I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

[Finis Fidei]

Sadly this is true . the problem is the evangelical realm has long been infiltrated by the wrong men .
The church was to shine the light , not compromise the light to fit society .
THEY did this for survival . They turned the church into a money making machine .
ANd in order to keep the money coming in , to increase , well they had to pander to society .

As people leave churches, churches pander harder, causing more people to leave. People grow to expect this pandering to be how a church should be. But, it absolutely isn't what churches should be. Here's the thing for me, are Christians really so stupid that they think churches should pander and that they think this helps, rather than hurts, as they watch churches shrink? I've come to answer this question yes. And, that makes Christianity look like a superstition of stupid people. Intellectually, I can think differently, but emotionally I can't.

No, they don't have to pander to society. "Seeker friendly" churches a few decades focused on pandering. Their growth caused others to follow. They poisened churches for short-term gain. These days, if you don't pander, you get quickly judged by Evangelicals themselves.

A century ago, over 90% of Americans identified as Christian. And, most of them went to churches that were on average far more biblical than any church Evangelicals attend today!

 

[amigo de christo]

As people leave churches, churches pander harder, causing more people to leave. People grow to expect this pandering to be how a church should be. But, it absolutely isn't what churches should be. Here's the thing for me, are Christians really so stupid that they think churches should pander and that they think this helps, rather than hurts, as they watch churches shrink? I've come to answer this question yes. And, that makes Christianity look like a superstition of stupid people. Intellectually, I can think differently, but emotionally I can't.

No, they don't have to pander to society. "Seeker friendly" churches a few decades focused on pandering. Their growth caused others to follow. They poisened churches for short-term gain. These days, if you don't pander, you get quickly judged by Evangelicals themselves.

A century ago, over 90% of Americans identified as Christian. And, most of them went to churches that were on average far more biblical than any church Evangelicals attend today!

many christains are of the world my friend . They pander to whatever suits the god of their mirror . aka they self .
Seeker friendly was total destruction . oh it led to massive growth all right
growth in church size but they love was for another god , NOT GOD , NOT CHRIST .
Now in this last hour a massive delusion which is no longer fringe but mainstream cometh to gather
all false religions and even most who lip the name of JESUS but follow another jesus .
This delusion will take any and all that is not in the lambs book of life
on a ride they all believe is love , is of GOD , and shall attain world peace n safety , BUT THAT RIDE
GONNA END ABRUPLTY and SUDDENLY and they will all wail as one voice FOR THE VERY GOD and HIS CHRIST they denied
COMETH TO LAY DOWN the FURY of HIS WRATH UPON THEM ALL .
I SUGGEST we open bibles and get busy learning for ourselves that which most men no longer even teach
and if they do its only small parts of it taken out of text to promote a lie .

 

[Matthias]

As people leave churches, churches pander harder, causing more people to leave. People grow to expect this pandering to be how a church should be. But, it absolutely isn't what churches should be. Here's the thing for me, are Christians really so stupid that they think churches should pander and that they think this helps, rather than hurts, as they watch churches shrink? I've come to answer this question yes. And, that makes Christianity look like a superstition of stupid people. Intellectually, I can think differently, but emotionally I can't.

No, they don't have to pander to society. "Seeker friendly" churches a few decades focused on pandering. Their growth caused others to follow. They poisened churches for short-term gain. These days, if you don't pander, you get quickly judged by Evangelicals themselves.

A century ago, over 90% of Americans identified as Christian. And, most of them went to churches that were on average far more biblical than any church Evangelicals attend today!

Why does that matter to you? What does an atheist want done about it?

Atheists For God (AFG) membership drive?

 

[Marvelloustime]

many christains are of the world my friend . They pander to whatever suits the god of their mirror . aka they self .
Seeker friendly was total destruction . oh it led to massive growth all right
growth in church size but they love was for another god , NOT GOD , NOT CHRIST .
Now in this last hour a massive delusion which is no longer fringe but mainstream cometh to gather
all false religions and even most who lip the name of JESUS but follow another jesus .
This delusion will take any and all that is not in the lambs book of life
on a ride they all believe is love , is of GOD , and shall attain world peace n safety , BUT THAT RIDE
GONNA END ABRUPLTY and SUDDENLY and they will all wail as one voice FOR THE VERY GOD and HIS CHRIST they denied
COMETH TO LAY DOWN the FURY of HIS WRATH UPON THEM ALL .
I SUGGEST we open bibles and get busy learning for ourselves that which most men no longer even teach
and if they do its only small parts of it taken out of text to promote a lie .

@amigo de christo

 

[Finis Fidei]

I didn’t ignore them. I addressed them.

Bible-believing Christians don’t promote activites which God hates.

Our exchanges are like:

Me: 2+2=4
You: 2+2=5
Me: Suppose I give you two apples and then I give you two more apples. Count the apples and tell me how many you have.
You: I like some apples. I don't eat a lot of them.

You think you addressed what I said, but you 100% didn't, other than stating your position.

You, and other Evangelicals, promote what God hates, as I explained.

 

[Matthias]

Our exchanges are like:

Me: 2+2=4
You: 2+2=5

Me: 2+2 = 4. (Among other things, I’m a retired Civil Engineer.)

Me: Suppose I give you two apples and then I give you two more apples. Count the apples and tell me how many you have.
You: I like some apples. I don't eat a lot of them.

You think you addressed what I said, but you 100% didn't, other than stating your position.

Others have seen that I have. My position agrees with yours on some but not all points.

You, and other Evangelicals, promote what God hates, as I explained.

I’m not an Evangelical and I don’t promote what God hates.