David in NJ
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PROPHECY = You will not see Me again until you say, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord."
This PROPHECY is also given in the OT Prophets beginning in Genesis
If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple.
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This PROPHECY is also given in the OT Prophets beginning in Genesis
One thing I learned...His coming is not how it is commonly thought. Jesus warned us ahead of time:
Luk 17:20-24
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.
For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
Mat 24:23-27
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Behold, I have told you before.
Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Chrysostomos
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Ecumenical Councils: At the First Council of Nicaea (325) and subsequent councils, such as the Council of Chalcedon (451), the Church affirmed that Jesus Christ is the sole Savior and that no other paths or figures can replace His role. Any attempts to assert otherwise were considered heresy.
Absolutely, sister. Those warnings from Jesus are essential — and they are more relevant now than ever. The deception He spoke of isn't just about some guy in a desert saying “I’m Christ.” It’s about an entire religious system, rooted in a rejected covenant, being resurrected by the very people who crucified the Messiah — and modern Christians helping build it, thinking they serve God.
The temple isn’t just coming — they’re building it right now. The red heifer, the priesthood, the “messiah” who denies Christ — it’s all unfolding.
This is why He said not to be deceived. Because it won’t look like evil. It’ll look like prophecy fulfilled, unity, peace… and then the Beast will walk in.
Thank you for reminding others to test all things. I’m simply pointing out what most pulpits refuse to say:
The throne of the Antichrist is being built with Church donations.
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Ritajanice
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There are Sisters on this forum...not just Brothers...Lizbeth is a Sister not a Brother.
Chrysostomos
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Middle Ages and Reformation: In the Middle Ages, the Catholic Church strictly monitored to prevent any ideas that contradicted the exclusive role of Christ in salvation. For example, certain Jewish or Islamic influences that might suggest alternative paths were condemned as a threat to Christian doctrine. During the Reformation, although Protestants and Catholics argued with each other, both camps agreed that salvation was possible only through faith in Christ (though they interpreted this differently).
Modern Heresies: In later times, for example, in the 19th–20th centuries, some liberal theological movements that proposed the idea of “universal salvation” or “multiple paths” (including Judaism) faced condemnation from conservative churches. For instance, certain trends in Protestantism or Catholicism that began to speak of “two covenants” (one for Jews and another for Christians) sparked heated debates. Although such ideas were not always officially declared heresy (especially after the Second Vatican Council), they met with serious resistance from traditionalists.
Unlike some liberal trends in Catholicism or Protestantism, the Orthodox Church still adheres to a strict position: salvation is possible only through Jesus Christ. For example, in documents adopted at the Pan-Orthodox Council on Crete in 2016, it is emphasized that the Church sees itself as the sole bearer of truth and the path to salvation.
The deception goes all the way back to the Council of Nicaea. Don’t let the polished language of “ecumenical unity” fool you. That council wasn’t just about affirming Christ's divinity—it was about consolidating Roman power and sanitizing the narrative.
They didn’t keep the Book of Enoch out of the Bible because it “wasn’t biblical.” They kept it out because it was too biblical—too raw, too revealing, too dangerous to the empire they were building in Christ’s name.
Let’s get real: How can any Christian with a straight face say it’s acceptable to remove the firsthand account of Adam & Eve’s great-great-grandson—a man who is also Noah’s great-grandfather? A man who WALKED WITH GOD. Not symbolically. Not in dreams. He physically walked with the Most High.
Moses didn’t even get that. Moses saw God’s back and got a burning bush. Enoch walked with God and was taken because he was too pure for the world. And we’re supposed to believe that his testimony doesn’t belong in the Book?
Nah. That’s not divine discernment—that’s a cover-up.
Why? Because Enoch exposes what really happened after Eden—the Watchers, the Nephilim, the corruption of bloodlines, the origin of evil systems that still rule the world today. The Book of Enoch rips the mask off the principalities and powers that Rome baptized and called “Church.”
And if the Church had told the truth back then? If the masses had known the real story of how the world was corrupted—and what spiritual war we’re truly in—we wouldn’t be staring down the barrel of WWIII right now. We wouldn’t have spiritually blind nations bowing to false chosen ones, building a Third Temple for the Antichrist with Church money.
God doesn’t want this.
This isn’t “just how prophecy goes.” This is the result of a 1700-year deception that began with silencing the prophets, erasing the Watchers, and replacing divine truth with imperial theology.
Jesus Christ is absolutely the only Savior. But the Church councils that followed Constantine didn’t protect that truth—they wrapped it in chains.
The war for truth didn’t end at Nicaea. It started there.
Bet your house that the Vatican knows that every word you just read is true.
