Is it a sin for a Christian to vote for a Democrat?

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amigo de christo

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There was a time when the Democrats represented the people of America. However, the party has now been hi-jacked by socialists, globalists and those who promote wickedness. I hereby rename them DEMONRATS!
My best guess is huperetes wont be voting Biden Harris twenty twenty .
 
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Hi, Josho, I wouldn't mind answering your questions except that it seems you already have your answers, and you expect me to agree with them. I look at what you're complaining about, and it's such child's play compared to the serious issues the world is facing.

Let's put this in perspective. How can you think this is a serious matter when millions upon millions of babies are murdered worldwide each and every year? And millions upon millions of people starve to death because evil dictators won't allow food and supplies to reach these people. And millions are enslaved and sold like animals....... These injustices are worth our discussion.

Get real, my friend. If calling someone a "demonrat" can keep them from salvation, then what kind of a God do we serve? I can assure you that God wouldn't allow such a silly thing to cause a person to suffer eternal damnation.

So, if someone calls you a demonrat, and you find this offensive, tell the person you love them, and pray for them! This is what I have done.
He is under the mindset of sloppy evangelising . Leonard ravenhill does a good sermon on that one .
I hear it all the time sister . The only reason , and i repeat the ONLY reason that folks wont come to JESUS
IS , as JESUS said , They LOVE that sin , they love that darkness . SO they gonna make up every excuse .
GOD is in control . HE took me out of the pit , and i was worst than most .
WHEN i was drawn to GOD , i seen many things that were harsh and bad by folks . Folks could say some real serious warnings
about GOD as well . Never ran me off . IF a person dont come to GOD , rest assured its on them .
PS , BLM , BABIES LIVES MATTER . YES INDEED SISTER .
 

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I see Trump as behaving unconstitutionally like a tyrant.
Not me. He actually believes in the limitation of federal powers. He's taken a lot of criticism for not overstepping federal authority over states.

Biden has announced his plans to put back all the layers of taxation and regulation Trump rolled back. He'll put us back under the so called Paris Accord, which is more a wealth transfer than anything else.

Biden said that if the Governors didn't do what he told them, Biden would go to the counties, and whomever he had to in order to pressure compliance with his agendas. Did you hear that in his town hall last week? My jaw about hit the floor.

He's perfectly fine with mandating a vaccine. He is openly willing to "pack the supreme court" to get his way.

Much love!
 

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More than two people are running.

I just decided I'll be voting for Biden. I knew I couldn't vote for Trump, but I was also considering the Libertarian candidate. I found out more about what she stands for -- and I decided I thought Biden was probably better. I didn't check out the Green Party since I felt sure they'd be too far to the left for me.

As I've indicated, I'm starting to make up my mind about who I'll vote for too. I wonder if it will feel awkward voting for the Democratic nominee when I've voted 99% Republican in the presidential election. I voted Third Party in 2016, but I don't think our country can survive 4 more years of Donald Trump. I think it's vitally important to vote him out. FWIW, I like the activism and environmentalism platform of the Green Party.
 
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I think some women have abortions because they're worried. I knew a girl whose boyfriend went in jail when she was pregnant. She was thinking about having an abortion. She didn't want to, but she was very worried. I talked her into having the baby, moving in with me; and then her boyfriend did too after he got out of prison. I was there when she needed me -- the two of them broke up shortly after the baby was born, and then other friends of hers offered her a place to live so she moved in with them.
Does feeling worried justify killing a baby? No, not at all. If a woman is worried about unwanted pregnancy, she can always abstain.
 
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As I've indicated, I'm starting to make up my mind about who I'll vote for too. I wonder if it will feel awkward voting for the Democratic nominee when I've voted 99% Republican in the presidential election. I voted Third Party in 2016, but I don't think our country can survive 4 more years of Donald Trump. I think this particular election is far too crucial. FWIW, I like the activism and environmentalism platform of the Green Party.

LOL! I feel like I'm watching a play or something. Me thinks you place way too much importance on your feelings.
 

