Hebrews 10:26-31

[CharismaticLady]

In the words of the song "you say it best when you say nothing at all".

Do you prefer committing evil spirited trespasses against me? I forgive you. Go and sin no more.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Without a doubt....this post contains the fewest amount of False Doctrine statements that you have ever made.....lol....sorry......could not resist.....

I'm pretty sure what I say is foreign to you. Do you not believe the Word of God I teach? Would you rather believe your false teachers worthless kisses of an enemy? Those kisses are like from Don Corleone.

 

[justbyfaith]

Tozer says it better than I can.....if you are “Stiff - Necked , don’t bother to listen....frankly , I am tired of wasting valuable computer ink on this issue....I’m down to my last half- barrel .....lol....

He appears to be saying that the "willful sin" being spoken of means to reject the work of the blood of Jesus in your life.

There is a sense in which this means to reject sanctification and to intentionally sin against the Lord; because the blood of Jesus does not only justify (as per Romans 5:9)...it also sanctifies (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7).

 

[CharismaticLady]

I think that I have to disagree with you there.

To sin willfully means to sin with intention; it does not only refer to rejection of Jesus as Saviour and Lord.

While to sin willfully is a rejection of the blood sacrifice that Jesus provided for us.

Yes, exactly. There are those who want Jesus as their ticket to heaven, but do not want to believe that their willful sins could keep them from there. However, there are many "Christians" going to church who have no power over sin; thus are not on the path to salvation at all. There is still time to truly repent and become Spirit-filled - a Must to be born again with a new nature that is a slave of righteousness, not willful sin.

 

[Tong2020]

Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb 10:28, He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Heb 10:29, Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Heb 10:30, For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Heb 10:31, It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

This passage has created controversy for certain. I will mention one thing concerning its interpretation and then will hand it over to the Andrew Farley and Les Feldick followers to explain the passage according to their teaching.

It seems to me that there is the following verse,

Heb 10:12, But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

This is in the context of Hebrews 10:26; and it appears to show forth that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross is a valid sacrifice.

Thus, in Hebrews 10:26,

Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

It can be said that the sacrifice being spoken of is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.

<<<It can be said that the sacrifice being spoken of is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.>>>

My take on that is that the sacrifice there in Hebrews 10:26 is refering to the OT sacrifices for sins.

In my reading of Hebrews, the “we” are primarily, if not all, Jewish Christians, who seem to be found to have not matured in faith, unskilled in the word of righteousness, like babes (Heb.5:12-13). They are said to have received the knowledge of the truth.

The question is, what truth?

This is my take on that. In a general note, it is the gospel concerning Jesus Christ, His person, life, works, ministry, and everything about Him for that matter. For we all know that Jesus is the truth (Jn.14:6). But just to be clear, while it says they have received the knowledge, it does not mean to say that they possess all knowledge concerning Jesus Christ or have perfect knowledge of the truth. Also, it should be realized that it says “knowledge of”, which does not necessarily mean having a perfectly correct understanding of it. It is correct to think that they don’t, for even many of us Christians today also don’t. Remember, they are said to be babes, immature. Now, context points me to some specific truth that which they have knowledge of, that which concerns the matter of sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin. Not going into much detail on this, it is I think enough to say that it is about the truth that Jesus Christ had offered one sacrifice for sins forever. And that knowledge, they all have received, but apparently have not really understood it and have not realized what it implies, at least in connection with the law, which they seem to have a problem of fully letting go.

Having said that, I can then understand the last part of the verse, which says “there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins” as meaning to effectively say that the sacrifices for sins called for in the law of Moses, were made obsolete, meaningless and of no avail.

This drives the point and message that the writer of Hebrews wanted for them to understand and realize at this point in Heb. 10:26, that there is no forgiveness of sin, except in Jesus Christ, the law even having been rendered of no avail.

Also @Nancy, @CharismaticLady, @Enoch111, and to rest of the posters here.

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R1395

 

[Cooper]

Understood..BUT. "there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins," Could this mean that there is nowhere else to go for His mercies that are new everyday? IOW, there IS NO OTHER place to receive His forgiveness. Why are we to pray for him to forgive us our sins? Why would His mercies be new each day if we were perfect? If we truly seek to serve Him and Him only and fall short as, sin is a parasite that lives in us but we do not serve sin! Am I to believe that you never ask for forgiveness?

Only the one who has been sinned against can forgive. So if I sin against my neighbour, then only my neighbour can forgive me. My best friend could not forgive me, it has to be the one who has been sinned against.

