Judeo-Christian Fallacy

[veteran]

How many of my Christian brethren have been suckered into using the "Judeo-Christian" term in your speech to refer to our belief on Christ Jesus Who shed His Blood upon the cross?

Think about it, for the word 'Judeo' refers to beliefs of Judaism, the root word coming from the tribe of Judah. Yet Judaism is NOT the source of Christian Doctrine! Instead, the religion of the Jews called Judaism is very much anti-Christian.

Judaism, is from what Apostle Paul called the "Jews' religion" in Galatians 1, what he left when Christ converted him. It involves the religious traditions of the Pharisees and Sadduccees, both Jewish groups that were violently against our Lord Jesus Christ and His Church. Those religious sects of the Jews had our Lord Jesus crucified, and tried to murder Apostle Paul after they saw he had become a Christian. That's why Paul had to appeal to Roman authority to escape the Jews' grasp who sought to execute him.

The "Jews' religion" started in the Babylonian captivity of the "house of Judah", a captivity by the king of Babylon Nebuchadnezzar of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi. The original Hebrew went into corruption then, their Hebrew letters changed, and they began to speak Aramaic more than Hebrew. It's also when they came up with their religious traditions that Jesus rebuked, and also their Babylonian Talmud philosophical sage writings, and Kabbalah system of esoteric Jewish mysticism. Basically, a lot of old Canaanite pagan doctrines crept in among the Jews' beliefs, which became the Pharisee and Sadduccee traditions of "leaven" doctrine added to the law of Moses.

Moreover, the tribe of Judah is only ONE tribe out of 13 tribes of Israel (counting Ephraim and Manasseh as separate tribes). They have traditionally claimed that they only (Jews) are God's chosen people of Israel, when that's a Jewish fallacy also. The only tribes that took that title of Jew were the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi, and those living in the land of Judea after a small remnant of them returned from the 70 years Babylon captivity (per Jewish historian Josephus).


Just as those Pharisee converts to Christ in Acts 15 were trying to lord it over Gentile believers back then, saying they had to get flesh circumcised to be under Christ Jesus, they still want to lord it over us Christians today. Accepting and using that false term Judeo-Christian is just another way they try to do that, because it fools the Biblically unlearned into thinking there's a connection with Judaism and Christianity when there is not.

 

[James Forthwright]

Agreed! The term "Judaeo-Christian" is an oxymoron and makes about as much sense as a "God-fearing-Atheist". The vast majority of 'those that call themselves Jews' (Rev. 2:9, Rev. 3:9) have no genetic lineage to Abraham, whatsover. They are (admittedly from their own writings) Askenazi Jews from Khazar-Turkish extraction and technically aren't even Semites. (Gen. 10:2-3)

And those Jews that do have some link to Abraham are actually Edomites related to Jacob's rebellious red-headed twin brother Esau, whom God hated (Gen. 25:25). The bloody infamous King Herod, The King of the Jews in Christ's time was of Edomite stock. The Reds (Communists), of which Jews always make a sizable and vocal portion, are still Christianity's most formidable enemy.

"The return from Babylon and the introduction of the Babylonian Talmud marked the end of Hebraism and the beginning of Judaism." --Rabbi Stephen S. Wise

"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call the modern day Jew, an Israelite or a Hebrew." --1980 Jewish Almanac, first chapter "Identity Crisis" compiled and edited by Richard Siegel and Carl Rheins (New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1980, p. 3

The Jewish Encyclopedia states: "EDOM IS IN MODERN JEWRY". (Jewish Encyclopedia 1925 edition Vol. 5 pg.41)

The Edomites are part of Jewry. The scientist and historian Dr. David Davison wrote "Indeed the Edomites came completely absorbed in Jewry." --Biblica Encyclopedia Vol.2 Column 1187

 

[veteran]

I definitely agree with those quotes. But I cannot agree that all who call theirselves by the title of Jew are non-Israelite foreigners.

