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Is the Universal Wave/Universal Observer/God a perfect circle if all possible paths of causality can be used to measure infinite measurements of a perfect circle?
 

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Maybe I didn't word the Free Will thing right:

God doesn't allow direct carnal proof of Himself because He wants Free Will to continue.
 

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We have an unobservable side to Quantum Mechanics because we relinquished our spiritual authority to a carnal tempter.

Renewed spirits can not see anything new because it would ruin Free Will for the unbelievers.
 
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The Free Will choice only works if you are free to ignore Christ. God can't allow direct proof of Himself.

The carnal mind only cares about God's physical creation ..not the spiritual ..God is Spirit.
 

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Before Jesus, Jews had to deal with relinquished spiritual authority, that is why their Covenant is of the Flesh. Christians renew our spirit with the Heart of the New Covenant and reclaim authority through Christ.
 

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Are you saying that if you have a carnal mind, and cannot find God, you will find Him with scientific evidence? Your carnal mind will not allow you to find Him if you have all the scientific evidence there is. Good luck.

I can tell y'all this!
Beings that the carnal mind is always "striving/rebelling/warring" against the Spirit?

That, should or when, the carnility that is within us all?
God will show one, that One TRUTH?
PROVES the Other!
THEN? The CHOICE is up to YOU!
CHOOSE LIFE!
NOT CARNILITY!
 

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The flood got rid of everyone that didn't have a spirit.

If they didn't have a spirit?..........What did everyone before the flood have?
And we are talking about Noah's flood, and not New Orleans after katrina right? :)
 

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If they didn't have a spirit?..........What did everyone before the flood have?
And we are talking about Noah's flood, and not New Orleans after katrina right? :)
Did God "create" humans in Creation Week with a regular soul but "form" Adam with a living soul? Does "living soul" mean a soul with a spirit? Was Adam the first man with a living soul and a law to follow? Does it explain where Cain's wife came from? How about this: "who was Cain so afraid of killing him when God sent him away?"

Could there be a difference between “breath of the spirit of life” (Genesis 7:22) and “living soul”?
 

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Did God "create" humans in Creation Week with a regular soul but "form" Adam with a living soul? Does "living soul" mean a soul with a spirit? Was Adam the first man with a living soul and a law to follow? Does it explain where Cain's wife came from? How about this: "who was Cain so afraid of killing him when God sent him away?"

Could there be a difference between “breath of the spirit of life” (Genesis 7:22) and “living soul”?

The soul that sins dies.

Mankind was created upright under the letter of the law “death”. Mankind must be born again with a new spirit not subject to death. Death and the daily suffering of hell on the last day will be cast into the judgment of God .In the new order it will not rise up and condemn a whole creation through corruption ever again. The second death . . . the death of death


Cain under the influence of the god of this world had no fear of God it is why he took Abel who did have a proper fear and buried Abel under as in "out of sight out of mind" (no faith the Pagan foundation) In his suffering because of the increased work load of suffering the pangs of hell he hoped he would die. But God is the one who determines the kind of death sentence. No electric chair or lethal injection for the first murder of the father of lies .A murderer from that beginning.

Cain became a restless wanderer unlike Abel yoked with Christ found rest with him making the suffering lighter.

The mark of the beast. 666. The mark of His word what he says will come to pass if any murder Cain before his time their suffering would increase also .
 

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There is no spirit without God's Law because Adam relinquished spiritual authority.
Void of righteous perception of reality.
Jews use the Law with flesh/blood.
Christians use the Law with heart/blood.
 
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God's Law is the same thing as a righteous spirit, which gives a different perception of this fallen reality.
 

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A dead spirit still works as your perception of reality but the connection to God is dead. It is relying on the tempter to function.

The Law causes righteousness which is the connection to God, spirit.
 

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Did God "create" humans in Creation Week with a regular soul but "form" Adam with a living soul? Does "living soul" mean a soul with a spirit? Was Adam the first man with a living soul and a law to follow? Does it explain where Cain's wife came from? How about this: "who was Cain so afraid of killing him when God sent him away?"

Could there be a difference between “breath of the spirit of life” (Genesis 7:22) and “living soul”?

In trying to answer yer first question? It can be read that on more then several occasions, when "scimming through begats" (which can be tedious, not to mention boring), that "so and so" sometimes, had sons and daughters before having (how can I say) one of note?
And, again, another "so and so" had sons and daughters after baring one of note!

In trying to explain "one of note?"
Especially, where and sometimes when something of a geographical and/or geological nature transpires, and/or when someone is, or does something of a Godly, and/or unGodly nature? (cain and abel, in this particular instance, who were twins by the way, in the serpents way of trying to cover up that which he did, much in the same manner Kind David did with Uriah), he "gets a name" synonymous with "the event." Sometimes? It is "nothing more(?)" then just carrying on in a Godly manner, or tradition.
This was HOW the "oral record" of God was passed on from generation to generation BEFORE God's Spirit would no longer STRIVE with "man's" spirit.

Meaning that it is quite plausible that certain items may have been forgotten, and/or deliberately mismanaged by "scribes", who were "sons of cain", also referred to as kenites.
An example would be? A "native" american being named "Jumping Deer." For something that was seen by his ma n pa. It is even quite plausible that a person could be given a name at birth, and then have his name changed!

Ain't that right Abram? ;) Jacob? :)

So? It remains quite plausible that Adam n Eve had a myriad of offspring decades and/or CENTURIES BEFORE the "garden of Eden incident!"

See? History can become quite condensed and compressed over the span of several thousand years from the "telling" to the "written."
And a lotta "details" can get tossed out, that may not have seemed so important at the time!

What was that you say "Council of Nicea?" :)

I might even venture out on a limb, so to speak, that there may have been actions deemed "militaristic" in nature by Paul and Barnabas, in accordance with:
Luk 22:36
36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Rom 13:
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Would it not seem reasonable that there is a duality that a Man of God, being equipped with the Sword of the Spirit, also be equipped with a sword on the hip?

And also be reasonable that the Spirit bade Paul not go to certain locales at certain times due to there being too many others baring swords on the hip that wouldn't see things the same way as Paul?

The writings of Paul or others concerning actions that may be deemed militaristic in nature, which were not deemed beneficial in the keeping of or retaining in the canon, is IMHO that which caused the wussification of Christianity!

Know what I mean Vern? :)




 
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Did the tempter convince himself that God wasn't real to become the beast? Jesus told satan about God the Father when He was being tempted in the desert ..but maybe he just ignored it like carnal atheists do.
 

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Was God's Breath into Adam ..The Law/Faith? Does that mean a spirit is a perception of reality that includes the spiritual?

Is satan the lowercase god of this world because our original dead spirit perception has to go through him? Did God give the Jews a way through the Law to handle it? Then the Law was written to our Hearts through Jesus. But we still have to deal with our reality filtering through the tempter until Judgement Day.
 

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All possible paths of the EM vector field are how quantum effects happen. It literally is superposition. It is the Universal Wave. All non-local waves are a part of it. It is the Universal Observer ..God. It is our connection to Him. It is Spirit. The Law/Faith cause this connection.
 

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Law/Faith is causing entanglement to the Universal Wave. It is our connection to the virtual side ..The Way out of the tempter's perception.
 

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sin is handing your spirit/perception over to death ..separation from God. The Law/Faith is about keeping you connected to God.