Hypothetical question

[Keraz]

the ten northern tribes which He scattered among the Gentiles never to return.

But we will go back to the holy Land. It is our destiny. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26

The two witnesses do not prophecy till Jesus comes They die 3.5 days before Jesus comes

You need to be more coherent and stop contradicting yourself.
The 2W, will preach for 1256.5 days and lie dead in the street for 3.5 days. Then Jesus will Return and resurrect them.

 

[tailgator]

Have you no understanding? Must you always think with your flesh?

God has promised to protect and preserve Israel, but today's Jews think that only applies to them, when God's true Israel was always represented by the ten northern tribes which He scattered among the Gentiles never to return. The Jews in today's nation state of Israel, and in the world, only represent the 3 tribes of the "house of Judah" that dwelt in the southern holy lands of Jerusalem-Judea. God removed the Jews of the "house of Judah" temporarily to Babylon, and a small remnant of them returned to Judea (Ezra 2). But the ten northern tribes as a majority who were removed by God much earlier, never returned back to the holy land, and are still scattered today among the Gentiles.

Where... do you think those northern ten tribes wound up, and who do they represent today? If you really knew your Bible history about The Gospel of Jesus Christ, then you would easily know the ten tribes wound up as the Western Christian nations, of which The United States of America is one of the MAIN Christian nations among them! I mean, you can't even figure out why... Apostles Peter and Paul were in Rome preaching The Gospel of Jesus Christ, and why Paul wanted to visit the brethren in Spain, both western nations that would become Christian nations?

Do you still have no understanding
God's true Israel is the son of God.

Ever heard of him?


Exodus 4:22
Then say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son,


That is who God fights for in
revelation 20.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.



God doesnt fight for the heathen living in the land of Israel today.He brings the nations against them to destroy them.The only people in the land of Israel that will be saved are them in Christ who do not worship the beast And there are few of them that don't.

 

[tailgator]

But we will go back to the holy Land. It is our destiny. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26

You need to be more coherent and stop contradicting yourself.
The 2W, will preach for 1256.5 days and lie dead in the street for 3.5 days. Then Jesus will Return and resurrect them.

You have some serious reading comprehension issues

The two witnesses prophecy for 1260 days.Not 1256.5.

Revelation 11​

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.​

After they testify for 1260 days,then they will lay dead in the street for another 3.5 days before the day of the Lord

Instead of arguing just for the sake of argument.Try reading a bible sometimes.. Actually open it up and read it .Pay attention to what your reading.

 

[Keraz]

The two witnesses prophecy for 1260 days.Not 1256.5.

They will preach and bear witness for 1260 days, for the last 3 1/2 days their dead bodies will be a silent witness. Get it?

 

[tailgator]

They will preach and bear witness for 1260 days, for the last 3 1/2 days their dead bodies will be a silent witness. Get it?

There is no such thing as prophesying silently.
Preaching silently or witnessing silently.


They prophesy for 1260 days
They will not prophesy the following 3.5 days because they can't talk.They are dead.

 

[tailgator]

The two witnesses prophesy for 1260 days
After the days of their testimony the beast that ascends out of the abyss kills them and they lay dead for 3.5 days

Then they come back to life and the cloud ascends from Jerusalem and the earth quakes.

 

[Keraz]

There is no such thing as prophesying silently.
Preaching silently or witnessing silently.


They prophesy for 1260 days
They will not prophesy the following 3.5 days because they can't talk.They are dead.

You seem to have a mental blockage.
The fact of their bodies remain exposed on the street, IS a silent witness to those who celebrate their death.
Their time does not extend past the 1260 days.

This may seem to be an insignificant point, but it ties in to the correct understanding of all the end time Prophesies.

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[tailgator]

You seem to have a mental blockage.
The fact of their bodies remain exposed on the street, IS a silent witness to those who celebrate their death.
Their time does not extend past the 1260 days.

This may seem to be an insignificant point, but it ties in to the correct understanding of all the end time Prophesies.

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So you believe if a prophet keeps his mouth shut then he is witnessing to the world

Rediculous keras.
Pure nonsense

 

[tailgator]

They will preach and bear witness for 1260 days, for the last 3 1/2 days their dead bodies will be a silent witness. Get it?

Nonsense.

 

[Davy]

Do you still have no understanding
God's true Israel is the son of God.

Ever heard of him?


Exodus 4:22
Then say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son,


That is who God fights for in
revelation 20.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.