The Jewish historian Josephus (100 A.D.), specifically said the title of 'Jew' began to first be used by the returning remnant from the 70 years Babylon captivity. He said all those who lived in the land around Jerusalem also took that name. Thus the name Jew, originally derived from the sole tribe of Judah, became applied to the small remnant of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi that returned to build the second temple, and it also became applied to any foreigner that returned with them, or living among them and in the their lands (see Ezra 2). It then became a title like New Yorker, simply for anyone born or living in New York.

The Khazar acceptance of Judaism as their state religion was a later history. When the king of Babylon conquered Jerusalem and took Judah captive to Babylon, the Edomites moved into the lands of Judea. John Hyrcanus later converted them to Judaism. Thus the Jews are a very mixed crowd today, made up of some of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi, and also some Edomites, and also some Canaanites (Nethinim foreigners of Ezra 2), even some Persians (Esther 8:17).

 

[James Forthwright]

We're mostly in agreement, Veteran. In the second sentence, I clearly stated that "the vast majority of. . .Jews" today have no claim to called Israelites. Those that are of the tribe of Judah make up a very small percentage of Jews, a miniscule portion of Sephardic Jews, and are treated as second-class citizens by the much larger and dominant Ashkenazi Jews.

The main point being, that there is quite a considerable number of Christians, that are daily being mis-led by false teachers like John Hagee, et. al, and Israel-First politicians (too numerous to mention) to believe that "those that call themselves Jews" (Rev. 2:9, Rev. 3:9) are the so-called "chosen people of God" and that we are somehow mandated to defend the modern illegitimate state called "Israel" at all costs. It is precisely this extremely dangerous fallacy that must be continally confronted and denounced, NOT as you are wont to do, of re-enforcing the claim that some small percentage of Jews are actually of the tribe of Judah. That's IMO straining for gnats while swallowing camels.

 

[veteran]

We're mostly in agreement, Veteran. In the second sentence, I clearly stated that "the vast majority of. . .Jews" today have no claim to called Israelites. Those that are of the tribe of Judah make up a very small percentage of Jews, a miniscule portion of Sephardic Jews, and are treated as second-class citizens by the much larger and dominant Ashkenazi Jews.

The main point being, that there is quite a considerable number of Christians, that are daily being mis-led by false teachers like John Hagee, et. al, and Israel-First politicians (too numerous to mention) to believe that "those that call themselves Jews" (Rev. 2:9, Rev. 3:9) are the so-called "chosen people of God" and that we are somehow mandated to defend the modern illegitimate state called "Israel" at all costs. It is precisely this extremely dangerous fallacy that must be continally confronted and denounced, NOT as you are wont to do, of re-enforcing the claim that some small percentage of Jews are actually of the tribe of Judah. That's IMO straining for gnats while swallowing camels.

I understand, but God's promise is in effect for the remaining remnant of the "house of Judah" in Jerusalem, and Jerusalem itself, even though they may be a minority there, and still deceived away from Christ Jesus. We can support the modern state of Israel for that small remnant's sake, and it doesn't have to mean bowing down to them, nor to the coming false one that's going to be presented to them in our near future.

 

[James Forthwright]

I understand, but God's promise is in effect for the remaining remnant of the "house of Judah" in Jerusalem, and Jerusalem itself, even though they may be a minority there, and still deceived away from Christ Jesus. We can support the modern state of Israel for that small remnant's sake, and it doesn't have to mean bowing down to them, nor to the coming false one that's going to be presented to them in our near future.

That all depends on what you mean by "support"? Does "support" mean that the U.S. and all of NATO are obiligated to continually be in a state of war for the next 50-100 years against all of the modern State of Israel's many enemies? Do you believe that we are obiligated to continue to give BILLIONS of dollars in foreign aid to Israel every year? Are you familiar with the attack this so-called allie perpetrated against the USS Liberty? Spying of Israel's agents against the US (Jonathan Pollard)?


