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quietthinker

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Abraham lied to protect his own life. Rahab lied to protect the Israelite spies. David pretended to be crazy to protect his own life. David even lied to the priest to gain access to the holy bread from the sanctuary as he fled Saul. The priest was later killed because that, but Jesus said he was justified in eating the holy bread.

None of those things were ever considered sin in either the Old or New Testaments.

So what pop Christianity and the Bible say are two very different things.
hmmmm, sounds unreliable and slippery. I would vote no confidence in that view.
 

Ronald Nolette

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I have done this many times, and many times you pretend i haven't.
So, you are not honest, or you have memory issues.
I say its both.

Now....Listen Carefully...

JOHN 3:16, says that God gave Jesus to the WORLD... and not just to the predestined, elect., as Lying Calvinism the (5) teaches.

Paul said.>>"ALL who believe in Jesus, shall be saved"... He didnt say, "only the predestined can believe and be saved".

Jesus said.. "ALL who believe in me, I give unto you, eternal life, and you shall never go to Hell (Perish)... but He didnt say.. "all who were predestined i can give eternal life".
And I will correct you again as I have done many many times.

I agree with you 100% on what John 3:16 says. Bujt once again (please pay attention this time) it is a simple declaratory statement. all it says is whoever does A (believe) then B happens (they get eternal life). It says absolutely nothing about how, why or by what means they believe!

Please try to remember this. this is a generic open sentence. INstead of God listing all who will believe, Jesus simply says whoever!
 

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I agree with you 100% on what John 3:16 says.

You do not believe that God sent Jesus to the World of Sinners to offer them ALL Salvation, if they will believe.. John 3:16

You believe that God sent some of your family to Hell, because not all of them were chosen to believe, according to the DEVIL who wrote that THeology that owns your mind that you try to SELL here on this forum, and every weekend.

Just be honest next time.
Something new for you to try @Ronald Nolette