Is it time for Christians to become more accepting towards muslims in politics?

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They moved there because islam wants to take over every country where islam exists. islam has no nation of its own, though they are predominate in the Arab nations. They take over through numbers and then rioting and getting their Shariah law established over them.

islam is an invading political/religious body. They cloak themselves as religion to come under a nations freedom to worship tolerance. But they are a political invading nation. The nations of the world are too stupid to see it.

Too bad Christians don't believe (Gen. 16:11-12) "And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael;...And he will be a wild man' his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren."

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Sure. Theocracy. But not even. They just use their religion as an excuse. You must know about Britain, and London. Muslim mayor, no-go zones, sharia law in full force. Ditto for Sweden.

I fear all of Europe might become Muslim. It surely is no longer Christian. I ponder what happened the last two generations.
Science is God.
Liberalism and socialism is accepted by the youth of the U.S.
My niece was arrested for taking part in Occupy Wallstreet.
3 years later and she's decided that she'd like to make money.
She likes to travel and be comfy. She realized it takes money to do this. So now she has two degrees, one in computers, one in finance.
She's a wiz.

We want to be nice and accept anything. That's the problem.
Chesterton said that the man who accepts everything, believes in nothing. Or close to that.

What are WE willing to fight for??
 

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Sure. Theocracy. But not even. They just use their religion as an excuse. You must know about Britain, and London. Muslim mayor, no-go zones, sharia law in full force. Ditto for Sweden.

I fear all of Europe might become Muslim. It surely is no longer Christian. I ponder what happened the last two generations.
Science is God.
Liberalism and socialism is accepted by the youth of the U.S.
My niece was arrested for taking part in Occupy Wallstreet.
3 years later and she's decided that she'd like to make money.
She likes to travel and be comfy. She realized it takes money to do this. So now she has two degrees, one in computers, one in finance.
She's a wiz.

We want to be nice and accept anything. That's the problem.
Chesterton said that the man who accepts everything, believes in nothing. Or close to that.

What are WE willing to fight for??

Yes, I agree. And the U.S. is becoming less and less Christian. It is my opinion that a true Christianity is a defense against islam. Not the pc Christianity that says we must love everyone no matter what and open our doors. The true Christian knows his God, his faith, and his obligation to fight his countries enemies and die if need be.

Survival will probably be the next motive for Europeans to fight. Fighting now means the loss of too much. But, once everything is taken, you have nothing to lose. Shame it has to go that far before people react.

But, do note that the anti-christ will be outwardly a friend of the Jews. And I believe the anti-christ will be European over a united Europe. Which would only mean he would not be liked by islam, if it still is around. Plus he will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem which could not happen with islam as it is now. So something must have happened to the muslim threat.

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It is my opinion that a true Christianity is a defense against islam.
nice, imo, but obv self-serving, and the trick might be to also recognize that true Islam is a defense against christianity too
both are true
Not the pc Christianity that says we must love everyone no matter what and open our doors.
oh that's the true one imo, but then one should not have to be opening those doors to neighbors they have treated their country with love either, huh
The true Christian knows his God, his faith, and his obligation to fight his countries enemies and die if need be.
the true Christian knows that he cannot serve two masters, but i never met any of those anyway so i wouldn't worry too much there either lol. Not making any claims for effect over here either lol. Cept maybe 'i am a hypocrite'
 
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Which would only mean he would not be liked by islam, if it still is around.
ha, be funny if it wasn't so sad i guess, Ishmael was made 12 nations to Isaac's 7 and you figure one of these...numbers will be wiped out, invalidated, somehow. completely negating one or the other symbologies? hmm
Plus he will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem which could not happen with islam as it is now. So something must have happened to the muslim threat.
the Muslim threat, narf, i mean c'mon S. Shouldn't you be giving that a rest and finding out where that temple is really being built?

Cuz i mean no physical temple that God cares about is ever going to be built again, right, i mean you need a hand with this concept or what, you tryna build a physical temple with Living Stones bro, just not gonna happen awright wadr
 

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John 14:27;
John 20:21;

I support the peace of God to all peoples of the Earth.
War in the world is not a Christian matter.
War of the soul is a Christian matter.

Sounds so 'spiritual'. But, it is a pseudo-spirituality.

Why do you support world peace if you are against war in the world? Both are of the world.

So, big deal. War of the soul is a Christian matter. But we were not talking about a war of the soul. Pay attention.

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bbyrd

You're just a muslim charading as a Christian. Go ahead and admit it. uenv

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I don't know. Why don't we? The U.S. government doesn't listen to my opinion. They do things for their own reasons. I was explaining to you why Iraq or any other muslim country is an enemy to the U.S. Thus no need to cry tears for Iraq. Does the U.S. agree with me? Of course not. If they did they would support Israel in getting rid of all the Palestinians, denying them any future country there.

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Good posts here. Not that I am biased. :)

I used to also wonder why Islam has moved into every country in the world where they can get in...then one day I listened to one of their Iams , Imans, or whatever they call their teachers...he cleared it up for me...he was saying - World wake up..we are doing Allah's will ..we are coming we will take over all your countries. The promise is to us-
Then he quote what was spoken to Joshua!!o_O
"Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as I said unto Moses."
So he explained that is why they come, to place their foot on our lands and justifiable take them in the name of Islam.

