How to Test the Spirits?

[Marvelloustime]

The gospel of Christ . That one believes GOD has rose him from the dead
and confess him by mouth .
the gospel of interfaith . the christain truth is no better than the muslims or any other religoins .
Strange , because the last time i checked all them other religoins DENY JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
He who denies JESUS is the CHRIST is anti christ . HE who believes not the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON
calls GOD a liar .
Rather odd that interfaith says our truth is no better than any other religoins . and yet all them other religions
KNOW NOT THE TRUTH .
SO i say to the churches , RATHER THAN TRYING TO KEEP COMPANY and having unity with this mess
ITS A TIME and A HIGH TIME to COME YE OUT of this mess . theys preach another gospel . which IS NO GOSPEL .

@amigo de christo

 

[Ronald Nolette]

How do you test the spirits, and prophets to see if they are false, as we have many that say they have the 'spirit' or the 'spirit allows them to speak in tongues', or they were told to do or say things 'by a spirit', or give 'prophecies or interpretation from a spirit', etc.. Scripture definably tells us to do this...
1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

There are indeed many false spirits and false prophets out in the world today, which are deceiving many. So how can we recognize a false spirit or the spirit of a false prophet or teacher and don’t be taken in by them. And how do we test them?

Well the Bible lists a series of tests that can be applied to test the spirits or prophets to determine whether they are genuine or not. Taken individually, it is possible to counterfeit many of these tests, but collectively, they provide an impassable barrier to these false spirits or prophets, as even in Bible times we see them at work.

Acts 16:16
And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:

Those with these false spirits can quote scripture or have demons help them and have some of their 'divinations' come true, but they can still be false and lead God's people astray. John says that we must test the spirits to see whether they are from God and this means that we must test what the spirits are saying, or doing, or telling us to say. So lets see the tests..

1) A true spirit or prophet's message will be in complete harmony with the word of God and the law of God.
Isaiah 8:20
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

2) A true spirit or prophet's will produce the attributes given us in the scripture, goodness, righteousness and truth as well as love and more.
Ephesians 5:9
(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance:..

3) A true spirit or prophet gives counsel to edify the church, and has a grace and wisdom from God.
Luke 2:40
And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
1 Corinthians 14:3-5
3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

4) A true spirit or prophet will exalt Christ as the Son of God and the Saviour of mankind, and lift up the church, the body of Christ.
1 John 4:11-15
12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

Ephesians 2:11-13
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

5) The true spirit or prophet will bear good fruit and give Gods truth with great authority.

Matthew 7:20
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Matthew 7:29
For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

Mark 1:22
And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes.

Luke 1:17
And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

Jesus is the supreme example, and He spoke those things which He had seen and heard from the Father, and we see the spirit preparing and turning the people to Christ.

I would guess then you do not consider the Apostle John a true prophet. The Book of Revelation fails most of your qualifications.

 

[amigo de christo]

I would guess then you do not consider the Apostle John a true prophet. The Book of Revelation fails most of your qualifications.

Ronald you really are gonna have to explain this please . What do you mean the book of revelation fails most of his qualifications .
try and be as specific as you can my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

I would guess then you do not consider the Apostle John a true prophet. The Book of Revelation fails most of your qualifications.

The Spirit of prophecy IS the TESTIMONY of JESUS the CHRIST . bask in the beauty of that my friends .
Who does the FATHER testify of
WHO does the SPIRIT testify of
JESUS THE CHRIST . if any comes along and tries to imply that the christain religoin , its truth is no better
than the truth of a muslim or any other religoin , then know and understand it is of anti christ .
Because the last time i checked NONE of them BELIEVES JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
And what did john have to say about that .
HE who believes NOT the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON , THEY CALLING GOD A LIAR .
now , if someone is calling GOD a liar , HOW IS THE TRUTH EVEN IN THEM . BINGO . WE are being LIED TOO
by satans interfaith and his finding common ground .

