I hate myself, and hate being an atheist.

[Cerraco]

I am sorry for all the trauma you went through in school. However you are in your 30s you arent in high school anymore, but it sounds like the people you are hanging out with are still high schoolers, and that is a big part of your issue.

Maybe I'm not explaining things properly... I'm not hanging out with people like that, and I never would because I couldn't stomach them. I can't imagine what my sanity would be if I had to listen to that frat boy dbag crap all day. The people I was talking about were dudes from another forum, which is a reflection of this country and what it's like to be a man. I bring up my past issues in school because that also reflects how the United States is.

You need to decide what kind of life you want to live, and who you want to serve. If you want too serve the God of Love and the Creator.
Or keep living the life you have been living until you die.

So my choices are to live by the words of obnoxious people that definitely exist and make up a part of the flawed world, or to serve an invisible deity that has no proof of existing? Sounds like quite the lose-lose situation.

 

[Sparrow77]

So my choices are to live by the words of obnoxious people that definitely exist and make up a part of the flawed world, or to serve an invisible deity that has no proof of existing? Sounds like quite the lose-lose situation.

Who built the house that you live in? Do you know? Most likely not. Howeer,
you know it was built by some one because you can see the walls and the floors. You know Some one drew up the plans, got the materials and set to constructing it.
God Created the world He is the Creator and the Builder of all life. He is not controlling and will not force you to accept Him.
However, those who do accept Him are given a new heart and a renewed mind. They are born again and made new. The old passes away.
I am a new creation, I do not feel sucidal anymore, I am not drowning in sorrow and depression. I have been filled with the Holy Spirit and I have a purpose now and a reason to be alive.
All of this happened to me simply because I decided to accept Him into my heart. John 3 16. For God so Loved the world He Gave his only begotten son as a sacrifice to pay for sin whomever shall believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.
Again what do you have to loose at this point?
There is not a risk here, either its a lie and you keep living as you are or its true. Why not try it and see if it is true what I am saying. The bible says to test everything. I challenange you to put my words to the test and see if they be true or false.

 

[Cerraco]

Who built the house that you live in? Do you know? Most likely not. Howeer,
you know it was built by some one because you can see the walls and the floors. You know Some one drew up the plans, got the materials and set to constructing it.
God Created the world He is the Creator and the Builder of all life. He is not controlling and will not force you to accept Him.

Everything you just said can have a scientific explanation behind it. Why does the science of everything reveal different origins than what the bible says? Also, you said something like "Just worry about God's plan for you, don't worry about his plan for anyone else." No, that's a bit of a copout, because I have some close people who are suffering with conditions they didn't deserve for no reason.

You saying that I have nothing to lose is absolutely true, but it still greatly disturbs me to see other people I'm close to go through horrible things just because "God has a different plan for them I guess..."

 

[Riven]

I was at the other Christian Forums, but they banned me because I mentioned a few things that I did not know were against the rules (I won't mention them here as to not risk anything). I am absolutely BOILING angry at them, as they picked a terrible time to do that. There's nothing like seeing someone online, and then just not responding and ghosting you.

My mind is in a panicked, lost and horrified state. I hate myself, and I'm so anxious that I'm constantly woozy. I am 35 and have not been with a woman, because I've been busy with life. I then joined the Sosuave forum, which is - for those who don't know - a super macho redpilled alpha male testosterone cold emotionless forum, but they have constant success with women. That place introduced to me how shallow and one-sided the love world is, which has proven that it may be too late for me.

I would suggest disconnecting from all that stuff and looking inward. Focus on the things you can control. If you're socially awkward, talk to people more. Get out of your comfort zone. All those red pill guys are full of crap. Guys like Andrew Tate? He has a really big mouth and a very tiny brain.

 

[Cerraco]

All those red pill guys are full of crap. Guys like Andrew Tate? He has a really big mouth and a very tiny brain.

Yes, they're terrible and have planet-sized egos, but sadly that's what a lot of women go for because... reasons. These are also the dudes that "win" in life, even when they shouldn't. I'm actually shocked that this many Christians exist given how garbage, unbalanced and backwards the world is, and that it will be that way forever. But I'd like to go back to this "it's god's plan, dude" topic. I understand people are telling me to "go with god" and all that... In my younger years, I prayed many times and I got nothing, nor have I seen proof of god at all.

 

[Sparrow77]

Yes, they're terrible and have planet-sized egos, but sadly that's what a lot of women go for because... reasons. These are also the dudes that "win" in life, even when they shouldn't. I'm actually shocked that this many Christians exist given how garbage, unbalanced and backwards the world is, and that it will be that way forever. But I'd like to go back to this "it's god's plan, dude" topic. I understand people are telling me to "go with god" and all that... In my younger years, I prayed many times and I got nothing, nor have I seen proof of god at all.

What were you hoping to get in your younger years? Also what would it take for you to believe in God just curious? Like what would God need to do for your to believe He is real?