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He is under the mindset of sloppy evangelising . Leonard ravenhill does a good sermon on that one .
I hear it all the time sister . The only reason , and i repeat the ONLY reason that folks wont come to JESUS
IS , as JESUS said , They LOVE that sin , they love that darkness . SO they gonna make up every excuse .
GOD is in control . HE took me out of the pit , and i was worst than most .
WHEN i was drawn to GOD , i seen many things that were harsh and bad by folks . Folks could say some real serious warnings
about GOD as well . Never ran me off . IF a person dont come to GOD , rest assured its on them .
PS , BLM , BABIES LIVES MATTER . YES INDEED SISTER .
Never heard it called sloppy evangelizing before. That's good!
 

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Well then you make it to easy. Incoherent rambling. Doesn't murdering 8 millions babies in the last ten years constitute forcing someone's views or religion, on someone...someone innocent. Do you have a religion for murdering babies?

Does making our neighborhoods unsafe with the murderous mobs, does that constitute forcing someone's views or religion, on someone? Does that help our children?

Prosecuting people that defend themselves against murderous mobs, does that constitute forcing someone's views or religion, on someone.

Yes, there is a line drawn between good and evil during this election and a vote for any Democrat is vote for Satan, a vote for communism, a vote against this country and all that it stands for.

Go ahead, I want to hear more defense of Satan.

Oh wow .. so you figure the main rule on which the Teachings of Jesus are based is "Incoherent rambling" .. and from there the rest of your post while incoherent .. was disjointed rambling.

" murdering 8 million babies" - Those Satanists - "Communists" - methinks you have been deceived but first -

not a single point in your post addressed what was stated in my post - "forcing religious belief on others through physical violence" - I will just assume that you are ok with this when I refer to your position in the future .. unless corrected.

Communists ? - Who are communists .. how about we adjust your language a bit in hopes of making some sense our of what you are saying .. if someone is shouting "Commie" to you .. they are a deceiver - or a complete idiot. Libs may be what they may be .. but they are Not "Stalin"

So we adjust to "Socialism" of the quazi totalitarian form. Don't look for the next wave of totalitarianism to look like Stalin's Russia or Hitlers Germany .. cause it wont .. but will have similar features .. and you are clearly blind to some of these .. which I shall explain.

You are spouting a spoon fed perspective -narrative that you only understand superficially - and you are now spouting out this Political propaganda as if it has some relation to what Jesus would say .. and this is the question I ask myself .. in every instance like this one.

Socialism - at it core - is a form of wealth redistribution. It is not a black/white scale - the higher percent of ownership of resources/wealth and means of production .. the more extreme the version of socialism. Communism of course would be the most extreme .. where the state owns most everything ... but Communism also included an ideology and was a political system .. and so lets not conflate these two ... and be hyperbolic ..

"Especially when you are wanting to put words into the mouth of Jesus" - which is what you are doing - or coming close to doing - usurping the position of the Logos

So on the spectrum though Red vs Blue .. who is more extreme w/r to wealth redistribution ? I will leave it here and allow you to defend your claim - that Blue is way more extreme than red ... God vs Devil kind of extreme by comparison.

It is quite a bar you have set for yourself already .. so don't be too disappointed if you can't meet it .. but do at least show that Red is far better than blue in this respect.
 

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I was referring to charitable programs used in churches. These programs are funded with federal money. Like what @JohnDB is saying. You could probably do an internet search to find examples.

Yeah, I COMPLETELY MISSED your inference. -- Have you considered speaking more slowly and using smaller words FOR ME?!? ;)

You're exactly correct, and these BLACKMAIL attempts HAVE WORKED in various situations, especially in Universities and Hospitals. And it is a dangerous precedent to demand that Christian Bakeries serve GAY WEDDINGS; but Christian Hospitals cannot serve their community.

With Best Regards,
Bobby Jo
 
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... Red is far better than blue in this respect.

I guess that's why CNN won't broadcast anything good about Trump; but FOX allows multiple view points, sometimes to the frustrations of the viewing audience who is TIRED of the LIES.

