I hate myself, and hate being an atheist.

[Cerraco]

Since this seems to be an inevitably event with you and the ladies you should have a plan at the ready when it happens .
You could say . " Wow , can you believe that just happened ! I think I could star in a TV show about the crazy things that happen to me ! Would you watch it ? "

Think of the approach I would need to take to say that. "Hey attractive lady, whenever I'm near women I like, these embarrassing things happen, this could be a TV show!" That entrails me creepily admitting my interest in them.

Edit: There's something I forgot to mention in my previous post. In heaven, do people get things they could never get in life? Do hideous dudes that could never get a woman no matter what get women in heaven while having a normal face for once? Do people born in the poorest countries get to experience actually having things?

 

[Lambano]

Good lord, I'm very sorry.

Thank you. This sucks.

How's the situation with your mom?

 

[Lambano]

What's the other option other than despair? To put my faith in an invisible thing that may or may not help me?

I remember this quote; I don't know the source:

"When the pain gets worse than the payback, that's when change can occur."

I prefer Bob Dylan's version:

When you ain't got nothin'
You got nothin' to lose.

You know the pain; what's the payback for staying where you are?

 

[Lambano]

I would like to believe in God, because that means there's a sense of justice and purpose in life. If God exists, that would also mean there's an afterlife, meaning that life has a purpose, rather than just being born for no reason than dying into an infinite oblivion. But the Bible does not follow standard logic, and there will always be something that never ever ever makes sense.

I know. This is one of the issues that puts me at odds with my fellow Christians, if you've seen some of the discussions over in the Christian-only sections of the forum. I KNOW there's stuff in the Bible that doesn't make sense. But I find this Mark Twain quote amusing: "It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."

What I do understand is there really is a God, and a dude named Jesus really did live in first-century Israel, preached, got himself into trouble with the religious authorities, who got the local occupying military governor to have him tortured and executed. The part that might not make sense to some people is they say the dead man got up and walked. I've heard stranger things. And if it's true, then what?

Maybe there is justice and purpose and an afterlife.

 

[talons]

"Hey attractive lady, whenever I'm near women I like, these embarrassing things happen, this could be a TV show!"

This is not what I said for you to say , read again below for you line to say . Follow the script or you will never make an actor .

" Wow , can you believe that just happened ! I think I could star in a TV show about the crazy things that happen to me ! Would you watch it ? "

Notice the question I have you ask . You are asking if she is interested in watching YOU . You are not expressing interest in the lady you are merely asking a question to her interest in you .

That entrails me creepily admitting my interest in them.

Not at all , see above . Don't be creepy , but that is up to you .

Edit: There's something I forgot to mention in my previous post. In heaven, do people get things they could never get in life? Do hideous dudes that could never get a woman no matter what get women in heaven while having a normal face for once? Do people born in the poorest countries get to experience actually having things?

I know where you can get those questions answered . How bad do you want the answers ?

 

[Cerraco]

Thank you. This sucks. How's the situation with your mom?

My previous post mentions that the doctors say she will make a full recovery, but her body was in terrible shape before her ulcer-therefore-insane-blood-loss happened, who knows how it will be now. That's one of the reasons why I don't want to have kids, because the loss of one would be beyond unspeakably unbearable.

Notice the question I have you ask . You are asking if she is interested in watching YOU . You are not expressing interest in the lady you are merely asking a question to her interest in you.

I get where you're coming from, you're talking about spinning a negative into a silly positive. The problem is... my situation doesn't play out in the way where that statement would work. Some things are so unbearably embarrassing that you can't slap a bouncy Seinfeld theme on top of it. The curse has been going on for as long as I've been alive. In school, a teacher always had to SHRED and ROAST the life out of me in front of the girls I liked, I could not win. I couldn't I couldn't I couldn't. I'm not exaggerating. I was downward punched so much that others thought it was okay for them to treat me terribly. "Oh the teachers/adults do it, so I can do it!" American schools, ladies and gentlemen!

I'm gonna have to have a talk with my boss to stop mentioning my mistakes in front of everyone and just keep that between me and him. Seriously, I can't escape those situations, and you can't always spin the bad moments around. They just happen, and the damage is done. It also doesn't help that the U.S. is plagued with so many stigmas and false societal norms, especially about attraction. Human beings are flawed and biased, and it's easier to just agree with the world instead of thinking for yourself. Finding someone is always about being "cool" and upholding all these things. Everything is a contest.

