Jesus YIELDED up his spirit

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You teach work based salvation...

Bye, bye, not wasting any more time going back and forth.
I taught the ways Jesus did, and we told to do the same, how do you think you would ever be able to show it as wrong.
 

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At least there is peace now..


Job 13:5 O that ye would altogether hold your peace! and it should be your wisdom.

Titus 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
 

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Romans 6:14-23

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14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 

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Sorry, you must be Born Again, then we are Gods spiritual children.

That is the Living word of God.

Everything is in Gods timing..including becoming Born Of The Spirit.
Born again cant believe in Christ by doing a different way. ( beljeve He did always the ways pleasing to the |Father)
 

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Work based.

Born Again are under grace.
There is this kind of grace too..

Hebrews 12:15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
 

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At least there is peace now..


Job 13:5 O that ye would altogether hold your peace! and it should be your wisdom.

Titus 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
Can a demon open up the eyes of the blind?

21But others replied, “These are not the words of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”
 

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John 10
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Jesus the Good Shepherd
(Psalm 23:1–6; Ezekiel 34:11–24)
1“Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever does not enter the sheepfold by the gate, but climbs in some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2But the one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen for his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
4When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will flee from him because they do not recognize his voice.”
6Jesus spoke to them using this illustration, but they did not understand what He was telling them. 7So He said to them again, “Truly, truly, I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8All who came before Mea were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the gate. If anyone enters through Me, he will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture. 10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I have come that they may have life, and have it in all its fullness.
11I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.12The hired hand is not the shepherd, and the sheep are not his own. When he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf pounces on them and scatters the flock. 13The man runs away because he is a hired servant and is unconcerned for the sheep.
14I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me, 15just as the Father knows Me and I know the Father. And I lay down My life for the sheep.16I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd.
17The reason the Father loves Me is that I lay down My life in order to take it up again. 18No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from My Father.”
19Again there was division among the Jews because of Jesus’ message. 20Many of them said, “He is demon-possessed and insane. Why would you listen to Him?”
21But others replied, “These are not the words of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”
 

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Already addressed, we are just going round in circles...I don’t agree with any of your theology...you sound extremely confused...

Until you address the word that I have posted..I will not be answering any more of “ you” posts, they make no sense to me, goodbye.
Why should the cross make sense to anyone not able to acknowledge that is the love of God Christ abided in..


1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
 

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Bye, bye, not wasting any more time going back and forth.
Do you show stability not able to keep to your own words..


James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

2 Peter 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
 

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I think the Spirit is more true that a corrupt forum, and if this thread cant show it to anyone, too bad for all. ( the op cant keep to their words so what else do they do in secret)


Ephesians 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
 

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Spiritual Wisdom
…13And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 14 The natural mandoes not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them,because they are spiritually discerned.15The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment.
Did you not judge yourself, was it me saying you wont WASTE YOUR TIME BACK AND FORTH, but you judged your own words as incorrect.
 

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The Spirit is truth, no lie.


1 John 2:21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
 

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Did you not judge yourself, was it me saying you wont WASTE YOUR TIME BACK AND FORTH, but you judged your own words as incorrect.

2 Timothy 2:23-26​

23Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.
 

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OK, very good, you do this on the forum what else do you do away from it, if you are ever away from whatever it is you think you do on this and whatever forums you speak on.
 

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Jesus finished what was needed to get away from murderers, from envious people, from exalted betrayers, by dying, and those who show no death of the Lord Jesus in their words, have no actions either and show and live nothing of HIs life either.


2 Corinthians 4:10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
 

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We need to know the Living word of God, before we can start to understand His written word....we must receive the Spiritual rebirth/ Born Of The Spirit/ Spirit gives birth to spirit....Praise God.​

John 3:3​

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3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Dear readers, how distorted and twisted this testimony can be, when John 3:3, depict about except a man be born again, he cannot 'see' the Kingdom of GOD. There's no water and Holy Ghost mentioned in this verse 3, for in order to 'see' the Kingdom. But rather in the next verse 5, for in order to 'enter' the Kingdom is apparently mentioned.

This basically the first stage of being born again with the teachable anointing received from above, where one is able to 'see' by discipleship, the Kingdom of GOD(1John2:26&27). For it is written, 'For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of GOD: Not of works, lest any man should boast.'

When Jesus the Word of GOD became flesh, His every word one hears or read about, they are spirit and they are life in a person who 'see'. He is the very every living word of GOD, every word that proceeded out the mouth of GOD. When He proclaimed the Gospel of repentance, baptized people with water and likewise further disciple them about the Kingdom of GOD.