I’d bet the Vatican’s priceless library—vaulted under 50 feet of Roman concrete—that every word of this is true.
The elites know why Enoch was banned. They know what the Watchers did. They know the real meaning of Revelation 2:9. They’ve built empires on that suppression.
Had the Book of Enoch been allowed into the Bible, I firmly believe 90% of the Western world would be devout Christians today—
Not lukewarm pew-warmers…
Not prosperity gospel parrots…
But warrior saints, fully awake to the spiritual war raging around them.
The Watchers would’ve been unmasked.
The Nephilim agenda exposed.
The true origins of evil understood.
And the modern false covenants and geopolitical blasphemies would’ve crumbled before they ever took root.
There would be no Zionist delusion.
No Christian dollars funding the throne of the Beast.
No mass apostasy disguised as revival.
The Book of Enoch was a spiritual firewall—and Rome tore it down.
Because they knew:
If the people understood what happened after Eden,
they would never bow to Caesar again.
And everything—everything—we're seeing now?
Would never have come to pass.
God help us. Because the elites leading the charge in this insanity… know exactly what they’re doing.
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Ritajanice
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Do you think that we are in the end times, Lizbeth?
How should we be prepared for his coming?......
Eternally Grateful
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Well, here is your first misunderstand and false truth. I am sure I will find many more
I take you to romans 11
THEY (Israel) Are hated because of the gospel - they are blinded in part. they believe and have rejected their messiah
They are beloved because of the promise, The gifts and calling of God are irrevocable
You see./ God gave them an eternal promise.
eternity has not ended yet )or at least this earth has not been destroyed yet) so the promise still stands.
Eternally Grateful
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get the word out. Evangelism should be priority, If things get as bad as we think they will. people need God now..
Ritajanice
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I agree brother. Even think this is all part of the strong delusion being sent by God....if it were possible even the elect would be deceived. The Lord showed me a very strong spiritual deception associated with this new temple....He caused me to feel what it will feel like.....it will "feel" like the Holy Spirit but is a counterfeit. I was at the "Toronto Blessing" back in the late nineties and that movement seemed to be the birthplace of Hebrew roots. Toronto Blessing was the same spirit that felt like the Holy Spirit.....although He was there in the beginning, but when the Holy Spirit was grieved and left, that movement was left with and given over to the counterfeit. It is hard to discern by "feeling" because they feel much the same, until/unless you learn the difference by experience and God grants the discernment. Just goes to show we cannot be led by our feelings. My past is littered with my mistakes, regretfully, but thankfully by God's grace, I have grown and learned from them, and all I can do now is try to help others not to step into the doo-doo that I did.
Well, regardless of whether anyone happens to be living in the final hours of history or not....He is coming for each soul at the end of each of our lives regardless. So being prepared for His coming is the same as being prepared for our death.....it's about our life, how we are living...living for Him, or living for self. The only safe place I know of is to be is on the narrow path, paying the price to follow Christ. That is the way of the cross. Being found IN Him at His coming....the cleft of the Rock.
Chrysostomos
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Let us divide our discussion into three key parts to clearly respond to your assertions and clarify my position. I hope this will help avoid misunderstandings.
1. Theological Aspect
At the First Council of Nicaea (325) and subsequent councils, such as the Council of Chalcedon (451), the Church affirmed the fundamental dogmatic principle: salvation is possible only through Jesus Christ. Any statement contrary to this is and remains heresy. This decision is based on Sacred Scripture, in particular, such texts as the Gospel of John (14:6) — “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” — and the Acts of the Apostles (4:12) — “And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” These councils, guided by the Holy Spirit and Tradition, established orthodox teaching, which remains unchanged for the Orthodox Church.
2. Regarding the Political Motives of These Councils
Your claim that the Councils of Nicaea and Chalcedon were motivated solely by the political interests of Rome and served to consolidate power is your personal interpretation. However, such an interpretation cannot refute or negate the theological dogmas established by these councils. Their decisions were aimed at protecting the truth about the nature of Christ and His role as the sole Savior, not at political manipulation, as you suggest. Discussing the political context of the 4th and 5th centuries (325 and 451) is possible, but it does not change the essence of the theological conclusions, which are based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, not on the temporary interests of the empire. Thus, the assertion that “Jesus Christ is the sole Savior and that no other paths or figures can replace His role” remains a theological principle, independent of political circumstances.
3. On the Book of Enoch and the Canon of Sacred Scripture
Regarding the Book of Enoch, you express concern about its exclusion from the biblical canon, accusing the Church of concealing the truth. However, it is important to understand the differences between the Orthodox and Protestant traditions. Unlike Protestants, the Orthodox Church does not have such a strict separation between Scripture and Tradition. We view them as inseparably linked and mutually complementary elements of divine revelation.