Here's how I see this: that terrible alpha forum I was at is what the world is but shouldn't be, while this forum is what the world isn't, but probably should be. The human race is so backwards sometimes that it's amazing, and the amount of people that don't realize it... Another thing, I also can't fathom how people can confidently say "there's no proof of evolution starting the world!" I can't move past that, that's so ridiculous that it should be illegal. I'm not knocking anyone's beliefs, but the fact that people say there's no proof of that is insane. I guess the centuries of science and studying things on the molecular level and finding absolute patterns isn't enough proof. But something written in the Bible? Full-on proof right there.

And why does God keep spitting people into existence? Is he chilling up there and waiting 9 months after two people do it, then he drops a soul in the fetus? Do you understand why people are atheists? Because nothing adds up, and a lot of people don't want to "just have faith and roll with it" because it's much easier to think that way.

Edit: All this talk I've been doing about rejection and finding love and whatnot... The amount of women seeing these posts and thinking, "Ugh, yikes."

 

[talons]

I get where you're coming from, you're talking about spinning a negative into a silly positive.

There you go ! Silly can work .

The problem is... my situation doesn't play out in the way where that statement would work. Some things are so unbearably embarrassing that you can't slap a bouncy Seinfeld theme on top of it. The curse has been going on for as long as I've been alive. In school, a teacher always had to SHRED and ROAST the life out of me in front of the girls I liked, I could not win. I couldn't I couldn't I couldn't. I'm not exaggerating. I was downward punched so much that others thought it was okay for them to treat me terribly. "Oh the teachers/adults do it, so I can do it!" American schools, ladies and gentlemen!

Have more than one statement at the ready , it will get easier over time . Don't wallow in your pity , find a method of making friends and practice it . I was bullied in school , milk poured over my head in the middle of a crowded lunchroom and I offered no resistance .

Do you understand why people are atheists?

They don't want to submit to God's will for their life . They want to be their own god .

 

[Cerraco]

There you go ! Silly can work.

Have more than one statement at the ready, it will get easier over time. Don't wallow in your pity, find a method of making friends and practice it. I was bullied in school, milk poured over my head in the middle of a crowded lunchroom and I offered no resistance.

And I had fries poured on my crotch in middle school in front of all my friends sitting around me. That dude grew up to be a "ghetto" pseudo-tough guy and was thrown in jail at least once when he got older. If he is still the same bully he was as a younger sub-human, then I hope he gets 4 cancers. As for coming up with statements for embarrassing situations, I do that by default. When something happens enough times, you'll just automatically come up with ways to circumvent it. I'll have all these redirects and lies prepared just in case. You wouldn't go through a bullet storm without wearing armor first.

They don't want to submit to God's will for their life. They want to be their own god.

It's a lot more complex than that. It usually falls to "there's no proof, so why expend the energy to believe in it?" or "The world is so terrible, no God would ever make a world like this." What is God's game plan? Just create a bunch of people on Earth because he was bored? All of us are gonna have different personalities and God knew that beforehand, so he knows who will and won't believe in him. But... according to many Christians, they're gonna suffer forever just because they didn't believe in Christ. You can't have both: you can't have this all-knowing, all-loving and forgiving god, but he'll have people in eternal agony because their thoughts were different, regardless of what their morality was like. Doesn't sound very fair. Doesn't sound like a good God.

I know it sounds like I'm slamming the people who believe in this stuff, but that's not my intent. Some atheists think the world would be better without religion, but I think that's wrong. For some people, religion is the one thing keeping them sane and not a criminal.

 

[talons]

As for coming up with statements for embarrassing situations, I do that by default. When something happens enough times, you'll just automatically come up with ways to circumvent it. I'll have all these redirects and lies prepared just in case. You wouldn't go through a bullet storm without wearing armor first.

Be ready to make it a positive not just suffer through it when the bad event happens . No lies needed .

"there's no proof, so why expend the energy to believe in it?"

Think about the Apostles if Jesus had not risen from the grave would the Apostles have lived the lives they did in dedication to the mission given to them by Jesus ?

 

[Cerraco]

Be ready to make it a positive not just suffer through it when the bad event happens. No lies needed.

No, sorry man. Sometimes lies are extremely needed. Sometimes the truth is much sadder and more depressing. We do not live in a world where the truth always leads to a purely positive outcome.

Think about the Apostles if Jesus had not risen from the grave would the Apostles have lived the lives they did in dedication to the mission given to them by Jesus?

