It left me thinking......

[stunnedbygrace]

I searched the title of the article on EMS publishing website. Didn't pop up.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Okay, going to read it.

 

[Willie T]

I searched the title of the article on EMS publishing website. Didn't pop up.

Same here. It is odd that nothing seems to come up on it, anywhere.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Maybe there was a problem with copyright because of the title...

 

[Willie T]

Maybe I was sleep-walking one night and wrote it myself, but just don't remember. LOL

 

[bbyrd009]

That is a matter of perspective. Those that are in sin or teaching false doctrine will often accuse the one doing the correcting of judging. The one who is correcting, however, looks at it as an act of love to help restore the wayward sinner and/or protect innocent believers from adopting those false doctrines.

the one who is "correcting" is advised to pluck that cancerous Right Eye out and be looking to their own log i guess

 

[bbyrd009]

Maybe there was a problem with copyright because of the title...

well, been copywrited i guess, or someone is in trouble?

 

[Nancy]

I need to learn when to walk away from a discussion. It takes a lot to make me give one up. #stubborn?

Yeah, I hear that...there is at least one issue I have a hard time walking away from the discussion...I try but, yeah...stubborn in this

 

[Helen]

Maybe I was sleep-walking one night and wrote it myself, but just don't remember. LOL

Hahaha!! There you go....the anointed Pen!!!!

Keep at it.. LOL

we wish eh!

 

[Nancy]

Hahaha!! There you go....the anointed Pen!!!!

Keep at it.. LOL

we wish eh!

Ha, sleep writing

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

And yes, you are right...not a thing to be gained from arguing...Good post.

Jesus argued

Michael the arch angel argued, contending arguing with the devil, Jude 9;

Those "in the love of God .. have compassion, arguing" Jude 22;

The apostle(s) argued [diakrinoh]

Peter, "those of the circumcision contending with him .. rehearsed and expounded".

Apostles "argued / reasoned [dialegomai] from the Scriptures" Acts 17:2;

Paul "disputed in the Jews' church and in the market .. that they should seek the Lord" Acts 17:17;

"argued and persuaded Jews and Greeks" Acts 18:4;

"Paul argued / reasoned with the Jews and they desired him to tarry longer with them" Acts 18:19,20;

"three months disputing and persuading .. and this continued two years in the School of Tyrannus (Dictator / Teacher / Disputer of the Gospel--Paul!) so that all both Jews and Gentiles, heard the Word of the Lord Jesus." Acts 19:8-10;

"They neither found me disputing with any man ... BUT AFTER THE WAY which they call, Heresy, SO (arguing) WORSHIP I the GOD of my fathers" : Jesus Christ : BELIEVING all things WRITTEN IN THE LAW AND PROPHETS."

But you have the audacity to declare, <<not a thing to be gained from arguing>>. It's because you have NO SCRIPTURE.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Jesus argued

Michael the arch angel argued, contending arguing with the devil, Jude 9;

Those "in the love of God .. have compassion, arguing" Jude 22;

The apostle(s) argued [diakrinoh]

Peter, "those of the circumcision contending with him .. rehearsed and expounded".

Apostles "argued / reasoned [dialegomai] from the Scriptures" Acts 17:2;

Paul "disputed in the Jews' church and in the market .. that they should seek the Lord" Acts 17:17;

"argued and persuaded Jews and Greeks" Acts 18:4;

"Paul argued / reasoned with the Jews and they desired him to tarry longer with them" Acts 18:19,20;

"three months disputing and persuading .. and this continued two years in the School of Tyrannus (Dictator / Teacher / Disputer of the Gospel--Paul!) so that all both Jews and Gentiles, heard the Word of the Lord Jesus." Acts 19:8-10;

"They neither found me disputing with any man ... BUT AFTER THE WAY which they call, Heresy, SO (arguing) WORSHIP I the GOD of my fathers" : Jesus Christ : BELIEVING all things WRITTEN IN THE LAW AND PROPHETS."

But you have the audacity to declare, <<not a thing to be gained from arguing>>. It's because you have NO SCRIPTURE.

