I was invited to a church

[thelord's_pearl]

Hi all, So 2 ladies walked up to me and one of them spoke to me about the Passover, something like that if you take the Passover, you will have eternal life. What is the Passover. I didn't quite understand her. Thanks a lot. She asked for my # and she said that she will call me.

 

[Nancy]

Hi all, So 2 ladies walked up to me and one of them spoke to me about the Passover, something like that if you take the Passover, you will have eternal life. What is the Passover. I didn't quite understand her. Thanks a lot. She asked for my # and she said that she will call me.

I just found this: Passover: The Way to Eternal Life

I think they teach that if we do not keep the "passover", you will not receive eternal life. Hmmm, I dunno enough about this church to make any real judgement one way or another. But, just the fact that this seems to be their main belief, I'd tread lightly...JM2C..

 

[thelord's_pearl]

Yeah I had the idea that they were talking about communion. Why do they call it Passover? I still would benefit from taking communion with them though.

 

[Ziggy]

Mat 26:19
And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.
Mat 26:26
And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
Mat 26:27
And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
Mat 26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Mat 26:29
But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

God was angry that Pharaoh in Egypt would not let his people go.
So he told the Hebrew to take sheep for each household, kill it and put the blood on the doorposts because God was going to send his angel through the country to slay all the firstborn. Those who did what he said escaped death, those that didn't lost their firstborn sons.
This is called the Passover, because Pharaoh refused to let God's people go.

God established the Passover meal while the children of Israel were being led through the wilderness for 40 years.
They were to keep it for all generations.

This Passover represented God's intervention of bringing his people out from under Pharaoh's oppressive Kingdom in Egypt.

On the night that Jesus would be turned over to the authorities, He was showing his disciples that He himself was the sheep which would be killed, and all those who believed in Him would be covered by his own blood sacrifice to represent being brought out of Sin into the Kingdom of God, freedom and redemption.

Some mostly Jewish religions as well as Seventh Day or Sabbath Day keepers, still keep this communion, in rememberance of His salvation of His people.
Some keep it yearly while others keep it weekly, some daily. There are a lot of interpetations as to whether we are to still keep it, seeing that Jesus sacrificed himself once for our sins, died and rose again to life the third day.

Apostle Paul says as often as we keep the passover we do show his death until he returns again.
Because Jesus rose from the dead on the first day of the week, many keep this communion on Sundays.

Hugs

 

[Enoch111]

Hi all, So 2 ladies walked up to me and one of them spoke to me about the Passover, something like that if you take the Passover, you will have eternal life. What is the Passover. I didn't quite understand her. Thanks a lot. She asked for my # and she said that she will call me.

Another bizarre teaching and another cult coming out of the woodwork. The Passover meal was celebrated annually on the 14th of Nisan (the first Hebrew month) to commemorate the departure of the Israelites from Egypt. But there was a deeper meaning to the Passover, since Christ -- our Passover Lamb -- would be sacrificed on that exact same day in AD 30. Indeed Christ is called "Our Passover". So there is no going back to the Jewish Passover, and celebrating it will never give you eternal life. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved".

 

[Ziggy]

There are also those that believe, as I do, that Jeus told us that His words that he spoke are the bread of life.
And his spirit is the fruit of the vine.

His Words and His Spirit are those which lead to eternal life in Him.
That as often as we eat his words, that is read about him, learn about him and believe what he says, and drink his spirit, that is to walk in newness of life bearing the fruit of his spirit within ourselves, we shall be saved.

The fruit of the vine or His spirit are these, Love, Joy, Peace, Longsuffering, Mercy, Goodness.... and others.

It is with this bread and this wine that we are transformed into the image of the Lord.
And have eternal life.

Hugs

 

[Nancy]

Yeah I had the idea that they were talking about communion. Why do they call it Passover? I still would benefit from taking communion with them though.

I've never heard of taking communion referred to as "Passover"...now Easter is what SHOULD be called Passover IMHO. I have been to Church's where there was communion served but, since I was not in agreement with their views of transubstantiation, so I did not take communion with them. It was a visit with and for a friend to her Church.
Perhaps Ziggy has the better explanation. :)

BIG edit! lol

 

[Ziggy]

My idea of communion with God is sitting in your closet and opening your heart and talking to God heart to heart.
The idea of having communion as a group or church, is when people get together to share Jesus' words and demonstrate the spirit of love among eachother.
Jhn 13:1
Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
Jhn 13:2
And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him;
Jhn 13:3
Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;
Jhn 13:4
He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself.

Jesus Washes the Disciples' Feet​

Jhn 13:5
After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded.
Jhn 13:6
Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet?
Jhn 13:7
Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.

This Passover represents Jesus spreading his words among the disciples. This bread, his body, or the vessel which contains the spirit, was broken and shared so they all could hear his words.
This is my body which is broken for you. The body is the embodiment of his words and his spirit.