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Ronald you really are gonna have to explain this please . What do you mean the book of revelation fails most of his qualifications .
try and be as specific as you can my friend .

will try:

2) A true spirit or prophet's will produce the attributes given us in the scripture, goodness, righteousness and truth as well as love and more

Revelation is not a nice book but a book of horrendous judgment

3) A true spirit or prophet gives counsel to edify the church, and has a grace and wisdom from God.

not much grace and edification, but judgment and punishment.

5) The true spirit or prophet will bear good fruit and give Gods truth with great authority.

no good fruit in the revelation but judgment and terror. through most of it.

Jesus is the supreme example, and He spoke those things which He had seen and heard from the Father, and we see the spirit preparing and turning the people to Christ.

the purpose of revelation is not to turn people to Jesus but to judge and punish unbelievers on earth before teh lake of fire.

The only bible test for a prophecy is whether it comes to pass or not!

Nearly all the OT prophets did ot have good news and they were conisdered false by the crows of Israel.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The Spirit of prophecy IS the TESTIMONY of JESUS the CHRIST . bask in the beauty of that my friends .
Who does the FATHER testify of
WHO does the SPIRIT testify of
JESUS THE CHRIST . if any comes along and tries to imply that the christain religoin , its truth is no better
than the truth of a muslim or any other religoin , then know and understand it is of anti christ .
Because the last time i checked NONE of them BELIEVES JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
And what did john have to say about that .
HE who believes NOT the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON , THEY CALLING GOD A LIAR .
now , if someone is calling GOD a liar , HOW IS THE TRUTH EVEN IN THEM . BINGO . WE are being LIED TOO
by satans interfaith and his finding common ground .

Well I know John is a true p[rophet!

 

[amigo de christo]

Well I know John is a true p[rophet!

THEN INTERFAITH IS A LIE and is of anti christ . JOHN would have expose this pope and all these co workers
for what they are and the lie they preach . so keep that in mind when you see men like me warning against this huge movement .
Maybe , just maybe ol amigo aint the hater after all . maybe , just maybe I REALLY DO LOVE the PEOPLE
and thus to CHRIST ALONE shall i point them .

 

[amigo de christo]

Well I know John is a true p[rophet!

HE is my friend . or he was . now he is home with the KING . but the words HE left us , as the other apostels did too ,
THEY ARE STILL FOR US today , to learn and to grow and to instruct the peoples in righteousness
to shine the light and to expose the works of darkness . To preach JESUS THE CHRIST to all
and all things HE did teach . We , my friend , WE ARE IN AN ALL OUT WAR and this war has raged
since the days of even the apostels , BUT NOW IT GROWS MASSIVE and has and is taking many captive to a lie
which it calls love . watch out and beware for many do its work , its dark mystery of inquity
to create a peoples to merge as one unto a lie and lead them all to the upmost rebellion against GOD , HIS CHRIST
and the last saints standing who refuse to conform to this darkness .

 

[Marvelloustime]

The Spirit of prophecy IS the TESTIMONY of JESUS the CHRIST . bask in the beauty of that my friends .
Who does the FATHER testify of
WHO does the SPIRIT testify of
JESUS THE CHRIST . if any comes along and tries to imply that the christain religoin , its truth is no better
than the truth of a muslim or any other religoin , then know and understand it is of anti christ .
Because the last time i checked NONE of them BELIEVES JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
And what did john have to say about that .
HE who believes NOT the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON , THEY CALLING GOD A LIAR .
now , if someone is calling GOD a liar , HOW IS THE TRUTH EVEN IN THEM . BINGO . WE are being LIED TOO
by satans interfaith and his finding common ground .

@amigo de christo

 

[The Learner]

ahhh not keeping up

 

[DJT_47]

The actual verses that you're looking for here is actually in:

1 Corinthians 13:8-10
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away..../KJV

Now I admit that at first glance it might look like it says something like that. But if you study it a little deeper you can see something else! Let's take a look at how the NLT phrases it

1 Corinthians 13:8-10
8 Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages[b] and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever!