During Jesus was with the disciples, they did not nor could not receive the Holly Ghost for one. Even though then, they were still disciple by the orally spoken living words of Jesus, and they remained discipling with Him till the end. Again without the Holy Ghost, they basically were able to 'see' by the living words of Jesus in discipleship, the Kingdom of GOD.

For example, how did the disciples basically were able to 'see' the Kingdom of GOD without the Holy Ghost? When Jesus asked them who the Jews claim Him as, well Peter answered Him correctly, that, He is Christ, Son of the Living GOD. And Jesus responded to Peter, that he did not know this on his own, but the FATHER in Heaven have revealed this to him, period

To debunk 'counterfeits' and 'imposters', before baptism of water and of Spirit, i was likewise disciple in the written living words of GOD in the Holy Bible. Especially, HIS living words through HIS Son Lord Jesus Christ spoken to us in these last days in the New Testament. In the first stage, i was born again of GOD from above with the anointing in order to 'see' and perceive the Gospel of repentance and redemption, cum for a new person in Christ calling and forwarding as saved.

Then, i came to believe and in acceptance, by grace and through faith, to perform my repentance. And then in the next stage, i was born of water and of the Spirit in order to 'enter' the Kingdom of GOD as son in adoption. Therefore only now henceforth, the Holy Ghost is the 'Comforter' in me, among others who's the power which lead me into the full truth and ministry for the kingdom of GOD.

For it is written, 'All scripture is given by the inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of GOD may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.'

Even the commission Jesus gave His disciples, first to make disciples of all nation. Next, second to baptize them in the name of the FATHER, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.

For it is written, 'For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the Gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the Gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of GOD.'
 

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Dear readers, how distorted and twisted this testimony can be, when John 3:3, depict about except a man be born again, he cannot 'see' the Kingdom of GOD. There's no water and Holy Ghost mentioned in this verse 3, for in order to 'see' the Kingdom. But rather in the next verse 5, for in order to 'enter' the Kingdom is apparently mentioned.


This basically the first stage of being born again with the teachable anointing received from above, where one is able to 'see' by discipleship, the Kingdom of GOD(1John2:26&27). For it is written, 'For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of GOD: Not of works, lest any man should boast.'
Wrong, that is your own testimony,..there is no first stage of being Born Again ,just as Gods word says.

You have voiced your opinion of what “ you” believe the first stages of becoming Born Of The Spirit.

Therefore void of Gods truth,..Spirit gives birth to spirit...Born Of The Spirit...you never know the time or place..we are baptised in the Spirit, nowhere in Gods word does being Born Of The Spirit.is a first stage..,that is your “ own” which isn’t biblical.

When Jesus the Word of GOD became flesh, His every word one hears or read about, they are spirit and they are life in a person who 'see'. He is the very every living word of GOD, every word that proceeded out the mouth of GOD. When He proclaimed the Gospel of repentance, baptized people with water and likewise further disciple them about the Kingdom of GOD.

During Jesus was with the disciples, they did not nor could not receive the Holly Ghost for one. Even though then, they were still disciple by the orally spoken living words of Jesus, and they remained discipling with Him till the end. Again without the Holy Ghost, they basically were able to 'see' by the living words of Jesus in discipleship, the Kingdom of GOD.

For example, how did the disciples basically were able to 'see' the Kingdom of GOD without the Holy Ghost? When Jesus asked them who the Jews claim Him as, well Peter answered Him correctly, that, He is Christ, Son of the Living GOD. And Jesus responded to Peter, that he did not know this on his own, but the FATHER in Heaven have revealed this to him, period

To debunk 'counterfeits' and 'imposters', before baptism of water and of Spirit, i was likewise disciple in the written living words of GOD in the Holy Bible. Especially, HIS living words through HIS Son Lord Jesus Christ spoken to us in these last days in the New Testament. In the first stage, i was born again of GOD from above with the anointing in order to 'see' and perceive the Gospel of repentance and redemption, cum for a new person in Christ calling and forwarding as saved.

Then, i came to believe and in acceptance, by grace and through faith, to perform my repentance. And then in the next stage, i was born of water and of the Spirit in order to 'enter' the Kingdom of GOD as son in adoption. Therefore only now henceforth, the Holy Ghost is the 'Comforter' in me, among others who's the power which lead me into the full truth and ministry for the kingdom of GOD.

For it is written, 'All scripture is given by the inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of GOD may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.'

Even the commission Jesus gave His disciples, first to make disciples of all nation. Next, second to baptize them in the name of the FATHER, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.

For it is written, 'For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the Gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the Gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of GOD.'
The word of God is Alive and Active.

We are Born of the Living Spirit.

We are not Born of the Bible.

Our spirit becomes Born Again..unfortunately from reading your confusing posts, you think the Bible makes us Born Again, the written word of God backs up His Living word.

Big difference ,which as of yet, you have been unable to explain ?