 

[Cerraco]

What were you hoping to get in your younger years? Also what would it take for you to believe in God just curious? Like what would God need to do for your to believe He is real?

For the first question, less humiliation and being singled out, but what's done is done. In retrospect, I should have gotten laid back when I had the chance, so I wouldn't have to worry about it now. For me to believe in God would - and I know this quite the tall order - require me witnessing some sort of miracle that had no basis in reality or science, and could never be explained by scientific means. However, what are the chances of that happening? I know some people would say that creation is evidence of a creator, and that's not a bad argument, but it still doesn't work as 100% proof.

Some Christians fall back on "lol the bible says it so therefore it's true because the bible says so theref-" which is circular logic, and I don't mean that in a nasty way to everyone here. What if everyone here was wrong? What if all that faith and going to church and whatnot was for nothing? What if I became a Christian right now, eventually died, and went nowhere?

 

[Ziggy]

Just sharing
Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

For the first question, less humiliation and being singled out, but what's done is done. In retrospect, I should have gotten laid back when I had the chance, so I wouldn't have to worry about it now. For me to believe in God would - and I know this quite the tall order - require me witnessing some sort of miracle that had no basis in reality or science, and could never be explained by scientific means. However, what are the chances of that happening? I know some people would say that creation is evidence of a creator, and that's not a bad argument, but it still doesn't work as 100% proof.

Some Christians fall back on "lol the bible says it so therefore it's true because the bible says so theref-" which is circular logic, and I don't mean that in a nasty way to everyone here. What if everyone here was wrong? What if all that faith and going to church and whatnot was for nothing? What if I became a Christian right now, eventually died, and went nowhere?

What would you have lost?

Hugs

 

[Cerraco]

What would you have lost?

Hugs

What?

 

[Ziggy]

What if all that faith and going to church and whatnot was for nothing? What if I became a Christian right now, eventually died, and went nowhere?

What would you have lost?

What does it mean to "become" a christian?
We're all going to die eventually.
The hope we have is that after this life we go on. If you have no hope then why bother looking forward?
It's not about "going" to church, it's about being a part of a family that has hope.

Cerraco, you been here for almost a year. You're already part of this community. You're already a part of the family, even if it is a small part, it is a very important part. Just because you are here.
The fact that you are here and keep returning shows that you have faith in something, you just haven't found what it is your looking for.
Christianity is Family. Are you looking for family? You have found it.
Christianity is Friendship. Are you looking for friendship? You have found it.
Christianity means loving each other and caring about the other even if you think they don't deserve it.
And frankly, most don't deserve it, but we love each other regardless.

What if you became a Christian right now?
What would you lose?

The thing is, you are already holding all these things in your hand. The question is, will you keep that which you have or will you let it go because you doubt you have it?
The opposite of doubt is faith. Do you have faith?

What do you believe? Why do you believe what you believe? Do you want change?
Then you have to be the change you want to believe in.

Heb 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

CSB
Now faith is the reality of what is hoped for, the proof of what is not seen.

Are you hoping for something you already have but just can't see it?

What are you looking for?

Above all else know this, You are loved.
And when you know this and accept this, then you are able to give what you have recieved.
And the evidence will prove itself.

what have you got to lose?

For me to believe in God would - and I know this quite the tall order - require me witnessing some sort of miracle that had no basis in reality or science, and could never be explained by scientific means.

You are that miracle that you witness in yourself when you see changes that you thought were not possible.


Hugs

 

[LjL]

I was at the other Christian Forums, but they banned me because I mentioned a few things that I did not know were against the rules (I won't mention them here as to not risk anything). I am absolutely BOILING angry at them, as they picked a terrible time to do that. There's nothing like seeing someone online, and then just not responding and ghosting you.

My mind is in a panicked, lost and horrified state. I hate myself, and I'm so anxious that I'm constantly woozy. I am 35 and have not been with a woman, because I've been busy with life. I then joined the Sosuave forum, which is - for those who don't know - a super macho redpilled alpha male testosterone cold emotionless forum, but they have constant success with women. That place introduced to me how shallow and one-sided the love world is, which has proven that it may be too late for me.

Just when I get help at the other forum, they decide to ban me, and then not tell me if it's permanent or not because half the planet likes to play the "not reply" game. Seriously, who doesn't do that? Every mod at every forum loves doing that, and you can see when they were last online. I am screaming in my head right now, where is this god? Where is this "heals the broken-hearted" that he does? If he doesn't answer, I might have to escape somewhere, because I can hardly even think.

Everything is so good for me, that if I just having a good day, I would think I was having a bad day.

I got it made.
Because the Lord is my God.

 

[LjL]

I hate myself, and hate being an atheist.​

If you said that you loved yourself and loved being an atheist,
I would then say you had a problem,

 

[Cerraco]

Everything is so good for me, that if I just having a good day, I would think I was having a bad day.

I got it made.
Because the Lord is my God.

And what is the source of proof for this god of yours?

