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lets rewrite that sentence . the one that starts with Gods children .
Gods children believe every Word that HE speaks and into the scrips He does put them so they will mature and grow
whereas those who learned the scrips through twisted precepts of men , STUMBLE over the scriptures .
Ever learning yet unable to come to the TRUTH . mature men and women of God
have learned the scrips and not rather the doctrines of men which have twisted the scrips and done so
unto their own destruction .
the fear of man is a snare
and the lusts of the flesh can surely choke the word . Many follow another jesus
they are not and have not be SEALED by the SPIRIT
for the jesus they were drawn to , NOT BY GOD but by their own lusts , will feed the lusts of their flesh . and thus IT AINT JESUS
and it was NOT GOD that drew them to that other jesus either .
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lets rewrite that sentence . the one that starts with Gods children .
Gods children believe every Word that HE speaks and into the scrips He does put them so they will mature and grow
whereas those who learned the scrips through twisted precepts of men , STUMBLE over the scriptures .
Ever learning yet unable to come to the TRUTH . mature men and women of God
have learned the scrips and not rather the doctrines of men which have twisted the scrips and done so
unto their own destruction .
the fear of man is a snare
and the lusts of the flesh can surely choke the word . Many follow another jesus
they are not and have not be SEALED by the SPIRIT
for the jesus they were drawn to , NOT BY GOD but by their own lusts , will feed the lusts of their flesh . and thus IT AINT JESUS
and it was NOT GOD that drew them to that other jesus either .
@amigo de christo
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amigo de christo

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Short commentary.

When we SEEK His FACE, His Hand of STRENGTH comes upon our hearts, filling them with His life (like a hand filling a glove), righteousness, love, joy, peace, and wisdom (Proverbs 21:1, John 7:37-39, Ezra 8:22, Hosea 10:12, Philippians 4:6-7, Romans 5:5, Psalm 16:11, 40:16, Isaiah 40:29-31, Amos 5:4, Psalm 69:32).
When we seek whose face . HIS FACE .
verily verily i say unto thee that many rather seek the face of whom they DESIRE to see AS GOD , AS CHRIST
and yet the image they embrace REBELS against THE ONE TRUE GOD and HIS CHRIST .
In other words , many were drawn to another image of CHRIST
and thus we see and we understand this was NOT THE DRAWING OF GOD at all but rather
their own flesh drawing them to another image of GOD and of CHRIST , the one that feeds the flesh of man
and teaches REBELLION toward GOD and HIS CHRIST .
But those whom GOD has drawn , HE has Drawn TO THE REAL JESUS THE CHRIST
and HE has put a love FOR TRUTH upon their hearts . The Sealed born again of GOD
would have LOVED GOD , thus LOVED CHRIST , thus LOVED HIS LOVELY WORDS in said bible too
and have then loved their neighbor as their self .
Be encouraged dear sister . and hit the trenches marching ever onwards in the LORD by the power of HIS INDWELLING
GRACE given us IN CHRIST JESUS by the working power of THE SPIRIT of GOD .
I labored more abundantely than them all , wrote paul , YET NOT I , but the grace of GOD . all credit all glory Goes to GOD
and to HIS CHRIST . YEP . now dance a jig of praise round that house rita and just praise and thank the glorious LORD .
TO HE we owe all and let us load Him daily with thunderous praises and thanksgivings .
 
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Short commentary.

When we SEEK His FACE, His Hand of STRENGTH comes upon our hearts, filling them with His life (like a hand filling a glove), righteousness, love, joy, peace, and wisdom (Proverbs 21:1, John 7:37-39, Ezra 8:22, Hosea 10:12, Philippians 4:6-7, Romans 5:5, Psalm 16:11, 40:16, Isaiah 40:29-31, Amos 5:4, Psalm 69:32).
Looks like this Short Commentary is jam packed with food for thought and good for you sister.

Shalom.

J.
 

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When we seek whose face . HIS FACE .
verily verily i say unto thee that many rather seek the face of whom they DESIRE to see AS GOD , AS CHRIST
and yet the image they embrace REBELS against THE ONE TRUE GOD and HIS CHRIST .
In other words , many were drawn to another image of CHRIST
and thus we see and we understand this was NOT THE DRAWING OF GOD at all but rather
their own flesh drawing them to another image of GOD and of CHRIST , the one that feeds the flesh of man
and teaches REBELLION toward GOD and HIS CHRIST .
But those whom GOD has drawn , HE has Drawn TO THE REAL JESUS THE CHRIST
and HE has put a love FOR TRUTH upon their hearts . The Sealed born again of GOD
would have LOVED GOD , thus LOVED CHRIST , thus LOVED HIS LOVELY WORDS in said bible too
and have then loved their neighbor as their self .
Be encouraged dear sister . and hit the trenches marching ever onwards in the LORD by the power of HIS INDWELLING
GRACE given us IN CHRIST JESUS by the working power of THE SPIRIT of GOD .
I labored more abundantely than them all , wrote paul , YET NOT I , but the grace of GOD . all credit all glory Goes to GOD
and to HIS CHRIST . YEP . now dance a jig of praise round that house rita and just praise and thank the glorious LORD .
TO HE we owe all and let us load Him daily with thunderous praises and thanksgivings .
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Understanding more and more of your teachings, or maybe that should read, Gods teachings from within you @amigo de christo .

