen more politicians showed up the next day for a free shave and a haircut and no gift was ever given in return.

Politicians are there to justify their own existence and to "make a lasting legacy" of their "service". They talk a great game but few ever do anything that is actually beneficial to their constituents...and it is usually accidental when they do. The interstate system we have in America was one of the few good things that the Government actually created that helped America. People could travel and ship goods anywhere much easier than ever before. But it was created for the military.

National Parks is almost a wash...just saying. It's benefits are almost a wash but it is to the good side in many ways. So...I'll claim that it is a good thing.
Busting up "Ma Bell" was another good thing...it has spurred the growth of the internet. They weren't going to do it even though they knew about it. Nobody else had access they way they did either. Nowadays...its a free for all...and we get the savings...mostly. Some areas are still tightly controlled and other companies are roadblocked from entering...those people pay handsomely for such things. (I'm in one of those areas) And politicians make all kinds of backroom, lefthanded deals out of keeping things this way.

What we need is a nationwide Electric and Telecom grid built by our government...one that is a different "superhighway" of sorts. One that would allow anyone access anywhere. Then you could buy electricity from anyone anywhere...or you could buy telecom (cable or internet) from anyone anywhere. Much much cheaper than ever before...cash grants have been given to some of these telecom companies to do this sort of thing for rural areas and the telecoms have taken the money and done nothing in return. absolutely zero...nada...they just took the money and gave the politicians platitudes in return. So...yeah.

I see a mental illness crisis that is the cause of the Homelessness much of the time. About 50% of the homeless are mentally ill the study suggests:

Homelessness and Mental Illness: A Challenge to Our Society

What is the prevalence of mental illness among people experiencing homelessness in the U.S.?

According to a 2015 assessment by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, 564,708 people were homeless on a given night in the United States. At a minimum, 140,000 or 25 percent of these people were seriously mentally ill, and 250,000 or 45 percent had any mental illness. By comparison, a 2016 study found that 4.2 percent of U.S. adults have been diagnosed with a serious mental illness.

 

[Pathfinder7]

OK...but there is a limit to what this will do. You can't force someone to be a productive member of society or stop being a leech either...or even be a reasonable individual. And housing for the homeless is as dumb an idea as any made. Its been tried many times without success. But there's nothing like making yet another lead balloon and seeing if

There's the story about a barber who started giving away haircuts or a shave for those in public service type roles...and those in public service all gave the barber a gift back that was worth much more than the haircuts and shaves he gave away for free...until the moment that a politician showed up and got a free shave...a dozen more politicians showed up the next day for a free shave and a haircut and no gift was ever given in return.

Politicians are there to justify their own existence and to "make a lasting legacy" of their "service". They talk a great game but few ever do anything that is actually beneficial to their constituents...and it is usually accidental when they do. The interstate system we have in America was one of the few good things that the Government actually created that helped America. People could travel and ship goods anywhere much easier than ever before. But it was created for the military.

National Parks is almost a wash...just saying. It's benefits are almost a wash but it is to the good side in many ways. So...I'll claim that it is a good thing.
Busting up "Ma Bell" was another good thing...it has spurred the growth of the internet. They weren't going to do it even though they knew about it. Nobody else had access they way they did either. Nowadays...its a free for all...and we get the savings...mostly. Some areas are still tightly controlled and other companies are roadblocked from entering...those people pay handsomely for such things. (I'm in one of those areas) And politicians make all kinds of backroom, lefthanded deals out of keeping things this way.

What we need is a nationwide Electric and Telecom grid built by our government...one that is a different "superhighway" of sorts. One that would allow anyone access anywhere. Then you could buy electricity from anyone anywhere...or you could buy telecom (cable or internet) from anyone anywhere. Much much cheaper than ever before...cash grants have been given to some of these telecom companies to do this sort of thing for rural areas and the telecoms have taken the money and done nothing in return. absolutely zero...nada...they just took the money and gave the politicians platitudes in return. So...yeah.

Good post.
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"Politicians are there to justify their own existence..."
"...but few ever do anything that is actually beneficial to their constituents.."
- I agree.
- That is my view of politicians...
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I find It interesting..
- Some people still believe..the politician's words/promise.
- Especially.. during the election time.
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From my experience/observation..
- Concerning.. 'politicians and politics/political arena.'
- From 1970's

 

[JohnDB]

I see a mental illness crisis that is the cause of the Homelessness much of the time. About 50% of the homeless are mentally ill the study suggests:

Homelessness and Mental Illness: A Challenge to Our Society

What is the prevalence of mental illness among people experiencing homelessness in the U.S.?

According to a 2015 assessment by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, 564,708 people were homeless on a given night in the United States. At a minimum, 140,000 or 25 percent of these people were seriously mentally ill, and 250,000 or 45 percent had any mental illness. By comparison, a 2016 study found that 4.2 percent of U.S. adults have been diagnosed with a serious mental illness.