God doesnt fight for the heathen living in the land of Israel today.He brings the nations against them to destroy them.The only people in the land of Israel that will be saved are them in Christ who do not worship the beast And there are few of them that don't.

That's just more supposition by men's doctrines. God gave Jacob the new name 'Israel' to represent God's Birthright which included The Gospel of Jesus Christ, because the word Israel means 'those who prevail with God's help', i.e., those who 'overcome' in Christ Jesus!

That means... of course, it is NOT about the 'seed'; it is about God's Promise by FAITH on Jesus Christ as His true... ISRAEL. And that means Christ's Church today made up of both 'believing' Israelites and believing Gentiles as ONE BODY under Jesus Christ, just as Apostle Paul taught in Romans 9.

 

[tailgator]

That's just more supposition by men's doctrines. God gave Jacob the new name 'Israel' to represent God's Birthright which included The Gospel of Jesus Christ, because the word Israel means 'those who prevail with God's help', i.e., those who 'overcome' in Christ Jesus!

That means... of course, it is NOT about the 'seed'; it is about God's Promise by FAITH on Jesus Christ as His true... ISRAEL. And that means Christ's Church today made up of both 'believing' Israelites and believing Gentiles as ONE BODY under Jesus Christ, just as Apostle Paul taught in Romans 9.

This is not mans doctrine

Exodus 4:22
Then say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son,




The beast will soon be destroyed and the kingdom given to the saints of God for an everlasting possession as God had promised Abraham so long ago.

 

[Davy]

This is not mans doctrine

Exodus 4:22
Then say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son,

The beast will soon be destroyed and the kingdom given to the saints of God for an everlasting possession as God had promised Abraham so long ago.

Yeah it is a doctrine from men you are pushing, even from man's false pre-trib rapture ideas which are those who think the time of "great tribulation" will be all ought WWIII.

Hey, but you are not alone in latching onto those theories from men's doctrines instead of heeding what is actually written in God's Word.

I mean, pre-trib authors like Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye sold a whole... lot of books and movies based on their writings, made a lot of MONEY off of easily deceived folks like yourself, and they didn't even bat an eye doing it.

The coming time of "great tribulation" will be a time of WORLD PEACE, not all out war. This is what God's Word as written teaches. It is why Apostle Paul revealed a major SIGN about it in 1 Thessalonians 5 when he foretold that when the deceived say, "Peace and safety", then the time of "sudden destruction" will come upon them, pointing to God's "consuming fire" burning man's works off this earth on the last day, which is when Jesus' 2nd coming is, called "the day of the Lord".

Here is the Biblical Order as Written:
1. "beginning of sorrows" - Matth.24 per Jesus, a time just prior... to the "great tribulation", NOW, TODAY.

2. "great tribulation" - when false Messiah arrives and the "abomination of desolation" idol is placed at the future new Jewish temple in Jerusalem for false worship. The end of Rev.13 calls it the "image of the beast".

3. "Peace and safety" - the majority of the world will believe that false-Messiah is God, as he will exalt himself in place of Christ, with the power of supernatural miracles, great signs and wonders. Per Daniel 8 he will destroy using PEACE, and craft will prosper per his hand. He is coming to mimic Lord Jesus Christ, and will appear to have come to SOLVE all the world's problems.

4. God will then send HIs "two witnesses" to Jerusalem to prophesy against that beast and his beast kingdom for 1260 days ("great tribulation" time). And after their Testimony, Satan, the "dragon", who will ascend out of his bottomless pit, will kill those "two witnesses", leaving their dead bodies laying in the plaza at Jerusalem. THAT will be the timing when armies shall surround Jerusalem, as Satan will know that he has lost, and will attempt to wipe out God's people at Jerusalem once and for all.

Those specific nations that will come up against Jerusalem on the 'last day' of this world, are LISTED in Ezekiel 38, and represent today's Russia, Iran & Iraq (as Persia), Gomer (old Soviet satellite nations like Georgia), Libya (a radical Islamic terrorist nation), Ethiopia (which is actually pointing to the Islamic terrorist nation of Sudan, part of old Ethiopia), and Turkey (old Cappadocia, which is an Islamic nation).

NONE... of those on that Ezekiel 38 list are CHRISTIAN nations.

5. After 3.5 days of their dead bodies laying in the street, God's "two witnesses" will arise to the shock of the whole deceived world. That is about the event of the resurrection with Christ's coming on the 7th Trumpet - 3rd Woe.