This wine is his spirit, this life which is found in the blood of every child is shared among those who are communing with him.
Jesus demonstrates the fruit of his life, the wine, the blood, by serving all of them in a humble act of washing their feet.
This is the fruit of his spirit, this meekness, this humbleness that he shares with us all.

Luk 22:17
And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18
For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19
And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20
Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

Jesus illustrated how his words were to be distributed among people, and how his spirit would also be shared among people.

I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

50 days later on Pentacost the disciples of Jesus were gathered together and God sent His Spirt, His life, His Kingdom to the people.

What we do with this bread and this wine depends on how we minister it.
Until God's Spirit is perfected in us, we do show his death, until he is revealed in us.

He showed them he loved them and how we should love eachother.

He fed them with manna from heaven. He gave them water from the Rock, and Led them by his Spirit 40 years in the wilderness.

Hugs

 

[marks]

Yeah I had the idea that they were talking about communion. Why do they call it Passover? I still would benefit from taking communion with them though.

I don't know if this is why they call it as they do, however, I've seen before what I think is people incorporating "Jewishness" into their Christianity in the idea that this is more spiritual. The Hebrew Roots Movement is an example. In my experience this tends to result in a certain legalism, as if we should be keeping the feasts, keeping the Law, not doing "Christmas", things like that. But again, I don't know about the one's you met.

Much love!

 

[Raccoon1010]

Hi all, So 2 ladies walked up to me and one of them spoke to me about the Passover, something like that if you take the Passover, you will have eternal life. What is the Passover. I didn't quite understand her. Thanks a lot. She asked for my # and she said that she will call me.

If they're talking about the bread and wine then yes. That is eternal life. But the bread and wine replaced the Passover feast after Jesus died.

 

[Deborah_]

Hi all, So 2 ladies walked up to me and one of them spoke to me about the Passover, something like that if you take the Passover, you will have eternal life. What is the Passover. I didn't quite understand her. Thanks a lot. She asked for my # and she said that she will call me.

I just found this: Passover: The Way to Eternal Life

If Nancy has found the right group, they are "The World Mission Society Church of God", and they have some very weird beliefs indeed (for example, that we have a Father God and a Mother God - better known as Jerusalem!) According to their website they say they believe in the Trinity, but they describe it wrongly.

 

[thelord's_pearl]

If they're talking about the bread and wine then yes. That is eternal life. But the bread and wine replaced the Passover feast after Jesus died.

What is the difference b/t the bread and wine and the Passover feast? Why is communion (Passover) to be related to the Passover and not to the cross where he conquered death once and for all? Thanks a lot for answers.
After talking with you guys, I will not be joining this church of believers, she did talk about a Mother God which I did not understand and have never read in the Bible before.

 

[Raccoon1010]

What is the difference b/t the bread and wine and the Passover feast? Why is communion (Passover) to be related to the Passover and not to the cross where he conquered death once and for all? Thanks a lot for answers.
After talking with you guys, I will not be joining this church of believers, she did talk about a Mother God which I did not understand and have never read in the Bible before.

The passover is killing a lamb and eating it as a feast. It was done when God instituted it thru Moses. Jesus is the Lamb of God so he replaced that. But the cross isn't the Lamb. Jesus gave his disciples bread and wine and told them that he is the bread and wine, which are his body and blood and that it will give them eternal life. And while bread and wine are not literally Jesus' body and blood, he did say to take the bread and wine in remembrance of him.

 

[Lambano]

What is the difference b/t the bread and wine and the Passover feast? Why is communion (Passover) to be related to the Passover and not to the cross where he conquered death once and for all? Thanks a lot for answers.

The purpose of The Passover is to remind the Jewish people of who they are: They are the people whom God redeemed out of slavery in Egypt in order to become His people.

The purpose of Communion is to remind us of who WE are: We are the people for whom Jesus suffered and died to redeem us from slavery to sin and death in order to become God's people.

And historically, the Last Supper was in the context of actually celebrating the Passover. The breaking of the bread and the taking of the cup (4 times) is part of the Passover ritual.

 

[Lambano]

After talking with you guys, I will not be joining this church of believers, she did talk about a Mother God which I did not understand and have never read in the Bible before.

Good. There's something about that group's beliefs and practices that sets off the warning klaxons to me.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Luke 22:19​

19 And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”​

The purpose is to remember to worship Jesus for the sacrifice he made for us.

 

[Nancy]

Good. There's something about that group's beliefs and practices that sets off the warning klaxons to me.

"klaxons" Lolo, You sure DO have a way with words bro! Ahaha!

 

[Lambano]

 

[marksman]

He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself.

Note that he rose from SUPPER, Not communion,