Praise God , Brother.

I’m off now to do some house chores....God Bless You and @Marvelloustime , a lovely Sister in Christ.
As you do them chores you just sing and praise the LORD . Let all that has breath praise Him
 

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Happy to see that you agree with me.
You seem to believe that God chooses PERSONS to be saved.
In my post I showed how Ephesians 1:4 gives the HOW persons are saved,
but not individual persons themselves.

Calvinism causes many conflicts in scripture.
This is due to the fact that it is not biblical and was never taught in the Christian faith.
Until, of course, some men made up this theology.

Here are a few conflicts:

1. Calvinists state that God has a will of decree and a will of desire.
Spurgeon agreed that God wishes that all men be saved.
MacArthur has explained it thus: God's will of decree and God's will of desire.

Which brings up the question: If God is sovereign (which all Christians believe BTW) then how is it
that God cannot decree what He desires? Is He such a weak sovereign God?

If man's free will were admitted, the contradiction would disappear, but, alas, calvinism teaches that man has no free will.
So the contradiction remains.

2. James White has stated that Irresistible grace is necessary because unregenerate man is incapable of understanding the gospel,
due to his corruption.

All Christians believe that man is born with sin...but is man so depraved (as Calvinism teaches) that he is INCAPABLE of seeking or understanding God?

Paul stated in Romans 1:16 that the gospel is the power of God UNTO SALVATION....
Calvinism renders powerless the gospel for which Jesus died.

Also, the bible is replete with verses showing that man is CAPABLE of SEEKING God:
Matthew 6:33
But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

Hebrews 11:6
And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

Matthew 7:7
“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

Lamentations 3:25
The Lord is good to those who wait for him, to the soul who seeks him.


And many more...

3. Calvinism teaches that God's grace is irresistible. This means that man MUST accept God's grace of salvation.
It means that man has no free will.

If so, why would the bible command us as to HOW to become saved?
Why would God command us to do what HE KNOWS is impossible for us?

Man DOES HAVE FREE WILL to choose to believe and be saved:
Mark 16:16 BELIEVE AND BE BAPTIZED AND YOU WILL BE SAVED.
John 1:12 TO THOSE THAT BELIEVE IN HIS NAME, HE GAVE TO POWER TO BECOME SONS OF GOD.
Acts 16:31 BEIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS AND YOU WILL BE SAVED.
Matthew 23:37 JESUS SAID: YOU WERE NOT WILLING TO COME TO ME.
Matthew 11:28 COME TO ME ALL WHO LABOR.


And so many more.

So, yes, there are no conflicts in God's word.
But Calvinism creates many conflicts because it's a man-made religion.
You mistake my post. I said there is no conflict in God's word. I did not say you do not interject conflict when you refuse to believe what God says.
 

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HE CHOSE US

Amen!

Followed by the rest of the Truth…

“IF”….We Choose Him, He will KEEP us FOREVER With Him.

“IF”….We Reject Him, He will REJECT us, and Separate us From Him.

“Where”….He shall KEEP us FOREVER With Him, IS ON MANS Habitat, ON Face OF the “EARTH”, Alive, and SEE Him, “as He IS”….
SPIRIT.

“Where”….The REJECTORS shall be Sent Separated FROM Him, IS “IN” the Center of the “EARTH”, Life-LESS, and FORGOTTEN.

WARNING… Be diligent…Be sure…once you cast your Vote….It’s a done deal Forever.

2 Pet. 1:
[10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:


Glory to God,
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You mistake my post. I said there is no conflict in God's word. I did not say you do not interject conflict when you refuse to believe what God says.
OK B,
I didn't mistake your post.
You said there's no conflict in God's Word.
And I showed you how calvinism creates conflict in God's Word.

I believe Christianity as it was established 2,000 years ago.
If you prefer to believe a type of Christianity that was invented 500 years ago by some men,
so be it.

And since it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion with you,
I'll be signing off.

:balloons:
 
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Amen! @Johann , I must go and get these house chores done, God Bless, catch you later.

Looks like this Short Commentary is jam packed with food for thought and good for you sister.
on those feet sister , the time is .............LORD praising and thanking time . lift those hands up sister and let the praises begin .
Let us stay well dug in the bible too .
 

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OK B,
I didn't mistake your post.
You said there's no conflict in God's Word.
And I showed you how calvinism creates conflict in God's Word.

I believe Christianity as it was established 2,000 years ago.
If you prefer to believe a type of Christianity that was invented 500 years ago by some men,
so be it.

And since it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion with you,
I'll be signing off.

:balloons:
You're incapable of reason. And do not read Scripture.
Your argument actually nullifies your screen name.
God will humble you. You intend to inject conflict here by your attitude and false teachings.