Yep, Liberals are more loving and tolerant, -- that's why they're in the streets burning cities and murdering citizens.
Bobby Jo
 

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Yeah, I COMPLETELY MISSED your inference. -- Have you considered speaking more slowly and using smaller words FOR ME?!? ;)

You're exactly correct, and these BLACKMAIL attempts HAVE WORKED in various situations, especially in Universities and Hospitals. And it is a dangerous precedent to demand that Christian Bakeries serve GAY WEDDINGS; but Christian Hospitals cannot serve their community.

With Best Regards,
Bobby Jo
More slowly, lol! I....will.....try.....How.....is......this......?
 
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Socialism - at it core - is a form of wealth redistribution. It is not a black/white scale - the higher percent of ownership of resources/wealth and means of production .. the more extreme the version of socialism.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm rather fond of socialism myself. I enjoy going to the public library and I still use the U.S. Postal Service. I'm appreciative of the police and the fire department. I'm grateful for our troops and for military defense that helps protect our country. I'm thankful for the court system and the prison system that keeps dangerous criminals off the street. I'm grateful for the public roads and highways because driving down old dirt roads or county roads can be a pain in the behind sometimes. I'm also grateful for the garbage collection every week. I'm especially grateful for the sewer system in my house because using an outhouse is disgusting to me. As you can see, socialism isn't all that bad.

Socialism Is as American as Apple Pie

75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

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I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm rather fond of socialism myself. I enjoy going to the public library and I still use the U.S. Postal Service. I'm appreciative of the police and the fire department. I'm grateful for our troops and for military defense that helps protect our country. I'm thankful for the court system and the prison system that keeps dangerous criminals off the street. I'm grateful for the public roads and highways because driving down old dirt roads or county roads can be a pain in the behind sometimes. I'm also grateful for the garbage collection every week. I'm especially grateful for the sewer system in my house because using an outhouse is disgusting to me. As you can see, socialism isn't all that bad.

75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

Yes .. but the root issue here was the recital of a spoon fed propaganda narrative .. as it was near God's word -

I am not a fan of Wealth Redistribution .. more of a free market capitalist kind of fellow. But .. it is a necessary evil. Civil Society can not function .. not progress the way it has .. without wealth redistribution of some form.

but also .. there is an inherent fallacy here ... an assumed premise fallacy (no support given for claim) which turns out to be false.

Red are way bigger wealth redistributers than Blue since Reagan started spending money like a Princess with a Credit card. This is just a fiscal fact.

While there are other bars .. this one encompases all Gov't spending - which has to come from ??? da da daaaaaaa .. our Pocket .. and by this measure .. Red has been far worse than Blue .. running up massive deficits .. since Reagan.
 

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I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm rather fond of socialism myself. I enjoy going to the public library and I still use the U.S. Postal Service. I'm appreciative of the police and the fire department. I'm grateful for our troops and for military defense that helps protect our country. I'm thankful for the court system and the prison system that keeps dangerous criminals off the street. I'm grateful for the public roads and highways because driving down old dirt roads or county roads can be a pain in the behind sometimes. I'm also grateful for the garbage collection every week. I'm especially grateful for the sewer system in my house because using an outhouse is disgusting to me. As you can see, socialism isn't all that bad.

Socialism Is as American as Apple Pie

75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

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Ah, so you're a socialist! This explains your disdain for Trump!

Your rather large diagram is not an accurate picture of socialism. The U.S. has always provided certain government services like mail service, utilities and transportation, but this is not socialism.

The problem is that along with more government provision comes more government control!

People need to put their trust in God, not government!
 
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I guess that's why CNN won't broadcast anything good about Trump; but FOX allows multiple view points, sometimes to the frustrations of the viewing audience who is TIRED of the LIES.

Yep, Liberals are more loving and tolerant, -- that's why they're in the streets burning cities and murdering citizens.
Bobby Jo

I didn't say Red was far better .. you cherry picked a sentence fragment out of my post .. don't do that.

Agreed .. CNN/MSNBC are really bad Propaganda central for Blue ... Fox is only better because a Red President is in power. But CNN used to be more balanced .. no more. National enquirer of news.