They are not going anywhere..they are 'on a mission'.
 

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Sounds so 'spiritual'. But, it is a pseudo-spirituality.

Why do you support world peace if you are against war in the world? Both are of the world.

So, big deal. War of the soul is a Christian matter. But we were not talking about a war of the soul. Pay attention.

Stranger
Let me rephrase it and see if that makes it better.
I support the Kingdom of God to all peoples of the Earth.
When the character of Christians is included in the title of the thread, it's time for Christians to stand up for what they believe in.
 
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I agree that so-called liberal Christians need to step away from the dark side and embrace Biblical Christianity, but I strongly disagree that we need to be more accepting of the adherents of a false religion in politics. That’s like inviting a horde of foxes into the chicken coop. Ill-advised to say the least.

Which side is the chicken coop, again?
 

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Then I too am mean and ugly also.
I don't read anywhere where God says join with those who hate and persecute you. OR 'become one of them.'
It says 44 " But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." That could include Hitler...but we were not told to tolerate or accept his "doings". If I had one...I could pray for and bless the murderer next door...but that does not mean I would trust him or tolerate what he is doing.

That is how I see this issue. We are fools if we allow the hornets to build a nest in our living rooms.

But Canada and the US welcome immigrants.....or used to
 

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Sure. Theocracy. But not even. They just use their religion as an excuse. You must know about Britain, and London. Muslim mayor, no-go zones, sharia law in full force. Ditto for Sweden.

I fear all of Europe might become Muslim. It surely is no longer Christian. I ponder what happened the last two generations.
Science is God.
Liberalism and socialism is accepted by the youth of the U.S.
My niece was arrested for taking part in Occupy Wallstreet.
3 years later and she's decided that she'd like to make money.
She likes to travel and be comfy. She realized it takes money to do this. So now she has two degrees, one in computers, one in finance.
She's a wiz.

We want to be nice and accept anything. That's the problem.
Chesterton said that the man who accepts everything, believes in nothing. Or close to that.

What are WE willing to fight for??

What is Sharia Law? Everything you need to know about the courts in C4’s Extremely British Muslims
 

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This thread is about how much conservative Christians verbally attack muslims in politics, and the funny part about it, is in today's day and age, there are many muslims who have more morals than Christians, which we saw displayed in the same-sex marriage postal vote in Australia, most of the electorates that voted no, were muslim areas, they may not have been majority muslim areas, but that's where most of the muslim population lives in Australia, so the point here is, we saw more Muslims defending real marriage more than Christians, and by looking at muslim countries around the world, they have better laws in protecting marriage, and i would think they got tougher abortion laws, or even might be illegal and euthanasia would be illegal in them countries as well, correct me if I'm wrong, I only really did a quick google search on Muslim's positions on euthanasia and abortion, but most us probably know that Muslims are strongly against homosexuality, but some of the Christian churches were split 50/50 on same sex marriage. Now the question here is, is it time that conservative Christian political movement stepped down their attack on Muslims? because they agree on a number of moral issues, which could increase their chances of getting into parliament and staying in parliament, and making the law tougher for immoral acts to be legalized, in countries which have not already been ruined with the rise of immorality. My thoughts are, I think it is time true conservative Christians became more accepting towards Muslims. Because more and more shallow Christians are falling for the extreme left and as a result these immoral laws get passed, hopefully i'm not offending anyone here, sorry if I am, but I am simply speaking the truth.



this is the part here of the OP that's the start of deception:
"funny part about it, is in today's day and age, there are many muslims who have more morals than Christians,"


hence justification for Christians to start adopting the world view on such matters. you know modernism the ancients are stupid and this generation knows so much more. its always the same garbage especially in the US were the general public interpretation of constitutional precepts take precedence over biblical ones. it stands to reason right? nope, no it don't, world precepts are not the standard for Christian precepts. the Christian in the US still has the right to publically disagree with any and all precepts of Islam and vote against anything Muslim accordingly. its a worship of an idol of Mahammad's god he found in the building they parade around in mecca. that hasn't changed and the Christian stand against pagan like worship of idols still remains the same.
 

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Let me rephrase it and see if that makes it better.
I support the Kingdom of God to all peoples of the Earth.
When the character of Christians is included in the title of the thread, it's time for Christians to stand up for what they believe in.

So what? I support the Kingdom of God also.

And, you never answered my question. Do you support the U.S. role in its war against isis?

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Good posts here. Not that I am biased. :)

I used to also wonder why Islam has moved into every country in the world where they can get in...then one day I listened to one of their Iams , Imans, or whatever they call their teachers...he cleared it up for me...he was saying - World wake up..we are doing Allah's will ..we are coming we will take over all your countries. The promise is to us-
Then he quote what was spoken to Joshua!!o_O
"Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as I said unto Moses."
So he explained that is why they come, to place their foot on our lands and justifiable take them in the name of Islam.

They are not going anywhere..they are 'on a mission'.

Exactly right. islam and muslims are the enemy. It doesn't matter how neighborly they may be or how good some think they are. Because they are islam they are the enemy. Their goal is to make all a subject of their Shariah law. Obey, obey, obey.

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Attacking or defending?
 

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