I'm assuming no. Earlier in this thread, someone said how "the world would hate me if I became a Christian, just as it hated Jesus"... Then why the hell would I want to be one then? There are two people I know that followed God to the letter and are as old as I am, and they both got absolutely nothing out of it, like all that time was wasted. This is why religion doesn't work for me. God seems to have this randomized sense of choice on who he helps and who he doesn't, so it doesn't pay to go all in on this God guy when there's a very high chance you get nothing out of it. That is time you don't get back.

 

[Matthias]

The hatred of the world will come to an end.

No one “goes all in on“ the God of Israel and gets nothing out of it.

 

[Lambano]

There are two people I know that followed God to the letter and are as old as I am, and they both got absolutely nothing out of it, like all that time was wasted.

If they found meaning in following Christ, then the time wasn't wasted, was it?

 

[Riven]

If they found meaning in following Christ, then the time wasn't wasted, was it?

Only if they say that it was a waste. Some do when they get older. The longer you live, the more you lose. It's enough to make a man bitter.

 

[Cerraco]

If they found meaning in following Christ, then the time wasn't wasted, was it?

I got into this argument with the other Christian forum. People are so convinced that "if you don't believe in Christ, then straight to hell!" That is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. True or not. Seriously, if you go up to someone and say, "You're going to hell if you don't think like this!" You will sound really smug and punchable.

It's very easy to talk like this when you're already believing something, and you think you're right, and the world is wrong.

 

[Matthias]

I got into this argument with the other Christian forum. People are so convinced that "if you don't believe in Christ, then straight to hell!" That is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. True or not. Seriously, if you go up to someone and say, "You're going to hell if you don't think like this!" You will sound really smug and punchable.

It's very easy to talk like this when you're already believing something, and you think you're right, and the world is wrong.

What would you like for them to do?

 

[Cerraco]

What would you like for them to do?

For some of them to not preach like an angry, abusive Sunday school teacher that beats kids with rulers then they disagree.

 

[Matthias]

For some of them to not preach like an angry, abusive Sunday school teacher that beats kids with rulers then they disagree.

I think that’s a reasonable request. Maybe some of them will listen and tone down their rhetoric. In their zeal, they’re hurting their cause.

Just by pure coincidence, I finished reading a famous sermon yesterday - Sinners in the Hands of An Angry God. The preacher (Jonathan Edwards) made some good points, but turned me off.

 

[Cerraco]

My hatred of the world keeps growing over time, and I don't think I can control it. I'm treating life like a bad, uninteresting movie. I just wanna skip to the end where I'm an old man or something. I want to run out the clock. I want to hit the fast forward button, see the ending, then just turn the TV off. In other words, just auto-pilot live. I don't have the energy for anything beyond that.

I can't believe God gives unique purposes to billions of people without running out of ideas.

 

[Matthias]

Atheism is heartbreaking.

 

[NotTheRock]

I was at the other Christian Forums, but they banned me because I mentioned a few things that I did not know were against the rules (I won't mention them here as to not risk anything). I am absolutely BOILING angry at them, as they picked a terrible time to do that. There's nothing like seeing someone online, and then just not responding and ghosting you.

My mind is in a panicked, lost and horrified state. I hate myself, and I'm so anxious that I'm constantly woozy. I am 35 and have not been with a woman, because I've been busy with life. I then joined the Sosuave forum, which is - for those who don't know - a super macho redpilled alpha male testosterone cold emotionless forum, but they have constant success with women. That place introduced to me how shallow and one-sided the love world is, which has proven that it may be too late for me.

Just when I get help at the other forum, they decide to ban me, and then not tell me if it's permanent or not because half the planet likes to play the "not reply" game. Seriously, who doesn't do that? Every mod at every forum loves doing that, and you can see when they were last online. I am screaming in my head right now, where is this god? Where is this "heals the broken-hearted" that he does? If he doesn't answer, I might have to escape somewhere, because I can hardly even think.

Please remember this; once upon a time, God thought of you. That's right. The creator of the universe and all life once thought of YOU! God wanted you and so he brought you into existence by creating you.

Life is tough, but that's because God is testing, refining, and shaping you for living forever in his kingdom. And rest assured, God has BIG plans for YOU!

Never feel that you're unimportant or that your life doesn't matter. Remember, God thought of YOU, created you, loves you, and has BIG plans for you in his kingdom!