Joel Osteen is extraordinarily amazing!
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BarneyFife
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Bob Estey
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Bob Estey
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I thought Billy Graham was pretty good. I liked Jimmy Swaggart - and then he got himself into trouble.
BarneyFife
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@Bob Estey
H.M.S. Richards Sr is excellent, but you'd probably want to skip over some of the music.
Joe Crews is pretty good and only 10 minutes or so per program.
They're on YouTube:
Joe Crews - Classic Radio Sermons
The Voice of Prophecy (50's Radio) H.M.S. Richards Sr.
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H.M.S. Richards Sr is excellent, but you'd probably want to skip over some of the music.
Joe Crews is pretty good and only 10 minutes or so per program.
They're on YouTube:
Joe Crews - Classic Radio Sermons
The Voice of Prophecy (50's Radio) H.M.S. Richards Sr.
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Bob Estey
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Why would I do that? You can see anything I post anyway as can anyone else one the board.
No, I don't work in law enforcement.
God's Word has some very stern warning concerning those that speak prophecies and words of knowledge that do not come to pass... turn out, that's how we know when someone is a false prophet is when their predictions don't come to pass.
Deuteronomy 18:21,22
And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Jeremiah 23:16
Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord.
Jeremiah 14:14
And the Lord said to me: “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I did not send them, nor did I command them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a lying vision, worthless divination, and the deceit of their own minds.
Ezekiel 22:28
And her prophets have smeared whitewash for them, seeing false visions and divining lies for them, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord God,’ when the Lord has not spoken.
Jeremiah 23:21
“I did not send the prophets, yet they ran; I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied.
Jeremiah 5:30-31
An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land: the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes?
It's documented the Ellen G White has made numerous predictions she claimed where revealed to he by the Lord that did not come to pass.
Sorry broman, but this is not slander... this is rightly pointing out a false prophet so others can know about it and not follow the teachings of Ellen G White since she's a proven false prophet.
Besides, according to the New Testament... women are not used by the Lord as deacons, pastors or church leaders so she does not qualify to lead any Christian denomination, besides the false predictions which also disqualify her from ministry.
You know, it's very dangerous hold any person in such high esteem whether it be Ellen G White or any other man or woman who claims to be speaking for the Lord and feeding His sheep.
Well that's a big red flag!
WHY are they going by extra biblical writings rather than going by God's Word?
Lambano
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I've never watched or listened to Mr. Osteen (and I ain't gonna start now), but a friend of mine watches him religiously. (Pun intended.) I will say this: When my friend called in asking for prayer when her mother died, and again when she was diagnosed with breast cancer, his organization prayed for her and followed up later to see how she was doing.
Debp
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You might like Dr. Colin Smith of Open The Bible.... he's very good.
My cousin who suffered terribly with cancer and died after many years probably wouldn't have made it as long as she did without listening to the encouraging words of Osteen.
While he preaches only a certain type of message, it can be a great help to the suffering. He does tell them to find a Bible believing church.
Yeah, well good luck with that!
Most churches teach false doctrine these days and God's Word contains instructions to not associate with fake shepherds.
Gabriel _Arch
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A Humanist materialist prosperity
doctrine guru.
He is not a preacher. Neither he nor his father before him were,are.
He does not teach the Gospel. He does not talk about sin,redemption,baptism, or Hell, ever.
While his wife is far worse.
Joel Osteen,the smiling
The Gray's Victoria is referring to here made their own news after this. John Gray committed adultery.
His penance? He bought his betrayed wife a $200 thousand dollar Lamborghini.
Meanwhile Immanuel-Jesus walked everywhere he traveled during his ministry. Except that one time when he rode a donkey.
Gabriel _Arch
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Isn't that the guy on the orange pack of rolling papers
Didn't Zig Ziglar say he was a Christian too?
Rockerduck
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Yes, he claimed to be Christian, but his positive message takes away from the word of God. For instance, Person 1 says it looks like rain, Person 2 says think positive, it will not rain. God says my will not your will. It rains. Person 2 should have said "if God wills", it won't rain. Positive messages make man empowered; it is God who blesses whom he chooses.
BarneyFife
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So did I. He had an amazing grasp of the doctrine of common grace. :)
Have you ever read E.M. Bounds's works on prayer? Amazing.
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Bob Estey
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quietthinker
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which direction do you think is the right way.....and what does that mean to you anyway?
Uh huh, "understanding" such as these quotes?
In his book, Eternal Security, Stanley says
"Even if a believer for all practical purposes becomes an unbeliever, his salvation is not in jeopardy” (Chapter 10, p. 93)
“Christ will not deny an unbelieving Christian his or her salvation because to do so would be to deny Himself” (p. 94).
“Believers who lose or abandon their faith will retain their salvation, for God remains faithful” (p. 94)
He actually taught one can be a "gay christian" and still go to Heaven proving he is a false teacher!
Here's a video where you can see video of Charlies saying this (just a few minutes into the video)
In this video, Gnarly Charlie says he's proud of Andy and supports him after heresy charges
Can a Person Live a Life of Sin and Remain Saved?
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