If you said that you loved yourself and loved being an atheist,
I would then say you had a problem,

Why? Being an atheist is not inherently a bad thing. There are plenty of people out there that love themselves and are atheists? Why would that be a problem unless the person was a bad person?

On the other Christian forums, some people said that simply not believing in Christ would send you to hell. If that was the case, God would objectively be the worst god ever. It's things like that that make people loathe Christianity.

 

[Sparrow77]

Ziggy made a really interesting comment and I am curious as to what you think about it Cerraco.

 

[Matthias]

And what is the source of proof for this god of yours?


Why? Being an atheist is not inherently a bad thing. There are plenty of people out there that love themselves and are atheists? Why would that be a problem unless the person was a bad person?

On the other Christian forums, some people said that simply not believing in Christ would send you to hell. If that was the case, God would objectively be the worst god ever. It's things like that that make people loathe Christianity.

Do you loathe Christianity?

 

[Cerraco]

Ziggy made a really interesting comment and I am curious as to what you think about it Cerraco.

I deeply appreciate what he said, and I get exactly what he means when he talks about the Christian community.

Do you loathe Christianity?

Only when people use it as an excuse to do something horrible/say something extremely judgmental because they think they're some sort of high-ranking speaker for God himself. As for Ziggy's comment about hoping for a life after this one, that's all it is. Hope. It might make people feel better, but that doesn't make it true. Granted, it would be nice if there was a God and afterlife, but I go by what is known and provable.

When people say "believe in Jesus or you go to hell" or "morality doesn't matter, just believe in Christ and you get a free ticket to heaven! Durr!" Trash like that makes me loathe Christianity, or at least that part of it. Yeah, God made a bunch of people, but doesn't let them into heaven because they don't think a certain way, or were raised a certain way.

Here's a good example:

This is Hollywood psychobabble to me.

I don't expect anyone to watch that whole thing, and there's a shorter version out there. I can't stand this dude. He speaks with this earnest, soft and caring voice, but he has openly said "I don't care what you were raised with! If you don't go with the bible you suffer!" Even the comments to that video make me sick. They are all saying "thx for the story!!! I'm converted!!!! god is so guud!!!11!!!" No. No... no. No. That guy's story is so one-sided and fake, but this is the garbage that Christianity produces. This is what makes an atheist an atheist. This guy's description of hell is also wrong according to how the bible puts it. The story is very interesting and entertaining if you disconnect the religious trash from it.

"God has so much love and forgiveness that you wouldn't believe it! But if you're exactly like this, you suffer forever." Nooooooope nope nope. You can't have it both ways. You can't go north and south at the same time. Why would I create non-Christians knowing their future before they are created, but get offended when they aren't Christians..?

 

[Matthias]

I deeply appreciate what he said, and I get exactly what he means when he talks about the Christian community.

Only when people use it as an excuse to do something horrible/say something extremely judgmental because they think they're some sort of high-ranking speaker for God himself. As for Ziggy's comment about hoping for a life after this one, that's all it is. Hope. It might make people feel better, but that doesn't make it true. Granted, it would be nice if there was a God and afterlife, but I go by what is known and provable.

When people say "believe in Jesus or you go to hell" or "morality doesn't matter, just believe in Christ and you get a free ticket to heaven! Durr!" Trash like that makes me loathe Christianity, or at least that part of it. Yeah, God made a bunch of people, but doesn't let them into heaven because they don't think a certain way, or were raised a certain way.

Here's a good example:

This is Hollywood psychobabble to me.

I don't expect anyone to watch that whole thing, and there's a shorter version out there. I can't stand this dude. He speaks with this earnest, soft and caring voice, but he has openly said "I don't care what you were raised with! If you don't go with the bible you suffer!" Even the comments to that video make me sick. They are all saying "thx for the story!!! I'm converted!!!! god is so guud!!!11!!!" No. No... no. No. That guy's story is so one-sided and fake, but this is the garbage that Christianity produces. This is what makes an atheist an atheist. This guy's description of hell is also wrong according to how the bible puts it. The story is very interesting and entertaining if you disconnect the religious trash from it.

"God has so much love and forgiveness that you wouldn't believe it! But if you're exactly like this, you suffer forever." Nooooooope nope nope. You can't have it both ways. You can't go north and south at the same time. Why would I create non-Christians knowing their future before they are created, but get offended when they aren't Christians..?

Why do you listen to them?

 

[Cerraco]

"Listening" to them is a strong way to put it. "Come across" is a bit closer. Although granted, I did make a thread on the other Christian forums asking how "believing in Jesus needs to happen to get into heaven" which is... a bit dumb, but whatever.

 

[Matthias]

"Listening" to them is a strong way to put it. "Come across" is a bit closer. Although granted, I did make a thread on the other Christian forums asking how "believing in Jesus needs to happen to get into heaven" which is... a bit dumb, but whatever.

You’re listening to the wrong people and what you’re hearing makes you sick. Is that wise or foolish on your part?

Have you tuned them out and listened to Jesus for yourself?

The meek will inherit the earth, not heaven.