Is it time for Christians to become more accepting towards muslims in politics?

[Richard_oti]

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And as long as "Allah"
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The Arabic "Allah" is no different than the Greek "ton Theon".

 

[ScottA]

The Arabic "Allah" is no different than the Greek "ton Theon".

That would make it just like the difference between Jesus and Jesus.

 

[junobet]

That is all well and good during times of peace, and I agree and do likewise. But that is not what is currently going on.

And as long as "Allah" is the god of terrorists...we are not talking about the same god.

As I said: “Allah” is just the Arab word for “God”. Just like “Gott” is the German word for “God”. But you’ve got a point here: Members of the KKK may call themselves Christian and may call their God “God”, but I’m pretty sure that they don’t believe in the same one God that I believe in. So I can feel for Muslims around the world who keep condemning the terrorism carried out in the name of their religion by misled fools.

What’s currently going on is that there’s a lot of hatred-spilling war-mongers, be they calling themselves Christian or Muslim, and they spread a lot of fear that brings out the worst in people. The only thing Christians have to fear though is to be overcome by this way of thinking. This is what we should do instead:

"14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.a]'>[a] Do not be conceited.

17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”b]'>[b] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”c]'>[c]

21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."

(Romans 12:14-21)

 

[ScottA]

As I said: “Allah” is just the Arab word for “God”. Just like “Gott” is the German word for “God”. But you’ve got a point here: Members of the KKK may call themselves Christian and may call their God “God”, but I’m pretty sure that they don’t believe in the same one God that I believe in. So I can feel for Muslims around the world who keep condemning the terrorism carried out in the name of their religion by misled fools.

What’s currently going on is that there’s a lot of hatred-spilling war-mongers, be they calling themselves Christian or Muslim, and they spread a lot of fear that brings out the worst in people. The only thing Christians have to fear though is to be overcome by this way of thinking. This is what we should do instead:

"14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.a]'>[a] Do not be conceited.

17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”b]'>[b] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”c]'>[c]

21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."

(Romans 12:14-21)

That is pretty much the American way. But, that again is not what is currently going on or what is called for. Good people of God do not leave their families, nor their neighbors, to be victims of terrorism. And if there are really any Muslims condemning terrorism, they must be mute.

 

[Stranger]

As I said: “Allah” is just the Arab word for “God”. Just like “Gott” is the German word for “God”. But you’ve got a point here: Members of the KKK may call themselves Christian and may call their God “God”, but I’m pretty sure that they don’t believe in the same one God that I believe in. So I can feel for Muslims around the world who keep condemning the terrorism carried out in the name of their religion by misled fools.

What’s currently going on is that there’s a lot of hatred-spilling war-mongers, be they calling themselves Christian or Muslim, and they spread a lot of fear that brings out the worst in people. The only thing Christians have to fear though is to be overcome by this way of thinking. This is what we should do instead:

"14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.a]'>[a] Do not be conceited.

17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”b]'>[b] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”c]'>[c]

21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."

(Romans 12:14-21)

allah and God are not the same. God is the One who gave us the Bible. God is the One who sent His Son to die on the cross. God is the One who raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand. God is the One who gave all authority to Jesus Christ His Son, The Son.

allah is a little false god. A god of rocks worshiped by the Arab peoples in their days of ignorance, which they are still in. allah was chosen by muhammed the false prophet to be the god of the Arab peoples. He wanted a religion for the Arab peoples like he saw Chrisitianity was for the west, as he interpreted.

You agree then in quoting (Rom. 12) that islam is an enemy. muslims are an enemy. One can feed a muslim and still reject what they are. Just because I feed a muslim doesn't mean I embrace his false doctrine. One can have love for the lost, even the muslim, and bring the knowledge of Jesus Christ to them without embracing their false doctrine, without allowing them to maintain their false doctrine.

Stranger

 

[Helen]

Well and clearly said @ScottA and @Stranger.
Agree.

 

[junobet]

That is pretty much the American way. But, that again is not what is currently going on or what is called for. Good people of God do not leave their families, nor their neighbors, to be victims of terrorism. And if there are really any Muslims condemning terrorism, they must be mute.