That however does not address the issue at hand .. my post in any way .. the topic of which is wealth redistribution .. who is more .. who is less.

We can move on to murdering citizens once you show you are capable of addressing a single point from a post.
 

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Your rather large diagram is not accurate picture of socialism. The U.S. has always provided certain government services like mail service, utilities and transportation. It's true that the U.S. has been moving toward socialism for some time, but I don't see this as a good thing.

The problem is that along with more government provision comes more government control!

People need to put their trust in God, not government.
There is the "providing services" which is a part of any functional government, and then there is the wealth distribution and elitism that is a part of socialist governments.

Of course, we've got some of that elitism thing going on too. Just look at Nancy Pelosi!

Much love!
 

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= abortion.

Please do not respond with one word answers. Any donut can make a claim .. supporting that claim is a different matter.

Please explain why we should consider a single human cell .. "a person" from a secular perspective - as there is no valid scriptural support for your claim - but much support to the contrary position ..

The tell me when you figure the soul arrives - and don't forget the "why" .. and don't forget to say where the soul came from .. and where it will reside once it leaves the fleshy vessel ..
 

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10 Reasons Why You Should Reject Socialism

Why we must protect the family, private property and America from the dangers of socialism.

1. Socialism and communism are the same ideology

Communism is but an extreme form of socialism. From the ideological standpoint, there is no substantial difference between the two. In fact, the communist Soviet Union called itself the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (1922-1991) and communist China, Cuba and Vietnam define themselves as socialist nations.


2. Socialism violates personal freedom
Socialism seeks to eliminate "injustice" by transferring rights and responsibilities from individuals and families to the State. In the process, socialism actually creates injustice. It destroys true liberty: the freedom to decide all matters that lie within our own competence and to follow the course shown by our reason, within the laws of morality, including the dictates of justice and charity.

3. Socialism violates human nature
Socialism is anti-natural. It destroys personal initiative – a fruit of our intellect and free will – and replaces it with State control. It tends to totalitarianism, with its government and police repression, wherever it is implemented.

4. Socialism violates private property
Socialism calls for "redistributing the wealth" by taking from the "rich" to give to the poor. It imposes taxes that punish those who have been able to take greater advantage of their productive talents, capacity to work or thrift. It uses taxation to promote economic and social egalitarianism, a goal that will be fully achieved, according to The Communist Manifesto, with the "abolition of private property."

5. Socialism opposes traditional marriage
Socialism sees no moral reason for people to restrict sex to marriage, that is, to an indissoluble union between a man and a woman. Furthermore, socialism undermines private property, which Friedrich Engels, founder of modern socialism and communism along with Karl Marx, saw as the foundation of traditional marriage.

6. Socialism opposes parental rights in education
Socialism has the State, and not parents, control the education of children. Almost from birth, children are to be handed over to public institutions, where they will be taught what the State wants, regardless of parental views. Evolution must be taught. School prayer must be forbidden.

7. Socialism promotes radical equality
A supposed absolute equality among men is the fundamental assumption of socialism. Therefore, it sees any inequality as unjust in itself. Private employers are quickly portrayed as "exploiters" whose profits really belong to their employees. As a consequence, they rule out the system of wage earning.

8. Socialism promotes atheism
Belief in God, who unlike us is infinite, omnipotent and omniscient, clashes head-on with the principle of absolute equality. Socialism therefore rejects the spiritual, claiming that only matter exists. God, the soul, and the next life are illusions according to socialism.

9. Socialism promotes relativism
For socialism there are no absolute truths or revealed morals that establish standards of conduct that apply to everyone, everywhere, and always. Everything evolves, including right and wrong, good and evil. There is no place for the Ten Commandments, neither in the private mind nor in the public square.

10. Socialism mocks religion
According to Karl Marx, religion is "the opium of the people." Lenin, founder of the Soviet Union, agreed: "Religion is opium for the people. Religion is a sort of spiritual booze in which the slaves of capital drown their human image, their demand for a life more or less worthy of man."

May God protect America from socialism.

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