So go tell those Communists you are listening to, to go bury their heads in the sand, because they will want to hide when Lord Jesus returns to deal with them.

 

[tailgator]

Yeah it is a doctrine from men you are pushing, even from man's false pre-trib rapture ideas which are those who think the time of "great tribulation" will be all ought WWIII.

Hey, but you are not alone in latching onto those theories from men's doctrines instead of heeding what is actually written in God's Word.

I mean, pre-trib authors like Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye sold a whole... lot of books and movies based on their writings, made a lot of MONEY off of easily deceived folks like yourself, and they didn't even bat an eye doing it.

The coming time of "great tribulation" will be a time of WORLD PEACE, not all out war. This is what God's Word as written teaches. It is why Apostle Paul revealed a major SIGN about it in 1 Thessalonians 5 when he foretold that when the deceived say, "Peace and safety", then the time of "sudden destruction" will come upon them, pointing to God's "consuming fire" burning man's works off this earth on the last day, which is when Jesus' 2nd coming is, called "the day of the Lord".

Here is the Biblical Order as Written:
1. "beginning of sorrows" - Matth.24 per Jesus, a time just prior... to the "great tribulation", NOW, TODAY.

2. "great tribulation" - when false Messiah arrives and the "abomination of desolation" idol is placed at the future new Jewish temple in Jerusalem for false worship. The end of Rev.13 calls it the "image of the beast".

3. "Peace and safety" - the majority of the world will believe that false-Messiah is God, as he will exalt himself in place of Christ, with the power of supernatural miracles, great signs and wonders. Per Daniel 8 he will destroy using PEACE, and craft will prosper per his hand. He is coming to mimic Lord Jesus Christ, and will appear to have come to SOLVE all the world's problems.

4. God will then send HIs "two witnesses" to Jerusalem to prophesy against that beast and his beast kingdom for 1260 days ("great tribulation" time). And after their Testimony, Satan, the "dragon", who will ascend out of his bottomless pit, will kill those "two witnesses", leaving their dead bodies laying in the plaza at Jerusalem. THAT will be the timing when armies shall surround Jerusalem, as Satan will know that he has lost, and will attempt to wipe out God's people at Jerusalem once and for all.

Those specific nations that will come up against Jerusalem on the 'last day' of this world, are LISTED in Ezekiel 38, and represent today's Russia, Iran & Iraq (as Persia), Gomer (old Soviet satellite nations like Georgia), Libya (a radical Islamic terrorist nation), Ethiopia (which is actually pointing to the Islamic terrorist nation of Sudan, part of old Ethiopia), and Turkey (old Cappadocia, which is an Islamic nation).

NONE... of those on that Ezekiel 38 list are CHRISTIAN nations.

5. After 3.5 days of their dead bodies laying in the street, God's "two witnesses" will arise to the shock of the whole deceived world. That is about the event of the resurrection with Christ's coming on the 7th Trumpet - 3rd Woe.

So go tell those Communists you are listening to, to go bury their heads in the sand, because they will want to hide when Lord Jesus returns to deal with them.

Well,you must believe the testimony of Jesus is false testimony of man because Jesus said it is war.

Luke 21

10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.



You keep insisting nation rising against nation is an idol is the dumbest thing I've ever heard .Here Donald Trump is talking about bombing Iran ,the likes of which has never been seen.I recon you believe the US armed forces will set up a statue somewhere.Dumb doctrine of man you are pushing.

 

[tailgator]

You people believe all these people in judea are fleeing from an idol on the day of the Lord are fooling yourselves.

They are not fleeing from an idol.

Zech 14
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

 

[tailgator]

Yeah it is a doctrine from men you are pushing, even from man's false pre-trib rapture ideas which are those who think the time of "great tribulation" will be all ought WWIII.

Hey, but you are not alone in latching onto those theories from men's doctrines instead of heeding what is actually written in God's Word.

I mean, pre-trib authors like Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye sold a whole... lot of books and movies based on their writings, made a lot of MONEY off of easily deceived folks like yourself, and they didn't even bat an eye doing it.

The coming time of "great tribulation" will be a time of WORLD PEACE, not all out war. This is what God's Word as written teaches. It is why Apostle Paul revealed a major SIGN about it in 1 Thessalonians 5 when he foretold that when the deceived say, "Peace and safety", then the time of "sudden destruction" will come upon them, pointing to God's "consuming fire" burning man's works off this earth on the last day, which is when Jesus' 2nd coming is, called "the day of the Lord".