So, if we sin against GOD wilfully (deliberately) and knowingly after receiving full knowledge of the truth, there is no more sacrifice.
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[Cooper]

Yes, it is what the bible teaches. And, we have a choice of which path we will follow. Narrow or wide. I have chosen the narrow because it is life!

I have not seen Bloodbought (?) in a while...hmm.
Anyhow, as long as our hearts are right with God, and we "strive" to become more Christ like everyday, God blesses that and grows us.

"Confess your sins to one another"
In His Name,
nancy

"Confess your sins to one another" is on a human level. These are not sins willfully committed against God, as is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit for example.
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[Cooper]

<<<It can be said that the sacrifice being spoken of is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.>>>

My take on that is that the sacrifice there in Hebrews 10:26 is refering to the OT sacrifices for sins.

In my reading of Hebrews, the “we” are primarily, if not all, Jewish Christians, who seem to be found to have not matured in faith, unskilled in the word of righteousness, like babes (Heb.5:12-13). They are said to have received the knowledge of the truth.

The question is, what truth?

This is my take on that. In a general note, it is the gospel concerning Jesus Christ, His person, life, works, ministry, and everything about Him for that matter. For we all know that Jesus is the truth (Jn.14:6). But just to be clear, while it says they have received the knowledge, it does not mean to say that they possess all knowledge concerning Jesus Christ or have perfect knowledge of the truth. Also, it should be realized that it says “knowledge of”, which does not necessarily mean having a perfectly correct understanding of it. It is correct to think that they don’t, for even many of us Christians today also don’t. Remember, they are said to be babes, immature. Now, context points me to some specific truth that which they have knowledge of, that which concerns the matter of sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin. Not going into much detail on this, it is I think enough to say that it is about the truth that Jesus Christ had offered one sacrifice for sins forever. And that knowledge, they all have received, but apparently have not really understood it and have not realized what it implies, at least in connection with the law, which they seem to have a problem of fully letting go.

Having said that, I can then understand the last part of the verse, which says “there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins” as meaning to effectively say that the sacrifices for sins called for in the law of Moses, were made obsolete, meaningless and of no avail.

This drives the point and message that the writer of Hebrews wanted for them to understand and realize at this point in Heb. 10:26, that there is no forgiveness of sin, except in Jesus Christ, the law even having been rendered of no avail.

Also @Nancy, @CharismaticLady, @Enoch111, and to rest of the posters here.

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R1395

The Old Testament sacrifices were not for all time. The one sacrifice Jesus made was for all time, there can be no more sacrifices.
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[Cooper]

"Confess your sins to one another"...

Well, thanks for your forgiveness...? I was merely giving my own take just as you sister. I do believe that our interpretation of "sin" may be different. I do struggle with attributes that have been with me for decades now. Frustration turns to anger, anger to throwing things and breaking them This is sin to me. Nobody is home when I do this as, it is something that happens when I am home, alone...which is about 98% of the time. It is not an everyday thing by no means but it rears it's ugly head at times. Although these "episodes" are becoming further apart and fewer between. I certainly strive to be as Christlike as possible and am growing each day in Him.
I'm sorry if I offended you, that was not intended. I so hope that you and I can reach a consensus sis, because I love you! And, I miss our phone convos. But, I understand why you would rather not.
In His Love,
nancy

The things you do in frustration are not sins against God. By the way, I do not think you could sin against God, your whole being would rebel against it. May peace and tranquility be yours in Him always as you rest in his love. With Christian love.
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[mjrhealth]

Sin, supposed to be done away with, but carnal men lover it so much, its all they can speak of, and in that is their sin.

 

[justbyfaith]

<<<It can be said that the sacrifice being spoken of is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.>>>

My take on that is that the sacrifice there in Hebrews 10:26 is refering to the OT sacrifices for sins.

In my reading of Hebrews, the “we” are primarily, if not all, Jewish Christians, who seem to be found to have not matured in faith, unskilled in the word of righteousness, like babes (Heb.5:12-13). They are said to have received the knowledge of the truth.

The question is, what truth?

This is my take on that. In a general note, it is the gospel concerning Jesus Christ, His person, life, works, ministry, and everything about Him for that matter. For we all know that Jesus is the truth (Jn.14:6). But just to be clear, while it says they have received the knowledge, it does not mean to say that they possess all knowledge concerning Jesus Christ or have perfect knowledge of the truth. Also, it should be realized that it says “knowledge of”, which does not necessarily mean having a perfectly correct understanding of it. It is correct to think that they don’t, for even many of us Christians today also don’t. Remember, they are said to be babes, immature. Now, context points me to some specific truth that which they have knowledge of, that which concerns the matter of sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin. Not going into much detail on this, it is I think enough to say that it is about the truth that Jesus Christ had offered one sacrifice for sins forever. And that knowledge, they all have received, but apparently have not really understood it and have not realized what it implies, at least in connection with the law, which they seem to have a problem of fully letting go.

