BarneyFife
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Convincing is The Holy Spirit's job. We're just seed-sowers. :)I agree. How though? When society embraces the sin and says it’s ok and we, the minority says it will send you to hell, how do you convince someone?
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Convincing is The Holy Spirit's job. We're just seed-sowers. :)I agree. How though? When society embraces the sin and says it’s ok and we, the minority says it will send you to hell, how do you convince someone?
I pray for the day you realize that you don’t have to be perfect for God to love you @Holy999. He has to be perfect to love you!.............
Spare me the charismatic crap, and quote those scriptures of Jesus condemning the homosexuals to hell.
Are the Gospel writers more inspired than those who wrote epistles, prophecies, and the Torah?Spare me the charismatic crap, and quote those scriptures of Jesus condemning the homosexuals to hell.
I pray for the day you realize that you don’t have to be perfect for God to love you @Holy999. He has to be perfect to love you!
Sure, I wasn't aware that you actually wanted me to quote the word of God condemning homosexuality. Here are some:Spare me the charismatic crap, and quote those scriptures of Jesus condemning the homosexuals to hell.
The crazy thing is, the scripture you quoted from Romans, has nothing to do with homosexuality.
So that being said, this is what I refer to as taking the Lords name in vain, quoting scripture to use as a legalistic weapon to destroy those who are coming to God.
The fact is, He condemns only those who won’t receive Him in my opinion, and we have many here trying to convince those that would receive Him that they are not worthy.Are the Gospel writers more inspired than those who wrote epistles, prophecies, and the Torah?
Did Christ specifically condemn idolatry? If not, is it ok, then?
Wow the Ezekiel passage that says Sodoms sin was PRIDE takes a whole new meaning today.Sure, I wasn't aware that you actually wanted me to quote the word of God condemning homosexuality. Here are some:
Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
Sodom and Gomorah sought to have sex with the angels sent to Lot, they were homosexual, but the sin that the bible speaks of for their destruction was this:
Ezekiel 16:49-50 King James Version (KJV)
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
Jude 1:7-8
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh..."
Romans 1:26–27
That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.
Jesus's discussion of marriage
In Matthew 19 and parallel in Mark 10, Jesus is asked if a man can divorce his wife. In that context, Jesus replies:
He answered, "Have you not read that the one who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female', and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."
— Matthew 19:4–6 (NRSV)[52]
God help you,Sure, I wasn't aware that you actually wanted me to quote the word of God condemning homosexuality. Here are some:
Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
Sodom and Gomorah sought to have sex with the angels sent to Lot, they were homosexual, but the sin that the bible speaks of for their destruction was this:
Ezekiel 16:49-50 King James Version (KJV)
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
Jude 1:7-8
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh..."
Romans 1:26–27
That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.
Jesus's discussion of marriage
In Matthew 19 and parallel in Mark 10, Jesus is asked if a man can divorce his wife. In that context, Jesus replies:
He answered, "Have you not read that the one who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female', and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."
— Matthew 19:4–6 (NRSV)[52]
Well, at least we have your opinion on record. Thanks. :)The fact is, He condemns only those who won’t receive Him in my opinion, and we have many here trying to convince those that would receive Him that they are not worthy.
You really need to read and pray more.Wow the Ezekiel passage that says Sodoms sin was PRIDE takes a whole new meaning today.
Hey, not all opinions are the same, could be for you all that had to be done was to convince Jesus how wonderful you are and how much of favor he’d be doing Himself to accept you.Well, at least we have your opinion on record. Thanks. :)
What is the right amount and frequency of reading and praying, in your opinion?You really need to read and pray more.
Or not.Hey, not all opinions are the same, could be for you all that had to be done was to convince Jesus how wonderful you are and how much of favor he’d be doing Himself to accept you.
Revelation 11:8 KJVWow the Ezekiel passage that says Sodoms sin was PRIDE takes a whole new meaning today.
None of us are worthy, the point is that we must try to make ourselves worthy. God taught us what is right and what is wrong from the bible, We are not to ignore or make less those teachings and their value.The fact is, He condemns only those who won’t receive Him in my opinion, and we have many here trying to convince those that would receive Him that they are not worthy.
In reality, you're the only one questioning anyone's salvation. :)Hey, not all opinions are the same, could be for you all that had to be done was to convince Jesus how wonderful you are and how much of favor he’d be doing Himself to accept you.
We can never make ourselves worthy. We can only strive to conform to His will. And there is a difference. :)None of us are worthy, the point is that we must try to make ourselves worthy. God taught us what is right and what is wrong from the bible, We are not to ignore or make less those teachings and their value.
All you’ve quoted aside from the two from Leviticus are all in reference to apostate Israel defrauding their brother’s, and have nothing to do with homosexuality.Sure, I wasn't aware that you actually wanted me to quote the word of God condemning homosexuality. Here are some:
Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
Sodom and Gomorah sought to have sex with the angels sent to Lot, they were homosexual, but the sin that the bible speaks of for their destruction was this:
Ezekiel 16:49-50 King James Version (KJV)
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
Jude 1:7-8
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh..."
Romans 1:26–27
That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.
Jesus's discussion of marriage
In Matthew 19 and parallel in Mark 10, Jesus is asked if a man can divorce his wife. In that context, Jesus replies:
He answered, "Have you not read that the one who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female', and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."
— Matthew 19:4–6 (NRSV)[52]