Here is the Biblical Order as Written:
1. "beginning of sorrows" - Matth.24 per Jesus, a time just prior... to the "great tribulation", NOW, TODAY.

2. "great tribulation" - when false Messiah arrives and the "abomination of desolation" idol is placed at the future new Jewish temple in Jerusalem for false worship. The end of Rev.13 calls it the "image of the beast".

3. "Peace and safety" - the majority of the world will believe that false-Messiah is God, as he will exalt himself in place of Christ, with the power of supernatural miracles, great signs and wonders. Per Daniel 8 he will destroy using PEACE, and craft will prosper per his hand. He is coming to mimic Lord Jesus Christ, and will appear to have come to SOLVE all the world's problems.

4. God will then send HIs "two witnesses" to Jerusalem to prophesy against that beast and his beast kingdom for 1260 days ("great tribulation" time). And after their Testimony, Satan, the "dragon", who will ascend out of his bottomless pit, will kill those "two witnesses", leaving their dead bodies laying in the plaza at Jerusalem. THAT will be the timing when armies shall surround Jerusalem, as Satan will know that he has lost, and will attempt to wipe out God's people at Jerusalem once and for all.

Those specific nations that will come up against Jerusalem on the 'last day' of this world, are LISTED in Ezekiel 38, and represent today's Russia, Iran & Iraq (as Persia), Gomer (old Soviet satellite nations like Georgia), Libya (a radical Islamic terrorist nation), Ethiopia (which is actually pointing to the Islamic terrorist nation of Sudan, part of old Ethiopia), and Turkey (old Cappadocia, which is an Islamic nation).

NONE... of those on that Ezekiel 38 list are CHRISTIAN nations.

5. After 3.5 days of their dead bodies laying in the street, God's "two witnesses" will arise to the shock of the whole deceived world. That is about the event of the resurrection with Christ's coming on the 7th Trumpet - 3rd Woe.

So go tell those Communists you are listening to, to go bury their heads in the sand, because they will want to hide when Lord Jesus returns to deal with them.

PS
All those nations listed in Ezekiel 38 come against Israel 1000 years after Israel comes up out of their graves in Ezekiel 37.

Ezekiel 37

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,


That is the resurection that takes place before Gog comes against those resurected saints.Not the one which comes after .


Revelation 20
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.




But you preach the doctrine of man which says there is no resurrection and Israel will not come up out of their graves in Ezekiel 37.

 

[Davy]

Well,you must believe the testimony of Jesus is false testimony of man because Jesus said it is war.

You only read what you want... to read, and see only what you want... to see. That is why you are blind and without eyes to see, and ears to hear. Our Lord Jesus told you a lot more IF... you had been paying attention, but since you didn't you missed what all... He said...

Matt 24:6
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
KJV

Most preachers on Darby's false Pre-trib Rapture theory intentionally leave out that last phrase Jesus said above I underlined and put in red. They just push that first part of wars and rumors of war, and then go on their little ignorant spill about WWIII for the end and such.

But when the 'hearer' and 'reader' of Jesus' Words includes ALL... the above of what He said, He was telling His saints to do NOT be troubled as long as we hear of wars and rumors of war, because... "the end is not yet". What "end"? The time of "great tribulation"; that is the "end" Lord Jesus was pointing to there.

What does that mean then about wars and rumors of war for the time of the "end"? It means the "end" will be a time OPPOSITE of that "wars and rumors of war". And that means a time of PEACE.

Thus the coming "great tribulation" is not going to be about all out war. It is going to be a time of world peace simply because the "dragon" (Satan) is to have power over ALL nations and peoples for a period of 42 months (Revelation 13:4-8). It will be a time of spiritual false worship demanded by Satan himself here on earth working those great signs and wonders to deceive with. This is why Revelation 13:4 for that future time asks, "Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"

So instead of you listening to a bunch of Biblically illiterate preachers that are only misleading you, you should instead read your Bible more and actually listen to God in His Word, otherwise you will be like the dead 'carcase' Jesus warned about where the vultures will be gathered, because the first supernatural Messiah that is coming is not going to be Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Davy]

You people believe all these people in judea are fleeing from an idol on the day of the Lord are fooling yourselves.

They are not fleeing from an idol.

Zech 14
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

Oh, I think I know the big lie you've... been told. Like the erroneous idea that some Jews have today that they will be protected by fleeing to the rocks of Petra.