"Why should we worry about Islamists commandeering airplanes when we have Israelis commandeering our entire government?" --Mary O'Brien


When Christ returns most of Jerusalem will be leveled by a giant earthquake (Rev. 11:13). As in Sodom, God in able to call the righteous remnant out of a doomed city before its destruction. Instead, what I await is the coming descent of the New Jerusalem, not attempting to fortify the vestiges of a largely enemy-occupied city that daily curses the Name of the Messiah. (Rev. 3:12, Rev. 21:2)

 

[veteran]

That all depends on what you mean by "support"? Does "support" mean that the U.S. and all of NATO are obiligated to continually be in a state of war for the next 50-100 years against all of the modern State of Israel's many enemies? Do you believe that we are obiligated to continue to give BILLIONS of dollars in foreign aid to Israel every year? Are you familiar with the attack this so-called allie perpetrated against the USS Liberty? Spying of Israel's agents against the US (Jonathan Pollard)?


"Why should we worry about Islamists commandeering airplanes when we have Israelis commandeering our entire government?" --Mary O'Brien

We still should support the state of Israel as an ally, and if we'd cut off the billions of dollars of foreign aid to Israel's enemies that fund radical Islam, and things like favored trade status with Communist China, what we give Israel would be just a drop in the bucket. God's promises to Israel include both the Israel in the west and the Israel in the middleast.

When Christ returns most of Jerusalem will be leveled by a giant earthquake (Rev. 11:13). As in Sodom, God in able to call the righteous remnant out of a doomed city before its destruction. Instead, what I await is the coming descent of the New Jerusalem, not attempting to fortify the vestiges of a largely enemy-occupied city that daily curses the Name of the Messiah. (Rev. 3:12, Rev. 21:2)

The reason that earthquake will occur there with Christ's coming is because of what's getting ready to happen in Jerusalem involving idol worship.

 

[James Forthwright]

We still should support the state of Israel as an ally, and if we'd cut off the billions of dollars of foreign aid to Israel's enemies that fund radical Islam, and things like favored trade status with Communist China, what we give Israel would be just a drop in the bucket.

I usually agree with the vast majority of your postings, Veteran. However, I did not know that you were an 'Israel-firster', so we'll have to agree to disagree on this issue. No where on this planet is 10 BILLON DOLLARS considered "a drop in the bucket". ALL US foreign aid should cease in my (and Ron Paul's) opinion at least until our economy is on a firm foundation.

You didn't answer a few of my previous questions (answer please):

1. Are you familiar with Israel's attack on the USS Liberty?

2. Do you think there is a need for "allies" spy on each other?

God's promises to Israel include both the Israel in the west and the Israel in the middleast.

God promises are only to "FAITHFUL" Israel. Not to those that contiunally deny that Jesus is Lord and the Promised Messiah of True Israel. God purposely cursed all the adult population of Israel (except Joshua & Caleb) to die in the wilderness and not to ever see the Promised Land. There is a vast difference between "those that call themselves Jews (Rev.2:9, Rev. 3:9) and the true descendants of Jacob-Israel.

The reason that earthquake will occur there with Christ's coming is because of what's getting ready to happen in Jerusalem involving idol worship.

Last time I checked, there was no resurrected Solomon's Temple on the mount of Jerusalem so such a prophecy could not be imminent. Your eschatological views could use some refinement.

 

[veteran]

I usually agree with the vast majority of your postings, Veteran. However, I did not know that you were an 'Israel-firster', so we'll have to agree to disagree on this issue. No where on this planet is 10 BILLON DOLLARS considered "a drop in the bucket". ALL US foreign aid should cease in my (and Ron Paul's) opinion at least until our economy is on a firm foundation.

I'm certainly not an "Israel-firster" as you say. Nor am I for cutting off all foreign aid to our allies. I am against giving foreign aid to Communist nations like Russia, Red China, and its allies. And that's really where Ron Paul's focus ought to mainly be.

You didn't answer a few of my previous questions (answer please):

1. Are you familiar with Israel's attack on the USS Liberty?

I'm famiiar with that claim. And per that claim, wasn't it for the purpose to draw the U.S. into war against radical Islam? Yet what events that happened on U.S. soil that actually were the real reasons for our war against Islamic terrorism? Do you think our reasons for going to war with Islamic terrorism was just in order to serve the state of Israel?