9 Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture!

10 But when the time of perfection comes, these partial things will become useless.../NLT

What we're looking closer at ...when the time of perfection comes...

Can you tell me what that's talking about or should I tell you?

Yes. When that which is perfect is NOT talking about Christ since he is not a "that", nor is it talking about the great day of the Lord. It's speaking not in universal church terms either. I've written and posted about this previously. It's talking about the perfection of the body of Christ referred to as a perfect man in contrasting terms. I'll repost some of which I've posted in the past.

The subject of spiritual gifts is difficult to understand, hence very controversial, and equally difficult to unravel.
First, look at the way Paul began the Corinthian letter starting at 1 Cor1:10 wherein he's discussing contentions and divisions in Corinth and the need for unity which sets the stage for the rest of 1 Cor; and keep in mind, this was written to them in their time, addressing their near term issues, and not to us nor considering some future event. And note that the church was a fledgling body with little to guide and hold it together, prone to division, contention, and falling away, such as was also warned of in Heb 6 as well.
You have to first ask yourself what is "that which is perfect"? It's not referring to Jesus or his return, Jesus is not a "that".
The answer can be found in Eph 4:13 wherein it states 'till we all come to the unity of the faith unto a perfect man, that being the perfection of the body of Christ: this then addressing the previous need for the miraculous manifestation of the gifts, parts of the body as equated to the body of a man, noted in 1 Cor 12:8-10. We now have the bible to guide us and no longer need such miraculous piece meal parts of the body. Also note, the interlinear says "should come" not "is come" which also supports the idea of the possible replacing of something permanent for the temporal nature of the gifts.
The "face to face" and "known as we are known" relates to the distinction between the OT writings when reading Moses, and coming to Christ via the NT and the comparison to the veil when reading Moses, and we now, and they then, being able to look into a glass (mirror) and seeing a reflection of Christ as opposed to our own image.
To piece it all together, you must consider the gifts and their need at that time, all being necessary in the early church to edify and grow it, such as by tongues, being a sign to unbelievers, miracles, prophesy, etc.
I've posted all the pertinent parts of scriptures from 1 Cor 12, 13, Gal 3, and Eph 4. Look closely at the similarity of words and phraseology used and piece those similar words and phrases together to get an understanding of their meaning as relates to the subject.

The actual verses that you're looking for here is actually in:

1 Corinthians 13:8-10
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away..../KJV

Now I admit that at first glance it might look like it says something like that. But if you study it a little deeper you can see something else! Let's take a look at how the NLT phrases it

1 Corinthians 13:8-10
8 Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages[b] and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever!

9 Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture!

10 But when the time of perfection comes, these partial things will become useless.../NLT

What we're looking closer at ...when the time of perfection comes...

Can you tell me what that's talking about or should I tell you?

 

[One 2 question]

THEN INTERFAITH IS A LIE and is of anti christ . JOHN would have expose this pope and all these co workers
for what they are and the lie they preach . so keep that in mind when you see men like me warning against this huge movement .
Maybe , just maybe ol amigo aint the hater after all . maybe , just maybe I REALLY DO LOVE the PEOPLE
and thus to CHRIST ALONE shall i point them .

True, to Christ, we point people. His Spirit enabling us to find those who Father has chosen to redeem out of every nation, people, tribe and dialect. Then the end of this age will come to a close and the next begins.