You haven’t heard of Muslims condemning Islamic terrorism? Maybe this site can help you burst your filter bubble: Muslims Condemn

And it stands to reason that Muslims condemn it. Don’t forget most victims of Islamic terrorism are actually Muslim themselves. My new Muslim neighbours, who had to leave everything they owned behind when they fled ISIS, certainly condemn the atrocities that had half of their family killed. I praise God daily that their sweet children are now in a safe country where they can go to school without fear.

 

[Stranger]

You haven’t heard of Muslims condemning Islamic terrorism? Maybe this site can help you burst your filter bubble: Muslims Condemn

And it stands to reason that Muslims condemn it. Don’t forget most victims of Islamic terrorism are actually Muslim themselves. My new Muslim neighbours, who had to leave everything they owned behind when they fled ISIS, certainly condemn the atrocities that had half of their family killed. I praise God daily that their sweet children are now in a safe country where they can go to school without fear.

Since islam killed half of their family, why are they still muslim?

Because your neighbors are muslim they provide the seed bed for those who will grow into murderers and will murder European infidels. That's sweet, ain't it? Do you praise God for that also?

And, I just read where in Berlin, for the New Years celebration, they had to set up a safe zone for women due to the gangs of migrants. How sweet is that? What a contribution the migrants are making.

Stranger

 

[GodsGrace]

This thread is about how much conservative Christians verbally attack muslims in politics, and the funny part about it, is in today's day and age, there are many muslims who have more morals than Christians, which we saw displayed in the same-sex marriage postal vote in Australia, most of the electorates that voted no, were muslim areas, they may not have been majority muslim areas, but that's where most of the muslim population lives in Australia, so the point here is, we saw more Muslims defending real marriage more than Christians, and by looking at muslim countries around the world, they have better laws in protecting marriage, and i would think they got tougher abortion laws, or even might be illegal and euthanasia would be illegal in them countries as well, correct me if I'm wrong, I only really did a quick google search on Muslim's positions on euthanasia and abortion, but most us probably know that Muslims are strongly against homosexuality, but some of the Christian churches were split 50/50 on same sex marriage. Now the question here is, is it time that conservative Christian political movement stepped down their attack on Muslims? because they agree on a number of moral issues, which could increase their chances of getting into parliament and staying in parliament, and making the law tougher for immoral acts to be legalized, in countries which have not already been ruined with the rise of immorality. My thoughts are, I think it is time true conservative Christians became more accepting towards Muslims. Because more and more shallow Christians are falling for the extreme left and as a result these immoral laws get passed, hopefully i'm not offending anyone here, sorry if I am, but I am simply speaking the truth.

NO!
It's time THEY became more accepting of US and stopped chopping off heads.

Which is still going on BTW even though it's old news now.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

This bit of information from Wiki is not very good for Americans that complain about terrorism in this country.

Source Documented deaths from violence Time period
Iraq Body Count project 112,667–123,284 civilian deaths from violence. 174,000 civilian and combatant deaths March 2003 to March 2013
Classified Iraq War Logs 109,032 deaths including 66,081 civilian deaths. January 2004 to 2009

This is saying we invaded a country that was no threat to the US and have killed innocent civilians ever since.
Who are the terrorists here?
Us or them?

 

[GodsGrace]

This bit of information from Wiki is not very good for Americans that complain about terrorism in this country.

Source Documented deaths from violence Time period
Iraq Body Count project 112,667–123,284 civilian deaths from violence. 174,000 civilian and combatant deaths March 2003 to March 2013
Classified Iraq War Logs 109,032 deaths including 66,081 civilian deaths. January 2004 to 2009

This is saying we invaded a country that was no threat to the US and have killed innocent civilians ever since.
Who are the terrorists here?
Us or them?

Invading Iraq was a mistake.
To say the least.