What I'm afraid you've yet to understand, is that radical Islam's target is not only the state of Israel, but the U.S. and also, the whole Christian west for that matter. Nor is it about U.S. support to Israel. It's because there's probably more Jews living in the Christian west than there are in the state of Israel. Don't you recall what radical Islam tried to do back around 700 A.D.? They tried to conquer Europe, Christian Europe. They conquered Constantiople centuries ago, which USED... to be a Christian state. So it's not only Jews they hate, but us Christians also. Their aim has always been to conquer the whole world. But so has Communism had that same aim, and the Communist International are supporting them. So this matter is a whole lot bigger than some bickering about foreign aid to the state of Israel.

2. Do you think there is a need for "allies" spy on each other?

You mean like how Europe does against us, and we them? It's between nations that are allies even, mostly corporate espionage. But the Communists are still spying on us today, and those should be a bigger concern than Israel.

God promises are only to "FAITHFUL" Israel. Not to those that contiunally deny that Jesus is Lord and the Promised Messiah of True Israel. God purposely cursed all the adult population of Israel (except Joshua & Caleb) to die in the wilderness and not to ever see the Promised Land. There is a vast difference between "those that call themselves Jews (Rev.2:9, Rev. 3:9) and the true descendants of Jacob-Israel.

That's where you reveal lack of Bible study of the OT prophets. God promised that He would always... leave one tribe in Jerusalem for His servant David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake. That's about the bigger battle against the devil's servants who want to take Jerusalem, the place on earth where God said He has chosen to dwell.

Last time I checked, there was no resurrected Solomon's Temple on the mount of Jerusalem so such a prophecy could not be imminent. Your eschatological views could use some refinement.

No rebuilt temple there... yet. But they already have all the materials ready to bulid another, even with many of the stones already cut and ready to be placed (Temple Mount Faithful group). The false messiah that's coming for the future tribulation involves another temple, because that's what's required for the "abomination of desolation" prophecy per the 7 signs of the end of this world which Jesus gave on the Mount of Olives. The Book of Revelation points to it also, in Rev.11.

 

[James Forthwright]

I'm certainly not an "Israel-firster" as you say.

Your lips say "No" but your posts demonstrably prove that you prefer Israel's interests over those
of the United States of America.

Nor am I for cutting off all foreign aid to our allies. I am against giving foreign aid to
Communist nations like Russia, Red China, and its allies. And that's really where Ron Paul's focus
ought to mainly be.

There are NO US treaties with the State of Israel, and they are one of the richest nations in the
Middle East, hence no reason to give them a plumb nickel of US taxpayer's money. Secondly, you
seem incensed at Communist countries (and probably rightly so), however, you seem totally
oblivious to the fact that Communism is/was the twisted brain-child of Jews
(Karl Marx, Trotsky, Lenin et.al). Leftist/Communist organizations still have a large
contingent of Jews in their ranks. Oh, and last I heard, Russia is officially
no longer "a Communist/socialist state". The current prison population of
the United States is larger than Soviet Russia's gulags at the height of it's
power.

I'm famiiar with that claim.

Claim? Claim, you say! Israel's broad daylight attack on the USS Liberty
is A DEPLORABLE HISTORICAL FACT. I find it quite disturbing that someone who
uses the screen name of "veteran" could be so flippant and casual about the deaths of
34 US crewmen! Israelie jets even strafed the lifeboats! Oh, you're an Israel-
firster, alright. An Israel-firster of the first degree!

"USS Liberty was attacked in international waters by Israeli forces on June 8, 1967, killing 34
Americans and wounding another 174. The Israeli attack has never been investigated by the US
government." http://www.gtr5.com/

And per that claim, wasn't it for the purpose to draw the U.S. into war against radical Islam?

Yes that was Israel's intent. So, are you actually saying that the "ends justifies the means"?
Israel was, once again, trying to get the US to fight THEIR BATTLES. How many times must
we fall for their 'false flag' operations?