Nope! Hiding in the rocks of Petra is not going to save. Cat's already out of the bag even! Satan's host today already know about that plan by some Jews.

When Jesus said when those In Jerusalem 'see'... the "abomination of desolation" IDOL at the "holy place", which means at a stone Jewish temple, that is what He meant. And that... means the START of the "great tribulation" event, which is to be HOW LONG PER GOD'S WORD? 1260 DAYS.

But the Zechariah 14 event is set to happen on the THE DAY OF THE LORD, which is the LAST DAY of this world, 1260 days LATER AFTER THE GREAT TRIBULATION.

So it appears that you cannot 'rightly divide' the timelines written in God's Word either, much less read what all is actually written in God's Word.

 

[Davy]

PS
All those nations listed in Ezekiel 38 come against Israel 1000 years after Israel comes up out of their graves in Ezekiel 37.

Ezekiel 37

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,


That is the resurection that takes place before Gog comes against those resurected saints.Not the one which comes after .

What's the whole point of that Ezekiel 37 Chapter? The day of Christ's future return when He will gather His saints to the holy land, and restore the two symbolic sticks of the ten lost tribes of the "house of Israel" with the "house of Judah", and make them one nation again in the holy land, with Christ as KING, and David as their prince.

But the subject of the Ezekiel 38 & 39 Chapters is a DIFFERENT TIMELINE, one for the very end of this PRESENT WORLD, just PRIOR to Christ's future coming and gathering of His saints.


So like I said before, you do not know how to 'rightly divide' the timelines written in God''s Word like Apostle Paul told Timothy to do. Paul said to 'study'. You ain't done enough Bible study, but have God's timelines in His Word all MIXED UP. That's what you get for listening to men's false doctrines instead of listening to God Himself in His Word as written.

Brethren in Christ:
Do... your... own... Bible... study!

That means don't just go to a Church and believe everything preachers say or teach. It also means don't just go to the local Christian bookstore and buy whatever the popular doctrine of the day is, like Tim LaHayes 13 book Left-Behind series, as that will really... set your understanding backwards from God's written Word.

Discipline... yourselves in God's Word as written before you do anything else with your study. Ask The LORD Himself for understanding through His Son Jesus Christ in your Bible study, and then show Him you can discipline yourself by getting down to actually reading His Word for yourself. Learn to think... for yourself, with God's help. He will... help you if you belong to Him and His Son. He will give you understanding in His Word as you learn to listen to HIM and HIS Word, and not man's word.

There does exist some Bible tools from Christian scholars which God has provided as helps. But we still must listen to HIM in HIS WORD. I recommend at minimum a KJV Bible and a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance.

What Dr. James Strong did with his Strong's Concordance was take every word in the Bible manuscripts used for the 1611 KJV Bible, and gave a Hebrew/Greek Lexicon dictionary with it so you can look up the definitions and the actual Bible manuscript words used for The KJV Bible. A Strong's also makes it easy to see how any manuscript word or phrase was brought into the KJV English, and also all the Bible verses where a specific word or phrase appears.

And The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge cross-reference is a great tool also. It lets you cross-reference Bible topics. If you are at a certain Bible Scripture, this tool will give you most all other Bible Scriptures where that same topic was covered. This helps put together many Scriptures spread throughout the various Bible Books involving the same subject.

You can go to any bookstore and they will order those for you.

 

[Davy]

This is not mans doctrine

Exodus 4:22
Then say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son,




The beast will soon be destroyed and the kingdom given to the saints of God for an everlasting possession as God had promised Abraham so long ago.

You don't actually understand that Exodus 4:22 reference, because if you did you would probably understand the below verse also, which I doubt you even know...

Jer 31:9
9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is My firstborn.
KJV

In what sense... is Ephraim God's "firstborn"? It has to do with God's Birthright. And this is what the Exodus 4:22 verse "firstborn" metaphor is about.



The New Covenant FIRSTBORN...

Rom 9:3-8
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, Who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
KJV

What "promise"? God's Promised Salvation through Faith on His Son Jesus Christ.

That PROMISE by FAITH has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE IDEA OF LITERAL FLESH 'SEED'. And Apostle Paul affirms that Truth again and again and again in his Epistles. The seed of Israel were simply lucky enough to be chosen to be caretakers of taking that Promise by Faith of The GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST to all... peoples!

Gal 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
KJV