Is it a sin for a Christian to vote for a Democrat?

[Prayer Warrior]

However, the point I was attempting to convey in my post is that I'm turned off by the negativity I've experienced on this site

In this case, I suggest that you not read your own anti-Trump posts. I find them to be very negative.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Prayer Warrior, if you need some Troll Cream or Monkey Butt Powder I got some?

Not sure any kind of cream would work! Thanks for the offer, though.

 

[marks]

You might have misunderstood what marks is saying. I'm not sure.

I have already voted--according to my conscience. I wasn't sure how the polls would be in my area, so I voted absentee for the first time in my life. I just hope my vote is counted and not discarded. I have to trust God with that and this whole election!

It seemed to me @amigo de christo understood what I was saying.

Pres. Trump hasn't overstepped federal authority over states, with the riots, the shutdowns, the masks, whatever. He actively believes in the limitations of federal powers, proven by his actions.

Much love!

 

[JohnDB]

You have no case. Essential Liberty applies to Persons - and you have not shown that a zygote is a person.

The story of Simon the Cyrene is God's statement on the matter.
"The weight of sins from abortion are so great that even Jesus couldn't carry them" is the message that comes from that story...

So...

To me that means that a zygote is a human with a soul.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

It seemed to me @amigo de christo understood what I was saying.

Pres. Trump hasn't overstepped federal authority over states, with the riots, the shutdowns, the masks, whatever. He actively believes in the limitations of federal powers, proven by his actions.

Much love!

The reason I said that is because I misunderstood your post the first time I read it, but I thought it didn't sound like something you would say, so I went back and read it more carefully. What you're saying in this post is what I took your other post to mean when I reread it. Hope this makes sense. :)

 

[marks]

Christian socialism? I believe the article I posted has it right--that socialism is a form of communism, which is based on atheism.

The early Christians (in Acts) shared things in common, but I would't call this socialism or communism because obviously, the early Christians were not atheists. So, the term "Christian socialism" is an oxymoron.

I think we need to call Christian charity something else. How about Christian charity??

@Josho

The early Christians shared willingly, unlike socialism, which confiscates and redistributes, typically in uneven division, with an elite class receiving most, a politically favored class receiving perks, and the rest of everyone else.

Much love!

 

[Prayer Warrior]

@Josho

The early Christians shared willingly, unlike socialism, which confiscates and redistributes, typically in uneven division, with an elite class receiving most, a politically favored class receiving perks, and the rest of everyone else.

Much love!

This is a great point!

Sharing what we have through Christian charity is completely different from forced redistribution of wealth.

 

[Bobby Jo]

... I don't believe you.

BEST LINE OF THE DAY, -- and MOST ACCURATE! :)

Bobby Jo

 

[CadyandZoe]

You have no case. Essential Liberty applies to Persons - and you have not shown that a zygote is a person.

You responded "we don't know" and then went on to say that you would like law created on the basis of "we don't know otherwise" and have no problem forcing religious belief on others through physical violence.

For those that accept this position - Law justified on the basis of "we don't know otherwise" to force a woman to pass a large object through a small orifice - I suggest we send over Big Bob the Sodomizer once a week on the basis of - "we don't know that this will not do this person some good"

I suggest it would do these folks a great deal of good - as they would quickly learn how horrible the Justification "we don't know otherwise" is for Law.

Consider the human zygote. What will it become, a tree? Is that your view? Aren't we all getting tired of using language to justify the dehumanization of people? I am. A zygote is a fertilized egg. So why is it a woman's right to choose? How many people contributed to the formation of the baby?

When did childbirth become a medical procedure?
It takes a man and a woman to begin a pregnancy;
It takes a doctor and a woman to end one.
When did the healers become destroyers?

 

[Heyzeus]

The story of Simon the Cyrene is God's statement on the matter.
"The weight of sins from abortion are so great that even Jesus couldn't carry them" is the message that comes from that story...

So...

To me that means that a zygote is a human with a soul.

Do post scripture to back up claim por favor - and explain how this scripture backs your claim.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

When did the healers become destroyers?

Good question!

 

[Prayer Warrior]

You need some help with Heyzeus or Yehren, or whoever he says he is today, let me know.

Here ya go
FBI in possession of Hunter Biden's purported laptop, sources say

Thanks for the link.

 

[Heyzeus]

God has a case! His case matters, @Heyzeus !

God knows! It's not for humans to decide when life begins. This is God's area! He created life!

Now, you're just sounding unhinged and obscene.

You are the one sounding unhinged and obscene -- wanting to force personal religious beliefs on others through physical violence - so do not project your issues onto me por favor.

If God has a case then present it - so far you have failed from a religious perspective to make a coherent case.
From a secular perspective you have no case either ..

You don't know God's Stance on Abortion - did he sit down with you for tea the other day and explain to you when the soul arrives ?
Already you have admitted that you don't know .. and are just guessing.

Then you make the absurd statement "its not for humans to decide when life begins" - There is no "beginning" to life .. Life is a continuum..

And we are not talking about "Life" in general .. or "Human Life" in general .. a heart cell is just as alive and human as a zygote .. yet you don't seem to mind if one of those is killed .. or the numerous other cells.