Yet what events that happened on U.S. soil that actually were the real reasons for our war against
Islamic terrorism?

Do you really believe that 19 largely Saudi Arabs armed only with box cutters perpetrated 9/11?
There are literally hundreds of skyscrapers all over the world that have suffered large fires.
Yet, you don't find it strange that the only ones that ended up collapsing in their own footprint
occured on one day in N.Y.C. and one of the buildings (WTC#7) wasn't even hit by an aircraft
and there are recorded NYC firemen stating that there were only 'small fires' present in building
#7? And coincidentally, Larry Silverstein the Jewish landowner of the World Trade Center's
buildings just happened to have increased the insurance coverage on those structures a few
months prior to the attack.

Do you think our reasons for going to war with Islamic terrorism was just in order to serve the
state of Israel?

Largely, yes! (But also to preserve Big Oil's profit interests in the region, construct a pipeline
for Israel and secure the poppie fields of Afghanistan." Our govt is largely controlled by Israel-firster Jews and
their Judeo-Christian compliant stooges. The Mossad was most likely involved in setting up 9/11. In the video
below, one Israelie slips up during a live interview on Israelie TV that they were sent to
"document the event". (see video link below) Just how does one position themselves to properly document a
"surprise attack" before it takes place?

Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11
https://www.youtube....h?v=tRfhUezbKLw

What I'm afraid you've yet to understand, is that radical Islam's target is not only the state of
Israel, but the U.S. and also, the whole Christian west for that matter. Nor is it about U.S.
support to Israel. It's because there's probably more Jews living in the Christian west than there
are in the state of Israel. Don't you recall what radical Islam tried to do back around 700 A.D.?

They tried to conquer Europe, Christian Europe. They conquered Constantiople centuries ago, which
USED... to be a Christian state. So it's not only Jews they hate, but us Christians also. Their
aim has always been to conquer the whole world. But so has Communism had that same aim, and the
Communist International are supporting them. So this matter is a whole lot bigger than some
bickering about foreign aid to the state of Israel.

It is not my intent to minimize radical Islam's grand globalist schemes. They are, indeed, frightening.
However, radical Islamists do not dominate Western media outlets (Jews do.) Neither do Islamist
have the political clout of Israel's AIPAC. There are not many radical Arabs in the US Congress nor do they
comprise 1/3 of the Supreme Court. Islamists do not also dominate teetering US financial markets (Jews
do). It wasn't Islamists that negotiated for all the bank bailouts. Yes, you are correct, the problem IS much
larger than foreign aid to the state of Israel!

You mean like how Europe does against us, and we them? It's between nations that are allies even,
mostly corporate espionage. But the Communists are still spying on us today, and those should be a
bigger concern than Israel.

As previously mentioned, Communism is a Jewish invention. If you want to know who REALLY controls
any country? Just ask yourself whom it is you must never criticize? You should more concerned
with Jewish Communists in our own country than Iraqis, Afghans and Iranians thousands of miles
away. It wasn't Islamists that gave US nuclear bomb secrets to the Communists, but Ethel and
Julius Rosenberg.

That's where you reveal lack of Bible study of the OT prophets. God promised that He would
always... leave one tribe in Jerusalem for His servant David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake.
That's about the bigger battle against the devil's servants who want to take Jerusalem, the place
on earth where God said He has chosen to dwell.

Please supply substantiating scripture for the above.

No rebuilt temple there... yet. But they already have all the materials ready to build another,
even with many of the stones already cut and ready to be placed (Temple Mount Faithful group). The
false messiah that's coming for the future tribulation involves another temple, because that's
what's required for the "abomination of desolation" prophecy per the 7 signs of the end of this
world which Jesus gave on the Mount of Olives. The Book of Revelation points to it also, in
Rev.11.

Do you have any idea how long it would take to recreate Solomon's Temple? Oh, and by the way,
there's the nasty problem of an Islamic shrine called the Dome of the Rock that's been right smack
dab on the ancient Jewish temple grounds for the last 1,325 years! You saw how agitated the
Muslims got when someone simply burned a copy of the Koran. Can you imagine what the uproar will
be when the Jews destroy Islams third most holy shrine?