 

[bbyrd009]

And as long as "Allah" is the god of terrorists...we are not talking about the same god.

ah, YHWH is the God Hitler claimed, just so you know. If they get to be Muslims, then he gets to be a Christian, see

 

[Stranger]

NO!
It's time THEY became more accepting of US and stopped chopping off heads.

Which is still going on BTW even though it's old news now.

They won't stop. Only solution is to rid them out of your country.

Good to see you back.

Stanger

 

[Stranger]

This bit of information from Wiki is not very good for Americans that complain about terrorism in this country.

Source Documented deaths from violence Time period
Iraq Body Count project 112,667–123,284 civilian deaths from violence. 174,000 civilian and combatant deaths March 2003 to March 2013
Classified Iraq War Logs 109,032 deaths including 66,081 civilian deaths. January 2004 to 2009

This is saying we invaded a country that was no threat to the US and have killed innocent civilians ever since.
Who are the terrorists here?
Us or them?

All muslim countries are a threat to the West, including the U.S. They all hate Israel. Given the opportunity they will turn on Israel in a heatbeat. They hate the U.S. because of our continued support for Israel.

Whether you confront them now or later you will confront them. Or else submit to allah.

Stranger

 

[GodsGrace]

They won't stop. Only solution is to rid them out of your country.

Good to see you back.

Stanger

Right.
They CANNOT assimilate. A father here killed his 18 year old daughter because she was dating an Italian boy. They LIVE HERE! Why did they move here, I ask myself.

If they want to keep to their laws and customes, they should just stay at home where all their friends are the same.

We have Albanians and Romanians here. They want to become Italian.
Their OK. I'm not a prejudiced person. I only pre-judge with Muslims, and is it any wonder? The ones who DO NOT practice their religion are the best ones. Precisely because they don't read the Quran.

(thanks)

 

[Stranger]

Right.
They CANNOT assimilate. A father here killed his 18 year old daughter because she was dating an Italian boy. They LIVE HERE! Why did they move here, I ask myself.

If they want to keep to their laws and customes, they should just stay at home where all their friends are the same.

We have Albanians and Romanians here. They want to become Italian.
Their OK. I'm not a prejudiced person. I only pre-judge with Muslims, and is it any wonder? The ones who DO NOT practice their religion are the best ones. Precisely because they don't read the Quran.

(thanks)

They moved there because islam wants to take over every country where islam exists. islam has no nation of its own, though they are predominate in the Arab nations. They take over through numbers and then rioting and getting their Shariah law established over them.

islam is an invading political/religious body. They cloak themselves as religion to come under a nations freedom to worship tolerance. But they are a political invading nation. The nations of the world are too stupid to see it.

Too bad Christians don't believe (Gen. 16:11-12) "And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael;...And he will be a wild man' his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren."

Stranger

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

All muslim countries are a threat to the West, including the U.S. They all hate Israel. Given the opportunity they will turn on Israel in a heatbeat. They hate the U.S. because of our continued support for Israel.

Whether you confront them now or later you will confront them. Or else submit to allah.

Stranger

The why don't we invade Saudi Arabia?

 

[Stranger]

The why don't we invade Saudi Arabia?

I don't know. Why don't we? The U.S. government doesn't listen to my opinion. They do things for their own reasons. I was explaining to you why Iraq or any other muslim country is an enemy to the U.S. Thus no need to cry tears for Iraq. Does the U.S. agree with me? Of course not. If they did they would support Israel in getting rid of all the Palestinians, denying them any future country there.

Stranger

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I don't know. Why don't we? The U.S. government doesn't listen to my opinion. They do things for their own reasons. I was explaining to you why Iraq or any other muslim country is an enemy to the U.S. Thus no need to cry tears for Iraq. Does the U.S. agree with me? Of course not. If they did they would support Israel in getting rid of all the Palestinians, denying them any future country there.

Stranger

That would not solve the problems.
God told the Jews to get rid of them, not the US.
Let Israel obey God.

 

[Stranger]

That would not solve the problems.
God told the Jews to get rid of them, not the US.
Let Israel obey God.

So you're against the U.S. supporting Israel? Are you against the U.S. war against isis?

Stranger