The Orthodox Bible includes 77 books, while the Protestant Bible includes only 66. The difference lies in the fact that the Orthodox Church accepts the so-called deuterocanonical (or second-canon) books, which Protestants consider apocrypha and excluded from their canon. These books, such as Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach, Baruch (including the Letter of Jeremiah), 1 and 2 Maccabees, additions to Esther (additional chapters to the Book of Esther), and additions to Daniel (for example, the story of Susanna, the Song of the Three Young Men, Bel and the Dragon), were part of the Septuagint — the Greek translation of the Old Testament used by the early Church and preserved in Orthodoxy.
Protestants, starting with the Reformation (Martin Luther and other reformers), adopted the Jewish canon of the Tanakh (39 books of the Old Testament), which was finalized by the end of the 1st century A.D. and did not include these deuterocanonical texts. The Orthodox and Catholic Churches, however, retained them as part of the canon, albeit with some differences in status.
Unlike Protestants, we Orthodox Christians did not adopt the Jewish canon and did not remove these 11 books from the Old Testament. Moreover, although the Book of Enoch was not included in the canon of Sacred Books, the Orthodox Church perceives it as part of Tradition, not rejecting it outright. We do not follow the Protestant logic, which, in an effort to align with the Jewish canon, excluded not only the Book of Enoch but also the deuterocanonical texts. For us, Tradition includes a wide range of texts, such as the lives of saints, interpretations by the Church Fathers, and apocrypha, including the Book of Enoch, which can be useful for spiritual enrichment but do not have the same dogmatic authority as canonical books.
Thus, I find your objections to me completely incomprehensible. We Orthodox Christians not only preserved a broader canon of the Bible but also honor Tradition, in which the Book of Enoch has its place, even if not as part of Scripture. Your accusations of “concealment” or “deception” fail to account for this important feature of our tradition, which differs from both the Protestant approach and your interpretation.
soberxp
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The Book of Enoch is hidden because it says that all people can be saved, but the believers are together, the unbelievers are together.
amigo de christo
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This is true dear sister . but now allow me one simple reminder for us all .
a mister cannot become a sister nor a sister a mister . that was for the transgender lies .
amigo de christo
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SPOT ON RIGHT my friend . Time to make our stand and contend for the true gospel
teaching all things HE said .
Time has run its course and a very rebellious people have grown only more rebellious and have led
the peoples right into a snare . into a love they claim is of GOD
but that love DO DENY HIS CHRIST and it do honor even sins and UNBELIEF .
IF any cometh and preaches ANY OTHER GOSPEL
WE DONT try and find common ground get along , NO SIR , LET HIM BE ACCURSED .
and interfaith all inclusive IS a fake sorry dead end lie that AINT NO GOSPEL and IT DENIES THE GOSPEL bodly .
Eat not with such a one . THE TIME NOW IS and HAS BEEN
to preach JESUS THE CHRIST , to get them people back into the bible for themselves to learn and to grow .
amigo de christo
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All unbelievers shall have their part in the LAKE that burns fiercly with fire .
ALL true believers will rejoice forever WITH HE WHO SAVED US .
But woe wail unto all who rejected . Many these days are fast falling in love
and its love has them mesmerized and growing only more in love ..............with the god who has come in HIS OWN NAME
and has even used the name of JESUS to spout its false big broad road love . This love
will overlook and even accept certain sins
and will holler bodly all religoins are okie dokey and serve the same GOD we do .
OH but its father is a liar . And the sheep will not heed its voice . The sheep follow and heed
ONLY ONE VOICE . THE GREAT SHEPARD OF THE SHEEP THE GLORIOUS KING JESUS .
amigo de christo
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To the trenches dear sister,
As you well wrote , WE simply cannot live by emotions . There be always a way that seems right to man
but the end be death .
Its why if we see a doo doo doctrine we do all to pull them out of that doctrine
and ensure none do step into its stink . Including i warn against them false poopers who do naught but poop
out doctrine to this people and call it bread
and offer up wee wee and call it lemonade . We better all be on guard for many wolves abound within even Christendom itself .
amigo de christo
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Beware the cisterns of men and their tables of dainty breads .
For within those cisterns lies bright golden waters
and upon their tables are scattered many chocolate colored breads .
But what they who do eat of and drink of those cisterns and those tables realize not
IS that aint golden cause its lemonade
and them breads aint brown cause its chocolate
but rather its the wee and dung doctrines of men that are rotted and foul
and have been shined up to look real nice and good .
But one sniff of them and the sheep are like NO WAY folks that is doo and that is wee and we no drinky that .
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