 

[veteran]

Your lips say "No" but your posts demonstrably prove that you prefer Israel's interests over those
of the United States of America.

That assumption is wrong. The reason I refuse to cast Israel away is because God has refused to cast them away. Haven't you understood what Paul taught in Romans 11 about those of Israel which God has blinded??? By your wanting to cast them off means you go contrary to God's Word about them.

There are NO US treaties with the State of Israel, and they are one of the richest nations in the
Middle East, hence no reason to give them a plumb nickel of US taxpayer's money. Secondly, you
seem incensed at Communist countries (and probably rightly so), however, you seem totally
oblivious to the fact that Communism is/was the twisted brain-child of Jews
(Karl Marx, Trotsky, Lenin et.al). Leftist/Communist organizations still have a large
contingent of Jews in their ranks. Oh, and last I heard, Russia is officially
no longer "a Communist/socialist state". The current prison population of
the United States is larger than Soviet Russia's gulags at the height of it's
power.

I'm aware how Communism has a connection with some Jews, but certainly not all of them. You appear to want to catagorize a whole people, instead of understanding about the idea of false Jews per our Lord Jesus in Rev.3:9. Didn't you understand our Lord's parable of the tares of the field?

Claim?

Claim, you say! Israel's broad daylight attack on the USS Liberty
is A DEPLORABLE HISTORICAL FACT. I find it quite disturbing that someone who
uses the screen name of "veteran" could be so flippant and casual about the deaths of
34 US crewmen! Israelie jets even strafed the lifeboats! Oh, you're an Israel-
firster, alright. An Israel-firster of the first degree!

"USS Liberty was attacked in international waters by Israeli forces on June 8, 1967, killing 34
Americans and wounding another 174. The Israeli attack has never been investigated by the US
government." http://www.gtr5.com/

Like I said, it still is a 'claim', even as that link admits, since the issue has still not been settled by U.S. authorities. I'm not necessarily denying that it didn't happen. There's enough evidence to suggest FDR well knew about the Japanese navy on the way to attack Pearl Harbor too, and that there was a U.S. plan to draw Japan into war with the U.S., so as to get Americans into WWII, and I do not deny that possibility either (see Day of Deceit evidence).

Yes that was Israel's intent. So, are you actually saying that the "ends justifies the means"?
Israel was, once again, trying to get the US to fight THEIR BATTLES. How many times must
we fall for their 'false flag' operations?

No, I'm not saying "the end justifies the means"! If you've truly read enough of of my writings here, you should well know where my stance as a U.S. veteran is. You sound like you hate all Jews, and blame all Jews for things like that, which is a wrong attitude. Our Lord Jesus did not point to all Jews as His enemies that wanted to destroy Him. He pointed to a specific group among... the Jews. That's what I do too, even showing proof of it in God's Word.

Do you really believe that 19 largely Saudi Arabs armed only with box cutters perpetrated 9/11?
There are literally hundreds of skyscrapers all over the world that have suffered large fires.
Yet, you don't find it strange that the only ones that ended up collapsing in their own footprint
occured on one day in N.Y.C. and one of the buildings (WTC#7) wasn't even hit by an aircraft
and there are recorded NYC firemen stating that there were only 'small fires' present in building
#7? And coincidentally, Larry Silverstein the Jewish landowner of the World Trade Center's
buildings just happened to have increased the insurance coverage on those structures a few
months prior to the attack.

I'm familiar with those claims of some within the U.S. being behind it too. If true, it's still not going to change a darn thing.

Largely, yes! (But also to preserve Big Oil's profit interests in the region, construct a pipeline
for Israel and secure the poppie fields of Afghanistan." Our govt is largely controlled by Israel-firster Jews and
their Judeo-Christian compliant stooges. The Mossad was most likely involved in setting up 9/11. In the video
below, one Israelie slips up during a live interview on Israelie TV that they were sent to
"document the event". (see video link below) Just how does one position themselves to properly document a
"surprise attack" before it takes place?

Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11
https://www.youtube....h?v=tRfhUezbKLw

they probably did know about it. it's still not going to change how the end-time events are going to happen per God's Word, nor is it going to prevent God from protecting the nation of Israel as He promised He would for David's and Jerusalem's sake. You can go on about that kind of stuff all day long, and it's still not going to change God's promises per His Word, nor how the end of this world is going to play out per His Word. As for the 'big oil' thing, Communist Russia wants that oil just as much, and is willing to draw Islamic nations into war in order to secure it.

It is not my intent to minimize radical Islam's grand globalist schemes. They are, indeed, frightening.
However, radical Islamists do not dominate Western media outlets (Jews do.) Neither do Islamist
have the political clout of Israel's AIPAC. There are not many radical Arabs in the US Congress nor do they
comprise 1/3 of the Supreme Court. Islamists do not also dominate teetering US financial markets (Jews
do). It wasn't Islamists that negotiated for all the bank bailouts. Yes, you are correct, the problem IS much
larger than foreign aid to the state of Israel!

Doesn't stop the fact that radical Islam is being used against the Christian west, and by Communism. If you can find evidence of Jews linked to Communism's support of radical Isalm against the West, then you'll really have something.

As previously mentioned, Communism is a Jewish invention. If you want to know who REALLY controls
any country? Just ask yourself whom it is you must never criticize? You should more concerned
with Jewish Communists in our own country than Iraqis, Afghans and Iranians thousands of miles
away. It wasn't Islamists that gave US nuclear bomb secrets to the Communists, but Ethel and
Julius Rosenberg.

It's an invention of false Jews, crept in unawares, not all Judah. That's why we as Christians cannot go around critizing a whole people, simply because that kind of working does not involve all Jews. It's ludicrous to even think so. Oppenheimer had a Communist girlfriend, and her family were Communists. U.S. officials over the Los Alamos project knew about it too, and did nothing. So he could have been just as guilty, and he was the main scientific director of the whole project for the U.S. Army.

Please supply substantiating scripture for the above.

1 Kings 11 for starters.

Do you have any idea how long it would take to recreate Solomon's Temple? Oh, and by the way,
there's the nasty problem of an Islamic shrine called the Dome of the Rock that's been right smack
dab on the ancient Jewish temple grounds for the last 1,325 years! You saw how agitated the
Muslims got when someone simply burned a copy of the Koran. Can you imagine what the uproar will
be when the Jews destroy Islams third most holy shrine?

Who said they plan to build an exact pattern of Solomon's temple? Even the second temple was not equal to structure of Solomon's temple. Who said the Islamic mosque on the Temple Mount has to be destroyed for the Jews to build their temple? that's pretty much radical Islam inferring that. Christ's Olivet Discourse of Matt.24 and Mark 13 involve 7 signs for the end, and one of them is the setting up of the "abomination of desolation" which involves a Jewish temple, since that's what Jesus was pointing to with the "holy place", and Antiochus Epiphanes already served as a historical blueprint for it.

 

[James Forthwright]

I've grown weary contending with you, veteran. Let the readers of this thread come to their own conclusions as to which side of this discussion holds the most merit. You can have the last word. . .

Peace be with you! JF

 

[veteran]

I've grown weary contending with you, veteran. Let the readers of this thread come to their own conclusions as to which side of this discussion holds the most merit. You can have the last word. . .

Peace be with you! JF

OK, other acts which radical Islam has done against the U.S., like the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon, the U.S.S. Cole incident, etc., those cannot be arbitrarily assigned to Israel having a hand in it. Nor can radical Islam's first bombing attempt of the world trade center in 1993. The facts of how Russia and Red China have advisors serving in some Islamic nations, and supplies them with military weapons and training, is also too large an event to let go unnoticed. The real fact is that the Christian nations are at war with radical Islam because their religious interpretations are not one of peace, but one of world-conquest, the very same radical religious interpretatons they had back in the 6th century A.D. when they first attacked Christian nations of Asia Minor and Europe.