How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

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VictoryinJesus

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Mixing truth with error is the exact way the enemy operates otherwise he would not be able to deceive anyone. He did it in the garden causing them to doubt God and tried but failed with Jesus. Its his method, his way of scheming and deceiving.
How do you know you don’t mix truth with any error? You seem pretty certain you don’t otherwise how could you accuse anyone else of doing something you do yourself? pretty much we all think we are right(it is obvious right?), and none of us hears any one else, or what they may have to contribute.
 

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How do you know you don’t mix truth with any error? You seem pretty certain you don’t otherwise how could you accuse anyone else of doing something you do yourself? pretty much we all think we are right(it is obvious right?), and none of us hears any one else, or what they may have to contribute.
I was a Calvinist for many years and recently left that system of belief so I know what being deceived is like first hand.
 

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I was a Calvinist for many years and recently left that system of belief so I know what being deceived is like first hand.
But do you not ever consider how certain you were, while deceived? How dead certain you were it was right. To me that is scary. Because I didn’t know I was deceived. Mine was how much God hates women and how God is a tyrant raving and ranting with a gavel sounding, “Give Me My Glory!” You may say …um you are still deceived that is God. But that isn’t the Father I’ve come to know. Do I ever wonder what I’m deceived of right now? Sure I do. But I’m thankful I no longer hear a tyrant.
 

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Mixing truth with error is the exact way the enemy operates otherwise he would not be able to deceive anyone. He did it in the garden causing them to doubt God and tried but failed with Jesus. Its his method, his way of scheming and deceiving.
That , my friend , is exactly how the enemy does operate .
Let us look closely at this in the garden .
He first approaches with a question .
Has GOD said that ye may Not eat of the Trees of the garden .
To which eve says , we may eat of the trees of the garden , just NOT
the tree in the midst of it , for in the day we eat thereof ye shall surely die .
IN COMES THE LIE . NAY , nay says the serpent ye shall not die ,
In the day ye eat thereof ye shall be as gods knowing good and evil . That was actually true
cause even GOD said so later , they have become as us to know good and evil .
SEE satan will mix truths out of text in to decieve one into DISOBEYING .
Heres a more modern example of his works .
HAS GOD , CHRIST , really said that you must believe on Him .
WHY YES , HE said that if one believes they shall be saved , but if they believe not they will be damned .
NAY NAY says the love serpent , GOD IS LOVE , truth , GOD has made the road very broad through his love , fALSE .
SEE how satan works . He comes along to make void the GOSPEL of TRUTH under this other guise of love .
And some folks HERE have fallen for his social all inclusive false love gospel .
But lambs DONT . THEY CLING TO CHRIST and HE ALONE is who they will point too .
 

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I was a Calvinist for many years and recently left that system of belief so I know what being deceived is like first hand.
I keep it real simple my friend . BELIEVE YE IN JESUS CHRIST is my message . Yep .
And the lambs wont be falling for the serpents false love many path way to GOD . For that love maketh broad
the way , the road to GOD . Lambs KNOW , JESUS CHRIST ALONE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER .
They know it and they will point to FAITH in HIM till the last breath . For lambs desire only good for the peoples .
And lambs KNOW only JESUS SAVES thus HE ALONE is who they gonna point too . Now lift those hands up
and you just praise and thank the glorious LORD .
 
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Mixing truth with error is the exact way the enemy operates otherwise he would not be able to deceive anyone. He did it in the garden causing them to doubt God and tried but failed with Jesus. Its his method, his way of scheming and deceiving.
The error I expose in the modern version of the gospel...is due to a superficial understanding of spiritual things (or a non-existent understanding) and how the narrative is wrested from its intent to serve a religious man-inspired agenda.

Of course what I teach will sound bizarre at times when compared to the teachings out there that stand against sound doctrine.

But no one will be able to refute what I teach...unless through a misunderstanding of Paul's writings...which is warned against by Peter.

What is the wise thing to do is anchor a NT idea with its prophetic foreshadow in the OT.

The modern gospel is so deviated from biblical thinking that entire denominations have given up on the the OT as a source of instruction. It is wise to build one's understanding on more than one point of reference. But doing so seems irrelevant to many...seeing they already have the verses they desire to build up their religious aspirations.

The OT WAS the bible of the early church. Evangelicals can only trace their doctrinal history to 1,500 years AFTER the testimony of the church that Jesus is building. Not wise at all...in fact very foolish. These "new" doctrines (only 500 years old) have taken the Protestant churches further and further away from the path of life. We see these deviations continuing and deepening all the time.