It's a dialectic. There are two sides to it. Never answer a fool according to his folly/ answer a fool according to his folly.

Before you have the audacity to declare the audacity of someone else, you should make sure you are seeing the balance.

 

[Nancy]

Jesus argued

Michael the arch angel argued, contending arguing with the devil, Jude 9;

Those "in the love of God .. have compassion, arguing" Jude 22;

The apostle(s) argued [diakrinoh]

Peter, "those of the circumcision contending with him .. rehearsed and expounded".

Apostles "argued / reasoned [dialegomai] from the Scriptures" Acts 17:2;

Paul "disputed in the Jews' church and in the market .. that they should seek the Lord" Acts 17:17;

"argued and persuaded Jews and Greeks" Acts 18:4;

"Paul argued / reasoned with the Jews and they desired him to tarry longer with them" Acts 18:19,20;

"three months disputing and persuading .. and this continued two years in the School of Tyrannus (Dictator / Teacher / Disputer of the Gospel--Paul!) so that all both Jews and Gentiles, heard the Word of the Lord Jesus." Acts 19:8-10;

"They neither found me disputing with any man ... BUT AFTER THE WAY which they call, Heresy, SO (arguing) WORSHIP I the GOD of my fathers" : Jesus Christ : BELIEVING all things WRITTEN IN THE LAW AND PROPHETS."

But you have the audacity to declare, <<not a thing to be gained from arguing>>. It's because you have NO SCRIPTURE.

"Reasoning" and "disputing" do not equal "arguing". How many "arguments" have you seen sway ANYBODY on here?
It seems that you are the audacious one here, in all your huffing and puffing over a simple meaning and "presuming" an awful lot about someone you don't know.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

"Reasoning" and "disputing" do not equal "arguing". How many "arguments" have you seen sway ANYBODY on here?
It seems that you are the audacious one here, in all your huffing and puffing over a simple meaning and "presuming" an awful lot about someone you don't know.

The SCRIPTURES give "Reasoning" and "disputing" and "arguing" <equal meaning>; they are 'authorised' KJV translations for the SAME Greek words, your presumptuous contrary arrogations despite.
And don't make YOUR unwillingness to be persuaded against or <swayed> away from YOUR audacious and proud opinion of yourself, the measure stick and LAW to chastise MANY other humble and true believers who have changed their haughty minds and hearts from deafness to obedience to TRUTH.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

It's a dialectic. There are two sides to it. Never answer a fool according to his folly/ answer a fool according to his folly.

Before you have the audacity to declare the audacity of someone else, you should make sure you are seeing the balance.

What <dialect>? Hahahahaha

No, you simply are <stunned> by a proud mind, devoid of grace BECAUSE you object ONLY to the SCRIPTURES presented and JUDGED the one who heeds the Scriptures, a <fool>.

GOD hears you, and reads you.

What's <it's a dialectic>? Hahahahaha. The Scriptures for you?

 

[Not me]

An interesting little book I just finished ended with these thoughts:

This book was not written attempting to convince everyone to follow a path of radical Christianity. However, for those being stirred or led to grow deeper in their faith, it can be a helpful resource to understand some of the difficulties that may be encountered.

Some may have been offended by the strong description of denominations. However, if we apply biblical measurement criteria (people becoming Christ-like) to churches, would there be any that could hold their head high?

It has been said that the two most productive areas in which to tell people about Jesus are hospitals and prisons. The two least productive areas might be country clubs and night clubs. Maturing in truth allows one to see past the superficial things of this world to things of eternal value.

There are endless “Christian” teachers who would tell you what you should do. However, Christianity is less about us doing and more about God working through us. The radical Christian is encouraged to grow in bible knowledge and discernment so that he can avoid the fruitless paths some would direct him towards, and rather be led by the Spirit of God.

Many, perhaps most, other Christians will not understand the desire of a radical Christian to dig deeper and draw nearer to God. Some may actively oppose your seeking and questioning. Nothing is to be gained from arguing with those who follow a different path. Rather those few you encounter who also seek are a rare and treasured encounter.

