JMyrick
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I'd say it's frowned upon but forgivable. I don't think people should be chastised harshly because of it. They'd just make God look bad.
Homosexuality Being Accepted And Embraced By Christians
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Thank you Friend in Christ for understanding my post unrepentant and not remaining celibate are the key words.
That’s what I said and also remaining celibate.
Are you not the same person who said Hitler and pedophiles are saved by Christ in another thread?
Ferris Bueller
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Whoa, hold on there!
We’re repeatedly lambasted about the Protestants being broke up in the error of their doctrines into denominations, while the Catholic Church claims it remains singular because it has the real truth. I guess they aren’t any different than us Protestants after all, lol.
Ferris Bueller
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The payment for sin is only moved to a person’s account when they receive it by faith, trusting that it will pay in full the debt incurred by sin that God in his justice says must be paid. Only a few accept it. Most choose to reject it.
Thank God for grace, and the fact he desires for all to come to repentance and for everyone not to perish, @Ferris Bueller.
God loved them enough to send his own son to pay the price of their sin. Some people may simply reject the notion of love because it’s to basic, the bridge of love is to weak to support everything stated in the Bible which some consider Gods love story to all of mankind.
Of course to be saved to the kingdom of heaven one needs to receive Christ in their life, if they die here without they will be one the outside of the city gates like Revelation 22 states.
Thank you for your comment.
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You think pagan Hitler repented his sins and asked God for forgiveness before he committed suicide, you think these repeat offending Pedos repent and beg God for forgiveness and keep committing the same crime against innocent children, and that they'll be saved?
I think you are preaching the wrong sermon in that God forgives all as his son also does, some sins are mortal and can't be forgiven that easy, and only God will know who he saves, not you or me.
And no I don't think Hitler is saved nor are his henchmen or pedos, they are in eternal death never to be resurrected again.
Johnpaul,
What I’m saying is I don’t know.
Some may have, some may not have.
To be saved to the kingdom of God one needs to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ who died, was buried and was resurrected having faith and trusting God. That faith will bring about having love for God and love for others, and God will give that person a new spirit and a new heart.
People who do not end up on the outside of the gate according to Revelation 22.
Every day is judgment day, from the time we wake up in the morning, until the day of our death on the death bed.
God will not be fooled, and he still desires for all to come to repentance, though most only suggest that is for this life only. I do not, I believe their is still a chance for them to repentance when they come to the knowledge of the truth about Jesus in the heavenly realm.
Of course I could be wrong but the revelation 22 chapter suggests it to be a truth.
So that is what I’ll stick with my friend.
What I’m saying is I don’t know.
Some may have, some may not have.
To be saved to the kingdom of God one needs to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ who died, was buried and was resurrected having faith and trusting God. That faith will bring about having love for God and love for others, and God will give that person a new spirit and a new heart.
People who do not end up on the outside of the gate according to Revelation 22.
Every day is judgment day, from the time we wake up in the morning, until the day of our death on the death bed.
God will not be fooled, and he still desires for all to come to repentance, though most only suggest that is for this life only. I do not, I believe their is still a chance for them to repentance when they come to the knowledge of the truth about Jesus in the heavenly realm.
Of course I could be wrong but the revelation 22 chapter suggests it to be a truth.
So that is what I’ll stick with my friend.
You said Hitler was saved by Jesus, which I doubt very much, and also pedos who molest and rape innocent children, some acts are unforgivable, even by God or Christ, mortal sins.
As with any sin correction or chastisement needs to come from God himself through the Holy Spirit so that it causes transformation by the renewing of minds.
Romans 12:2
Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
What I’m saying is that Jesus paid for every individuals sin in the world. Do you agree with this?
Many people do not believe that Jesus death covered all peoples sins. They need to receive Jesus to be saved. But the truth is that all peoples sins have been paid for, they just have not received Jesus to be saved to the kingdom of God.
Jesus has saved all people from sin, death, hell, Satan and his demons. All people either end up inside the kingdom due to faith, or outside due to non faith.
Have you ever heard anything like this before? It’s biblically understanding to be able to say this freely without reproach from another.
Jesus did save hitler, Jesus did save child molsters, Jesus did save murders.
Did they receive? I don’t know, but God does like you suggested.
God sees these sins.
Romans 1:24-27
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Romans 1:24-27
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
No I don’t believe what you are saying and no Hitler is not saved nor are unrepentant rapists and pedos, Jesus paid for the sins of those who accept him and believe in him and beg for his mercy and repent, and stop committing the same mortal sin over and over again.
Your preaching is false and leads people astray.
Perhaps Hitler isn't saved - only God can know for sure - but he would have been if he'd accepted Jesus. I think that was what @MatthewG meant.
Okay so we differ on our understanding of Jesus paying for sin. Thank you for sharing.
Hello @JohnPaul,
There are some men who have a strong feminine side to their nature, and some women who have a strong male side to their nature: affecting not only their behaviour, but their appearance, walk, mannerisms, and vocal range. The problem arises when there is a physical attraction to someone of the same gender, for that leads to a physical relationship which is contrary to God's purpose, and abhorrent to Him.
Growing up I remember maiden ladies living together, for they were good friends and sought companionship from each other, but no physical relationship existed between them. Similarly with men: it was mutually beneficial to live together, and share their lives, without anything of a physical nature taking place. They were not called names, or differentiated from among their fellows. They were two bachelors or spinsters who loved each other and lived like brothers or sisters within the same house, were part of society, and were respected as such.
We are to love one another, and respect each other, regardless of our differences, but a physical relationship between those of the same gender is not the will of God and must not be condoned: but neither should any of the other deceitful lusts which war against the soul, such as fornication or adultery.
Society tolerates all of these things, and it is so easy to get sucked into the same tolerances. I would be hypocritical if I said that I have not succumbed to some of the same tolerances, for I have, and have therefore not done anything to try and stop the rot.
Thank you
Chris
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He was pagan and into pagan rituals, how could he have accepted Jesus if he called our Savior the illegitimate child of a name I won’t even associate with the Blessed Mother?
I doubt it very much he’s saved and MatthewG is preaching dangerous false teachings that could lead people astray.
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