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God's nature, like I said. Anything that deviates from perfection is imperfect.
Exactly what he did with them like he told us to. He loved them to the point of death. He set the example for us.
The relevance is relative.
That's actually good advice. IMHO
If he created us imperfect, why are we being punished for his shoddy workmanship?
What is the purpose of vengeance?
This why I asked you: "What is the purpose of vengeance?"
He operates on the same standard he holds us to. And he has appointed a judge in our place. Then he will repay perfect justice on our behalf.
He didn't create us imperfect. Adam and Eve were without sin, but they freely chose to sin. Sin came into the world through Adam.
This world being imperfect doesn't mean that God is imperfect. Rather, this is just a temporary and imperfect place that leads to the perfect place. God could not create free creatures who didn't ever choose to sin given an infinite amount of time. He can't make a square circle. He can't contradict his own nature. However he did create a temporary place that allows evil to exist so that it could lead to a world where all of the creatures in it freely choose to love him and would continue to freely do so for all eternity.
How does justice take place on the cross?
That's a very deep question that I won't be able to answer fully. But Jesus takes the punishment we deserve. Similar to how you're in a court of law, if someone pays your fines for you, you're free to go. Jesus paid the fine on our behalf. The wages of sin (payment for sin) is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.
Jesus' atonement for our sins was of infinite value, as he is an infinite being, who emptied himself out into nothing (Philippians 2:7). So he doesn't need to spend an eternity in hell on our behalf. It was already paid in full through his sacrifice on the cross.
Adam and Eve did not freely choose to sin, they had to be deceived. A trap allowed by God.
Do children have the free will to receive love from their parents? Seems that parental love exists despite the will of the child.
Isn't this a religious construct? Did some (of their own free will) choose not to sin?
That is not justice. It's an apologetic to white wash an eternity in hell.
They had enough knowledge to trust in God. But they desired what God had told them not to, because they didn't trust him. Their distrust in God's promise was actually the first sin. Please watch this:
There are different types of love. If love was merely a feeling we couldn't possibly choose to love our enemies. The greek word agape (ἀγάπη) is the ultimate form of love. Self-sacrifice for the betterment of the other. That is a choice. And that is the ultimate form of love that God gave to us. "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends." - John 15:13
Because we have a conscience. A moral law written on our hearts given to us by God. We can either choose to obey it or reject it. We know that some choose not to sin because they have chosen to accept Christ. Yet we all stumble. The difference is repentance. Do you choose to continue sinning and enjoy it? Or do you hate the fact you sometimes stumble?
When you cheat on a spouse, they are completely justified in wanting eternal separation.
I don't see how that could be shown to be true. As I wrote before, they were deceived. They did not go looking for trouble. Trouble found them. And God didn't step in to protect them. What we would call bad parenting.
They were sinners before and continue to sin. The human condition.
Hey, if I'd first told them "don't play in the freeway", and they chose to anyway, that isn't my fault! And they wouldn't have had free will if the choice were not there. They indeed chose to trust the serpent whom they barely knew over the creator who had given them paradise. He literally couldn't have given them anything else without interfering with their free will!
They had the ability to sin yes, as do we all, and as does any truly free creature, but they weren't sinners until they chose to sin.
They had been given paradise? What did they have as a comparison? How would they know it was paradise? Compared to what?
Hey man, I don't need to eat a burger made of dog poop in order to know what a good burger tastes like. Light does not require dark to exist. Rather, darkness is the absence of light. C. S. Lewis also touched on this in Mere Christianity.
There's good reason to believe Adam and Eve knew what death was. They had to eat from a tree in order to live. They were to rule over all animal life. And animals were killing each other: Did Death Occur Before the Fall? - BioLogos
Had they?
If you were raised on dog poop burgers nothing else would taste as good. What's the comparative?