Jesus told Pilate that those who were “of the truth” would hear his voice. This is because Jesus is truth and his words are truth. This is the resonance that helps the radical Christian sift through all of that which is called “Christian” to find the occasional “nugget” of truth that he can retain.

Like a prospector, the radical Christian searches for that which is of value. He may scour books, videos, tape messages, sermons, or any source of teaching or exposition that would help him grow in understanding the bible and drawing nearer to God. As he matures, the radical Christian grows in discernment and can avoid taking in the “fool's gold” of that which is not of the truth or love. The time to seek the Lord is too precious to waste in arguments.

But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. — Titus 3:9

Many wars have been fought and lives lost as “Christians” have disputed regarding various doctrines over the centuries. While the radical Muslim may wish to kill those with whom he disagrees, the radical Christian rather seeks those from whom he can learn. If the reader has made it this far, he has probably gotten past a common Christian reflex of blasting anything with which he disagrees. This type of “bunker” mentality is common in those who have not matured. They often see allegiance to a group or brand as “faithfulness” rather than striving for Christlikeness. They may see themselves on the defensive or as Christian “warriors” to combat error. Sadly many Christians fall into the trap of self-righteousness. One of the symptoms of this condition is smugness and contempt for others.

And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: — Luke 18:9

In a way, one can see Christianity as under attack in the world today. However, the battle is the Lords, not ours. The goal of radical Christianity is to draw nearer our Lord and Savior, to be filled with the love and truth that is in Jesus, and having matured to bear fruit in service and ministry to others.

And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. — Jeremiah 29:13

Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. — John 15:8-9

This was quite good, thanks for the excellent read. So true,..Christ,..not about Christ.

Many blessings as we strive towards Christ,.....Not me

 

[stunnedbygrace]

What <dialect>? Hahahahaha

No, you simply are <stunned> by a proud mind, devoid of grace BECAUSE you object ONLY to the SCRIPTURES presented and JUDGED the one who heeds the Scriptures, a <fool>.

GOD hears you, and reads you.

What's <it's a dialectic>? Hahahahaha. The Scriptures for you?

You seem to me to be all about chiding and mocking, but maybe you do want dialogue and want to learn while helping others to learn, so I will try to explain.

The example I gave is one such place where opposing ideas are found in the bible - a verse says: never answer a fool in his folly. Another says: answer a fool in his folly.

A normal man will have the response of: ...huh?

Another one is: whatever you ask in my name I will do it. And the opposing verse is: you ask and don't receive because you ask with the wrong motive.

There are other verses that go into the last one too, like, you don't receive because you don't ask, but I was trying to keep it simple to show it more starkly.

You yourself have seen all of the arguments in here where one man picks a side and argues one set of verses and the other man picks the opposing verses. Both sets of verses are true and must be understood together or it comes out lopsided.

Nancy presented one side (never answer a fool in his folly). You presented the other side. Both sides must be understood together. Or some of what God says is ignored, by BOTH sides.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

You seem to me to be all about chiding and mocking, but maybe you do want dialogue and want to learn while helping others to learn, so I will try to explain.

You <help> nobody <to learn>; you want to show off with a big word.

Nothing here has anything to do with <seeing the balance> in <dialectics>. DUH!

You JUDGED me, <<Before you have the audacity to declare the audacity of someone else, you should make sure you are seeing the balance>> but I am the one who <<...have the audacity to declare the audacity of someone else>>.

DUH again!

 

[Episkopos]

A normal man will have the response of: ...huh?

DUH!

Actually, dialectic is not a big word...it is an accurate word. More accurate than say...duh! :)

 

[bbyrd009]

"Reasoning" and "disputing" do not equal "arguing".

hmm

How many "arguments" have you seen sway ANYBODY on here?

ha but how do we look to see, there, yeh? No respondents maybe have we "seen," right, but how many readers are swayed? Imo (you) are going to be one frustrated dude if you expect a respondent (who has a king, anyway) to bow to you lol