Having said that, I can then understand the last part of the verse, which says “there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins” as meaning to effectively say that the sacrifices for sins called for in the law of Moses, were made obsolete, meaningless and of no avail.

This drives the point and message that the writer of Hebrews wanted for them to understand and realize at this point in Heb. 10:26, that there is no forgiveness of sin, except in Jesus Christ, the law even having been rendered of no avail.

Also @Nancy, @CharismaticLady, @Enoch111, and to rest of the posters here.

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R1395

The blood of bulls and goats never had the power to take away sins (Hebrews 10:4).

Yet, it is said that, as the result of there being no more sacrifice for sins, there is only a fearful expectation of judgment and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

Well, there was always a fearful expectation of judgment and fiery indignation for all those who were trusting in the blood of goats and calves to save them.

But if one is redeemed through the precious blood of Christ, there is no expectation of wrath and fiery indignation.

Therefore it is speaking of the blood of Christ, as being the sacrifice that, if it no longer avails for you, there is only an expectation of wrath and fiery indignation.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I have not seen Bloodbought (?) in a while...hmm.[/QUOTE]

Is that a “ good” thing for you......or a “ bad” thing.....lol..

Im still very much around.....using poorly taught, confused “ believers ” as “ Springboards” to get the Truth Of Paul’s Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing out there for Newbies that have not been ruined yet by the False and Perverted so-called “ Gospels” That Essentially say , “Jesus is ESSENTIAL for our Salvation—- BUT—He and His Shed Blood Just aren’t SUFFICIENT for Salvation.....what Jesus “ really” needs is a “ Co- Savior!” ......That would be me.”
Try to Fly that Hog-Wash by God, come Judgement Day. Best of luck.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

@Blood Bought 1953, I would appreciate it if you would give the teaching in your own words so that I can respond to you rather than your teacher concerning this issue.

What have you gleaned from what this teacher/ these teachers have taught?

I have used my own words many times.....YOU KNOW IT.....Everybody out there knows it also....I think it can be looked up here, right?

Regardless, you just want to argue and I’m bored with you and your Lame evasions and your “ Stiff Neck”
I will be happy to use you as a” springboard” when God deems it fruitful , as I have always done. Other than that, I am in a fixed income and can’t afford to waste valuable Computer Ink on the “ Accusers Of The Brethren” , which in the end is all that you amount to.....please, go away — you and your “ Milk Bottle” so- called “faith”.......

 

[Nancy]

The things you do in frustration are not sins against God. By the way, I do not think you could sin against God, your whole being would rebel against it. May peace and tranquility be yours in Him always as you rest in his love. With Christian love.
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Thank you, you are a kind man Cooper. God bless you too and, sure feels like sin when in the midst of those "episodes" He always brings me through this, victorious and even while it is happening, I am begging his forgiveness and to take this frustration away. It is getting less and, all I can think of is the last part of
Romans 14:23

"But if you have doubts about whether or not you should eat something, you are sinning if you go ahead and do it. For you are not following your convictions. If you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning."

So, you see my dilemma, lol. I FEEL as though it is sinning when I get like that so, I will always reach out to Him no matter what, Amen bro!
Gods Blessings aplenty!

 

[justbyfaith]

May the Lord abundantly bless you, @Blood Bought 1953...

 

[justbyfaith]

Im still very much around.....using poorly taught, confused “ believers ” as “ Springboards” to get the Truth Of Paul’s Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing out there for Newbies that have not been ruined yet by the False and Perverted so-called “ Gospels” That Essentially say , “Jesus is ESSENTIAL for our Salvation—- BUT—He and His Shed Blood Just aren’t SUFFICIENT for Salvation.....what Jesus “ really” needs is a “ Co- Savior!” ......That would be me.”
Try to Fly that Hog-Wash by God, come Judgement Day. Best of luck.

Of course the blood of Jesus is sufficient...where we seem to disagree is that you don't seem to think that it is capable of doing all that it is capable of doing...

It does not only justify (as per Romans 5:9)...it also sanctifies (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7).