We are talking about "the life of a human" note the noun usage once again .. as opposed to descriptive adjective.. and thus far .. you have failed horribly and making a case that a living human exists.

 

[JohnDB]

Do post scripture to back up claim por favor - and explain how this scripture backs your claim.

Simon was from Cyrene...
Cyrene was known for their production of an Abortifacient. Simon was employed at the very intersection of the spice market section of Old City Jerusalem. (Via De La Rosa or way of the cross)

All of this is searchable and known history...
Wikipedia covers this. I'm not sure what exactly you think is in doubt about this or what portion is debated in Christiandom.

 

[Heyzeus]

Consider the human zygote. What will it become, a tree? Is that your view? Aren't we all getting tired of using language to justify the dehumanization of people? I am. A zygote is a fertilized egg. So why is it a woman's right to choose? How many people contributed to the formation of the baby?

You area the one using language improperly .. and making fallacious arguments. Just because the sperm may go on to become a human .. does not make a sperm a human. You are conflating and confusing what might exist in the future - with what exists in the present.

Why is it not a woman's right to choose. The onus is not on the woman to justify taking ownership of her own bodily function away - the onus is on you to justify taking these rights away ..

You are wandering way off the Utilitarian abyss - and this is a very dark path you don't want to go down .. Utilitarian Justification for Law - unless of course you really despise essential liberty.

 

[Bobby Jo]

You need some help with Heyzeus or Yehren, or whoever he says he is today, let me know.
Here ya go
FBI in possession of Hunter Biden's purported laptop, sources say

... and apparently they've had it for since December of 2019, but haven't pursued prosecution of apparent Child Porn; Statutory Rape of a Minor; and failing to Register as a Foreign Agent which Manafort was sentenced to 73 months, --the "Justice Department CRIMINALS" selectively add "punishments" like not turning off the cell light and prohibiting the inmate from putting a cloth over his eyes, solitary confinement, etc.

I guess "Justice" is only applied to Conservatives, -- and ESPECIALLY Trump Supporters. :)
Bobby Jo

 

[Heyzeus]

The story of Simon the Cyrene is God's statement on the matter.
"The weight of sins from abortion are so great that even Jesus couldn't carry them" is the message that comes from that story...

So...

To me that means that a zygote is a human with a soul.

Your quote is not from the Bible .. What is in scripture however is God putting relatively little value on the Fetus

 

[Heart2Soul]

You are the one sounding unhinged and obscene -- wanting to force personal religious beliefs on others through physical violence - so do not project your issues onto me por favor.

If God has a case then present it - so far you have failed from a religious perspective to make a coherent case.
From a secular perspective you have no case either ..

You don't know God's Stance on Abortion - did he sit down with you for tea the other day and explain to you when the soul arrives ?
Already you have admitted that you don't know .. and are just guessing.

Then you make the absurd statement "its not for humans to decide when life begins" - There is no "beginning" to life .. Life is a continuum..

And we are not talking about "Life" in general .. or "Human Life" in general .. a heart cell is just as alive and human as a zygote .. yet you don't seem to mind if one of those is killed .. or the numerous other cells.

We are talking about "the life of a human" note the noun usage once again .. as opposed to descriptive adjective.. and thus far .. you have failed horribly and making a case that a living human exists.

Please keep the debate civil....and you don't know what God thinks either. No one knows
Isaiah 55
For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the Lord.
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways
And My thoughts than your thoughts.

Job 36:26

“Behold, God is exalted, and we do not know Him;
The number of His years is unsearchable.

Deuteronomy 29:29

“The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law.

Job 5:9
Who does great and unsearchable things,
Wonders without number.

Job 11:7
“Can you discover the depths of God?
Can you discover the limits of the Almighty?

Job 36:22-23
“Behold, God is exalted in His power;
Who is a teacher like Him?
“Who has appointed Him His way,
And who has said, ‘You have done wrong’?


Psalm 139:1-6
For the choir director. A Psalm of David.
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.
read more.
Proverbs 25:2
Verse Concepts
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

Isaiah 40:28
Verse Concepts
Do you not know? Have you not heard?
The Everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth
Does not become weary or tired.
His understanding is inscrutable.

Romans 11:33-34
Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways! For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who became His counselor?

Source: 13 Bible verses about God's Ways Beyond Human Understanding

 

[Heyzeus]

Simon was from Cyrene...
Cyrene was known for their production of an Abortifacient. Simon was employed at the very intersection of the spice market section of Old City Jerusalem. (Via De La Rosa or way of the cross)

All of this is searchable and known history...
Wikipedia covers this. I'm not sure what exactly you think is in doubt about this or what portion is debated in Christiandom.

Good then post from there - and include link..

 

[Grailhunter]

... and apparently they've had it for since December of 2019, but haven't pursued prosecution of apparent Child Porn; Statutory Rape of a Minor; and failing to Register as a Foreign Agent which Manafort was sentenced to 73 months, --the "Justice Department CRIMINALS" selectively add "punishments" like not turning off the cell light and prohibiting the inmate from putting a cloth over his eyes, solitary confinement, etc.

I guess "Justice" is only applied to Conservatives, -- and ESPECIALLY Trump Supporters. :)
Bobby Jo

What is the bigger story....the Biden's treasonous acts or the FBI having this laptop since December while going full throttle against the President of the United States.