God and Jesus gave satan the power to temp us, but gave him nothing resembling any kind of uppercase or lowercase god.
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Light has the quality to pierce darkness and allow a fallen one to see God's kingdom, repent and come out of darkness and into the light.
Angels have free will for no other reason that they were given this gift from God and Jesus.
Yes the tempter has access to darkness and loves it more than light.
If the pre-beast is lucifer, yes, he was very close to God and Jesus and at one time worked for them. If the pre-beast is not lucifer, I don't know who you are talking about.
Is the false knowledge duality of wave(good) and particle(evil) the illusion we caused by giving the pre-beast authority? This gave us the ability to sin with: fallen time, wave collapse, locality, decoherence, entropy, and relativity.
The light is curious because the Holy Sword can pierce even the soul and spirit ..is it telling us the soul is darkness?
Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Why did humans require accessibility to the Tree of Knowledge for free will to be a thing ..but not angels?
The lie in the Garden is what allowed pre-satan to become our lowercase god.
Any religion that isn't Christian is worshiping the lowercase god we gave authority to.
Any religion that isn't Christian is worshiping the lowercase god we gave authority to.
Let it be, the will, and there was atoms and neutrons as rudiments of this world .We do not know Christ after the rudiment of this world after the philosphies of men. I heard it through the grape vine .
He canot be veiwed under a microscope or through a telescope .He holds all thing together by the commandment of his will to include gravity.On the last day the temporal corupotion time keepers will disapaer His glory wil be the light just as it was for the first three days.
Is Genesis talking about the introduction to Free Will with the separation/division of light and dark?
I would offer mankind gave over the free wil they were created with by violating the letter of the law death . Giving it over to one seen. No need to walk by faith .
You shall surely not die look at my beauty and live. In effect saying. . who belives in a unseen God. Free will acording to its designer is to do the wil of the Creator the food the discilpes at first knew not of .
Did pre-satan eat from the tree of knowledge first? Did he access darkness first and become carnal wise? Did he represent the tree?
Did Adam and Eve have the option to sin without the tree with Free Will, but they wouldn't have known it was evil so it wouldn't have counted?
Did Adam and Eve have the option to sin without the tree with Free Will, but they wouldn't have known it was evil so it wouldn't have counted?
The Jews don't acknowledge satan, he didn't have the title until the end of the OT. pre-satan was a lawyer for the hearts of man via our relinquished authority. he later fancied himself equal to God.
Free will according to the Creator is to do the will of the Creator .Mankind was not created without a will subject to death. It’s the kind of food the disciples knew not of the glorious will of God. Jesus our example said his food is to do the will of the father that worked in him to both reveal the will and finish it working as one .
Not the only idea but one I have been looking at. It is in reference to the glory of God who is Light and not only that he can create it but revealing light is the essence of Go .
1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
In that way his glory is a lamp unto our feet and a light unto our path.
I would suggest Lucifer as the bearer of light was the spirit that protected the glory of God. The beauty of creation before the fall, because of its beauty he desired to be in the place of God as the source. As in look at my beauty and live you will surely As in you will not die why trust the things unseen?
I think it has to do with the unseen glory of God before the fall when all was . . .glory, glory, glory .Lucifer was to reflect the glory not take ownership of it as the author of false pride.. And therefore rob God of his glory
1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Ezekiel 28:12-17 King James Version (KJV) Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Rather than protect the glory of God he attributed the work pride fully to his own self. . I will ascend to the clouds I will be like God..
Same stones are used as the covering to represent the glory of God used in the breastplate of Aaron, to signify the cloud of presence of God.
Day and night the first three day was performed by revealing his presence (glory) to represent day and hiding it to represent night or evil .The fourth day he switched on the temporal corruption time keepers the sun and the moon. On the last day the time keepers called under the Sun they will have run out of time and the same glory as in the first three days will come back into effect. Then there will be no night.
I would think at the end of three days he discovered false pride in Lucifer (three is used throughout to represent the end of a matter) is the time period God saw pride in Lucifer’s heart and God’s glory departed
Why didn't Genesis just tell us about two trees of a Free Will choice between Christ (Tree of Life/light) and carnal knowledge (tree of knowledge/darkness)?
Does the good in the tree of knowledge prevent us from becoming forsaken right away? Is the good our spirit even if it is dead? If the wicked keep their soul, does it represent evil after physical death?
Adam and Eve were the first humans given the Tree of Life as a spirit, but they caused the spirit to die when using the tree of knowledge/darkness/corruption.
Were there humans without sin and spirit before Adam and Eve? Does sin only count after there is a law to break? Was Adam the first man with a living soul and a law to follow? Would it mean found evolution bones don't mean anything anymore?
Were there humans without sin and spirit before Adam and Eve? Does sin only count after there is a law to break? Was Adam the first man with a living soul and a law to follow? Would it mean found evolution bones don't mean anything anymore?
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Jesus brought the same Free Will choice as the Garden into the Tree of Knowledge perception (our fallen reality).
If Jesus took care of original sin, does that mean He reclaimed the authority we gave to the tempter that temporarily became a lowercase god? Is this the core of Christ's victory over satan? Is this place still fallen, but satan is back to his tempter job?
We can't measure quantum waves in flight because this fallen reality can't acknowledge the spiritual. God is Spirit. If physics can't see it ..neither can carnal knowledge. Anything not real to us is virtual and can be infinite. The afterlife is infinite.
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