 

[Nancy]

"Confess your sins to one another" is on a human level. These are not sins willfully committed against God, as is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit for example.
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Yes it is on a human level but, they are still "sins". And to date, the only unforgivable sin IS blaspheming the Holy Spirit. God hates sin and all sin, weather against God or His followers seems no different, I think the Holy Spirit is grieved just the same.
In Him,
nancy

 

[Nancy]

<<<It can be said that the sacrifice being spoken of is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.>>>

My take on that is that the sacrifice there in Hebrews 10:26 is refering to the OT sacrifices for sins.

In my reading of Hebrews, the “we” are primarily, if not all, Jewish Christians, who seem to be found to have not matured in faith, unskilled in the word of righteousness, like babes (Heb.5:12-13). They are said to have received the knowledge of the truth.

The question is, what truth?

This is my take on that. In a general note, it is the gospel concerning Jesus Christ, His person, life, works, ministry, and everything about Him for that matter. For we all know that Jesus is the truth (Jn.14:6). But just to be clear, while it says they have received the knowledge, it does not mean to say that they possess all knowledge concerning Jesus Christ or have perfect knowledge of the truth. Also, it should be realized that it says “knowledge of”, which does not necessarily mean having a perfectly correct understanding of it. It is correct to think that they don’t, for even many of us Christians today also don’t. Remember, they are said to be babes, immature. Now, context points me to some specific truth that which they have knowledge of, that which concerns the matter of sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin. Not going into much detail on this, it is I think enough to say that it is about the truth that Jesus Christ had offered one sacrifice for sins forever. And that knowledge, they all have received, but apparently have not really understood it and have not realized what it implies, at least in connection with the law, which they seem to have a problem of fully letting go.

Having said that, I can then understand the last part of the verse, which says “there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins” as meaning to effectively say that the sacrifices for sins called for in the law of Moses, were made obsolete, meaningless and of no avail.

This drives the point and message that the writer of Hebrews wanted for them to understand and realize at this point in Heb. 10:26, that there is no forgiveness of sin, except in Jesus Christ, the law even having been rendered of no avail.

Also @Nancy, @CharismaticLady, @Enoch111, and to rest of the posters here.

Tong
R1395

"My take on that is that the sacrifice there in Hebrews 10:26 is refering to the OT sacrifices for sins."
Yes, agreed 100%!!! Things are not always as they appear to our human eyes, especially when we have no more room to learn, which I think is impossible, lol.
Enjoyed your post and, I could not have said it even half as good.

 

[justbyfaith]

Clearly, those who, after having received the knowledge of the truth, sin willfully, and have nothing left but a fearful expectation of judgment and fiery indignation, would need to have come to the full knowledge of the truth in order for them to be held fully responsible so that the judgment and fiery indignation would remain on them...otherwise they have an excuse; because they did not have the full knowledge of the truth.

Once someone has the full knowledge of the truth, there are no more excuses...if they have been sanctified through the blood of Jesus (and the truth), and then spurn that sanctification with full knowledge of every understanding that is needed in order to obtain that sanctification, they then have no more excuse for not being sanctified...they have chosen to sin, even against the full knowledge that they have that would enable them to have true victory and freedom. They have turned their backs on the Lord; they have fallen away.

 

[Cooper]

Thank you, you are a kind man Cooper. God bless you too and, sure feels like sin when in the midst of those "episodes" He always brings me through this, victorious and even while it is happening, I am begging his forgiveness and to take this frustration away. It is getting less and, all I can think of is the last part of
Romans 14:23

"But if you have doubts about whether or not you should eat something, you are sinning if you go ahead and do it. For you are not following your convictions. If you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning."

So, you see my dilemma, lol. I FEEL as though it is sinning when I get like that so, I will always reach out to Him no matter what, Amen bro!
Gods Blessings aplenty!

Paul was writing to Jewish Christians who had been brought up not to eat pork. He was simply saying that if it goes against your conscience, then don't eat it. The reason for not eating pork was because it was full of maggots. The pigs used to clean up by eating human waste. I wouldn't eat it either. I was talking to someone only the other day, and she remembers her mother boiling pork and scraping the dead maggots off the meat. Ugh. This was in a third world country by the way. My Father would not eat pork, but I did because because of 1 Timothy 4:4-5 that says, For every creation of God is good, and nothing to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving. For it is sanctified through the Word of God and prayer. Paul simply told Gentile Christians not to eat pork in front of the Jews so as not to offend them. So all I am saying is to trust the Lord and thank Him for every good and perfect gift.

Having said all that, conscience is a good guide as to how we treat others, but for ourselves, well, just be sensible.

Those are my thoughts for what they are worth. God bless. :)
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