 

[amigo de christo]

ahhh not keeping up

and what part of YE MUST BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST is so hard to grasp .
Interfaith is of el satan el diablo de mintidas y muerte . the satan the devil of lies and death .
What part of
what part of
YE MUST BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST is so hard to understand
that many now cling to a false hope that has made a path around this TRUTH
and made the ROAD TO , what they think IS GOD , very broad .
HOW hard is it to see how the apostels went about preaching THE DIRE NEED for men to repent and believe ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
what part of the bible is so hard to see that CHRIST made it DARN SURE what would occur to those who
believed not on HIM .
what part of the bible is so hard to grasp that DUE TO THE FACT that GOD DOES LOVE
DOES LOVE THE WORLD , DOES DESIRE NONE TO PERISH
that HE DID SEND HIS SON so that ALL who do BELEIVE , YOO HOO , that says BELIEVE
would not perish .
What part of the true gospel of BELIEVING from the heart that GOD rose him from the dead
and confessing HIM by mouth , IS HOW ONE IS SAVED , is so hard to understand .
MEN DID THIS . men whose love was for power and control , SOLD US ALL A LIE
and though they sure did make it sound so good and loving , ITS NEITHER GOOD OR LOVING , THEIR LIE ENDS IN THE SECOND death .
SO i dont see much love in that .

 

[Marvelloustime]

and what part of YE MUST BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST is so hard to grasp .
Interfaith is of el satan el diablo de mintidas y muerte . the satan the devil of lies and death .
What part of
what part of
YE MUST BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST is so hard to understand
that many now cling to a false hope that has made a path around this TRUTH
and made the ROAD TO , what they think IS GOD , very broad .
HOW hard is it to see how the apostels went about preaching THE DIRE NEED for men to repent and believe ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
what part of the bible is so hard to see that CHRIST made it DARN SURE what would occur to those who
believed not on HIM .
what part of the bible is so hard to grasp that DUE TO THE FACT that GOD DOES LOVE
DOES LOVE THE WORLD , DOES DESIRE NONE TO PERISH
that HE DID SEND HIS SON so that ALL who do BELEIVE , YOO HOO , that says BELIEVE
would not perish .
What part of the true gospel of BELIEVING from the heart that GOD rose him from the dead
and confessing HIM by mouth , IS HOW ONE IS SAVED , is so hard to understand .
MEN DID THIS . men whose love was for power and control , SOLD US ALL A LIE
and though they sure did make it sound so good and loving , ITS NEITHER GOOD OR LOVING , THEIR LIE ENDS IN THE SECOND death .
SO i dont see much love in that .

@amigo de christo

 

[Hobie]

Are you saying satan is in me? @Hobie

In many that think it is good, but in reality it's a unclean spirit which deceives its host and keeps in bondage..

 

[The Learner]

In many that think it is good, but in reality it's a unclean spirit which deceives its host and keeps in bondage..

Is AI possessed?

 

[amigo de christo]

Is AI possessed?

Might depend on what ya mean by AI . i know of an AI that does the work of anti christ and preaches a false gospel that
has denied the fact one MUST BELEIVE JESUS is the CHRIST . Its known as the ALL INCLUSIVE
interfaith jibberish .

 

[doctrox]

Is AI possessed?

AI is accursed and thus a tool of Satan.

 

[Hobie]

will try:

2) A true spirit or prophet's will produce the attributes given us in the scripture, goodness, righteousness and truth as well as love and more

Revelation is not a nice book but a book of horrendous judgment

3) A true spirit or prophet gives counsel to edify the church, and has a grace and wisdom from God.

not much grace and edification, but judgment and punishment.

5) The true spirit or prophet will bear good fruit and give Gods truth with great authority.

no good fruit in the revelation but judgment and terror. through most of it.

Jesus is the supreme example, and He spoke those things which He had seen and heard from the Father, and we see the spirit preparing and turning the people to Christ.

the purpose of revelation is not to turn people to Jesus but to judge and punish unbelievers on earth before teh lake of fire.

The only bible test for a prophecy is whether it comes to pass or not!

Nearly all the OT prophets did ot have good news and they were conisdered false by the crows of Israel.

Only the demons and Satan and those who follow him need be afraid of the truth in Revelation, not those of God..

 

[Jay Ross]

Only the demons and Satan and those who follow him need be afraid of the truth in Revelation, not those of God.

That is if those of God understand the contexts of the Book of Revelation.

The evidence, from what you post on this forum, is that you do not understand the Book of Revelation