The doctrines I teach are apostolic (backed up in both testaments) so they are not understood. I challenge any and all who are willing to do the work...the study, the seeking, to back up what they believe from multiple biblical sources...and not just a misreading of a verse or two that suits the carnal religious aspirations of the flesh.
 
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But do you not ever consider how certain you were, while deceived? How dead certain you were it was right. To me that is scary. Because I didn’t know I was deceived. Mine was how much God hates women and how God is a tyrant raving and ranting with a gavel sounding, “Give Me My Glory!” You may say …um you are still deceived that is God. But that isn’t the Father I’ve come to know. Do I ever wonder what I’m deceived of right now? Sure I do. But I’m thankful I no longer hear a tyrant.
This is indeed important. A person will be deceived very easily unless he/she has the same depth of experience as the people that we read about in the bible. So many see the living God as dead...unreachable...as if God only lives inside the bible. A dead religion seeks to replace the life of the Spirit with a self-appointed rendering of certain verses. Such foolishness. Such unbelief.

And I would ask you, what do you find questionable or scary in what I teach? What do you base your objections on? As you know I can take any amount of criticism. ;)
 
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The error I expose in the modern version of the gospel...is due to a superficial understanding of spiritual things (or a non-existent understanding) and how the narrative is wrested from its intent to serve a religious man-inspired agenda.

Of course what I teach will sound bizarre at times when compared to the teachings out there that stand against sound doctrine.

But no one will be able to refute what I teach...unless through a misunderstanding of Paul's writings...which is warned against by Peter.

What is the wise thing to do is anchor a NT idea with its prophetic foreshadow in the OT.

The modern gospel is so deviated from biblical thinking that entire denominations have given up on the the OT as a source of instruction. It is wise to build one's understanding on more than one point of reference. But doing so seems irrelevant to many...seeing they already have the verses they desire to build up their religious aspirations.

The OT WAS the bible of the early church. Evangelicals can only trace their doctrinal history to 1,500 AFTER the testimony of the church that Jesus is building. Not wise at all...in fact very foolish. These "new" doctrines (only 500 years old) have taken the Protestant churches further and further away from the path of life. We see these deviations continuing and deepening all the time.

The doctrines I teach are apostolic (backed up in both testaments) so they are not understood. I challenge any and all who are willing to do the work...the study, the seeking, to back up what they believe from multiple biblical sources...and not just a misreading of a verse or two that suits the carnal religious aspirations of the flesh.
Nothing you teach is from Jesus or the Apostles which is why you never quote them.

hope this helps !!!
 
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This is indeed important. A person will be deceived very easily unless he/she has the same depth of experience as the people that we read about in the bible. So many see the living God as dead...unreachable...as if God only lives inside the bible. A dead religion seeks to replace the life of the Spirit with a self-appointed rendering of certain verses. Such foolishness. Such unbelief.

And I would ask you, what do you find questionable or scary in what I teach? What do you base your objections on? As you know I can take any amount of criticism. ;)
It is not really criticism. I’m not sure I agree with loss of rewards of a child of God. I’ve never really studied reward. And also about how much our part is. To me, I can do nothing without Him. Amadeus and I have disagreed on this before…what our part is. We have disagreed in other areas before too. But I have learned so much by his sharing also. So, it is not anything particular. it was only at times while watching I would think if that is right…then I am wrong. And of course I naturally prefer to think I am right. :rolleyes:
 

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It is not really criticism. I’m not sure I agree with loss of rewards of a child of God. I’ve never really studied reward. And also about how much is our part is. To me, I can do nothing without Him. Amadeus and I have disagreed on this before…what our part is. We have disagreed in other areas before too. But I have learned so much by his sharing also. So, it is not anything particular. it was only at times while watching I would think if that is right…then I am wrong. And of course I naturally prefer to think I am right. :rolleyes:
I think you are on the right path! :) Bless you sister!
 

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Galatians 6:7 KJV​


“Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”
 
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Lizbeth wrote "Of course we count the cost of following Christ and He said it costs everything to follow Him. Nobody is disputing that. Why do you assume it?" and the above is your reply? Really? Why not pay attrention before you spout your usual nonsense?
It appears he has to make everyone the enemy of Christ. And I have no idea why. Then lizbeth enters into agreement with him. It’s rather strange in my opinion.
 
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