Where this comes from is Richard Nixon...it's his fault... well the hippies as well as their lawyers.

I can explain.

When Nixon was president he decided that the government couldn't afford to keep people in the loony bin anymore. (Which were full of Bipolar people) They got turned out in droves on an unsuspecting society that had no idea how to figure out how to react to these people.
At the same time there was a growing narcotic problem with heroin and other drugs which when someone with bipolar disorder tries it is instantly addicting. Couple that with hypersexuality that is a common tendency with bipolar people...and you have a perfect storm created where the gene for bipolar becomes dominant in a culture.

And this is the main reason why the homeless population has exploded. Sure, many make extraordinary efforts to be sane and productive...but this is mental illness we are talking about here...they aren't necessarily going to be able to make good life altering decisions on a consistent basis.

So...since the laws are written the way they are...there's no way to stop them from procreating. Look at where we have gone as a result.

Where I'm not exactly a fan of eugenics. I am a fan of the stearalisation of those who know that they are going to pass on those genes on an unsuspecting society. They know this stuff...DNA analysis can be done quite easily...make it a tax break or something...but the excessive breeding of people who will become leeches on a society has to stop. California has become this homeless shanty town and reasonable people are leaving in droves. And bipolar disorder is the ultimate cause of most of it.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Where this comes from is Richard Nixon...it's his fault... well the hippies as well as their lawyers.

I can explain.

When Nixon was president he decided that the government couldn't afford to keep people in the loony bin anymore. (Which were full of Bipolar people) They got turned out in droves on an unsuspecting society that had no idea how to figure out how to react to these people.
At the same time there was a growing narcotic problem with heroin and other drugs which when someone with bipolar disorder tries it is instantly addicting. Couple that with hypersexuality that is a common tendency with bipolar people...and you have a perfect storm created where the gene for bipolar becomes dominant in a culture.

And this is the main reason why the homeless population has exploded. Sure, many make extraordinary efforts to be sane and productive...but this is mental illness we are talking about here...they aren't necessarily going to be able to make good life altering decisions on a consistent basis.

So...since the laws are written the way they are...there's no way to stop them from procreating. Look at where we have gone as a result.

Where I'm not exactly a fan of eugenics. I am a fan of the stearalisation of those who know that they are going to pass on those genes on an unsuspecting society. They know this stuff...DNA analysis can be done quite easily...make it a tax break or something...but the excessive breeding of people who will become leeches on a society has to stop. California has become this homeless shanty town and reasonable people are leaving in droves. And bipolar disorder is the ultimate cause of most of it.

Well I believe Jesus would want society to care for their disabled in it. It's societies responsibility. Disabled have rights too. In fact, to not care for them is close to Sodom and Gomorrah sins. And might be reason of destruction from God. Consider our pandemics.

And it appears to be a 10% chance of passing on bipolar disorder. If only one parent has it.

 

[JohnDB]

Well I believe Jesus would want society to care for their disabled in it. It's societies responsibility. Disabled have rights too. In fact, to not care for them is close to Sodom and Gomorrah sins. And might be reason of destruction from God. Consider our pandemics.

And it appears to be a 10% chance of passing on bipolar disorder. If only one parent has it.

More like 50%-60%.
And when both parents have it (as has been happening a lot) then you get juvenile/pediatric bipolar disorder when it used to only manifest after puberty. So now we have children needing bipolar meds.

And the dirty little secret about this is that if you treat juveniles that have bipolar disorder with ADHD medications they have a huge incidence of becoming famous for shootings and mass killings. I'm sure that you have heard stories in the news media about school shootings and other places...and that's the less known aspect of those cases.

 

[JohnDB]

And I do believe that we need to take care of these people...but we do need to stop the madness too.

 

[Raccoon1010]

More like 50%-60%.
And when both parents have it (as has been happening a lot) then you get juvenile/pediatric bipolar disorder when it used to only manifest after puberty. So now we have children needing bipolar meds.

And the dirty little secret about this is that if you treat juveniles that have bipolar disorder with ADHD medications they have a huge incidence of becoming famous for shootings and mass killings. I'm sure that you have heard stories in the news media about school shootings and other places...and that's the less known aspect of those cases.

Yes, mental health is a problem. But not only bipolar. Check this out:

COE - Students With Disabilities
In 2019–20, the number of students ages 3–21 who received special education services under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) was 7.3 million, or 14 percent of all public school students. Among students receiving special education services, the most common category of disability (33 percent) was specific learning disabilities.

The Christian question I have is: is this from the fact that we're all descendants of Adam and Eve and inbred too much. LOL a little ;)

 

[JohnDB]

I believe there about 6 Million Jews, might disagree with ya there!
Jez "add" a little 'ol racism, into yer explanation?
"Hey!" "Whadup Adolph?"

This has nothing to do with racism whatsoever...It hasn't been mentioned or inferred whatsoever....you are the sole person bringing this to the conversation.