Flying away doesn't change this. God will show you this was a bad idea. He is not mocked.
 

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You're incapable of reason. And do not read Scripture.
Your argument actually nullifies your screen name.
God will humble you. You intend to inject conflict here by your attitude and false teachings.

Flying away doesn't change this. God will show you this was a bad idea. He is not mocked.
God's grace is for everyone.
Not just some lucky few as your denomination has taught you.

Seems like You are the one incapable of supporting what you believe with scripture.

Insults are not conducive to to the behavior of a Christian person.
 
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I don't think 1Corinthians 2:14 is being considered.
Good point.

Now the natural man (psuchikos de anthrōpos). Note absence of article here, “A natural man” (an unregenerate man). Paul does not employ modern psychological terms and he exercises variety in his use of all the terms here present as pneuma and pneumatikos, psuchē and psuchikos, sarx and sarkinos and sarkikos.

A helpful discussion of the various uses of these words in the New Testament is given by Burton in his New Testament Word Studies, pp. 62-68, and in his Spirit, Soul, and Flesh. The papyri furnish so many examples of sarx, pneuma, and psuchē that Moulton and Milligan make no attempt at an exhaustive treatment, but give a few miscellaneous examples to illustrate the varied uses that parallel the New Testament. Psuchikos is a qualitative adjective from psuchē (breath of life like anima, life, soul).

Here the Vulgate renders it by animalis and the German by sinnlich, the original sense of animal life as in Jud_1:19; Jas_3:15. In 1Co_15:44, 1Co_15:46 there is the same contrast between psuchikos and pneumatikos as here. The psuchikos man is the unregenerate man while the pneumatikos man is the renewed man, born again of the Spirit of God.

Receiveth not (ou dechetai). Does not accept, rejects, refuses to accept. In Rom_8:7 Paul definitely states the inability (oude gar dunatai) of the mind of the flesh to receive the things of the Spirit untouched by the Holy Spirit. Certainly the initiative comes from God whose Holy Spirit makes it possible for us to accept the things of the Spirit of God. They are no longer “foolishness” (mōria) to us as was once the case (1Co_1:23). Today one notes certain of the intelligentsia who sneer at Christ and Christianity in their own blinded ignorance.

He cannot know them (ou dunatai gnōnai). He is not able to get a knowledge (ingressive second aorist active infinitive of ginōskō).

His helpless condition calls for pity in place of impatience on our part, though such an one usually poses as a paragon of wisdom and commiserates the deluded followers of Christ.

They are spiritually judged (pneumatikōs anakrinetai). Paul and Luke are fond of this verb, though nowhere else in the N.T. Paul uses it only in I Corinthians. The word means a sifting process to get at the truth by investigation as of a judge. In Act_17:11 the Beroeans scrutinized the Scriptures.

These psuchikoi men are incapable of rendering a decision for they are unable to recognize the facts. They judge by the psuchē (mere animal nature) rather than by the pneuma (the renewed spirit).

J.
 
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Of course it is.
many will make war and big ado about predestination .
But i say
Let all who desire to drink of the water of life COME
and it sure is a whole lot simplier to have told folks THE DIRE NEED to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
you see many are also trying to air condition hell
as well as other things .
But this i do know . IF A human being COMETH TO CHRIST , BELIEVETH HE IS THE CHRIST
WELL , THEY WILL BE SAVED . and from that i would then say , now lets get in our bibles
and actually learn this JESUS the CHRIST for many men do teach another jesus and that one wont save and cannot save .
We aint got the time folks think we do .
I have the answer , i truly know the solution . IF ANYONE wants eternal life , THEN BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
what we have right now , even as a type , is a MASSIVE DELUSION coming full force right at all tribes , nations , tongues
and peoples . And man do many love to embrace that lie . that lie i KNOW wont save .
BUT i do know WHO SAVES and i highly suggest rather than making a peace pact under interfaith , WHICH IS OF ANTI CHRIST
and has LED ALL to the lie that i knew it would , LETS TRY reminding this world , these poor lost religoins
and sadly most of even christendom ON WHO DOES SAVE . ABOUT WHO can DELIVER US FROM THE WRATH OF GOD .
THAT BE JESUS THE CHRIST . Have a wondeful day and if you or anyone you know
is entertaining ANY concept of interfaith and finding common ground , FLEE that place and fast . AND NEVER LOOK back
and take anyone you can , and THEY DOG with ya on the way out .
 
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HE CHOSE US

Amen!

Followed by the rest of the Truth…

“IF”….We Choose Him, He will KEEP us FOREVER With Him.

“IF”….We Reject Him, He will REJECT us, and Separate us From Him.

“Where”….He shall KEEP us FOREVER With Him, IS ON MANS Habitat, ON Face OF the “EARTH”, Alive, and SEE Him, “as He IS”….
SPIRIT.

“Where”….The REJECTORS shall be Sent Separated FROM Him, IS “IN” the Center of the “EARTH”, Life-LESS, and FORGOTTEN.

WARNING… Be diligent…Be sure…once you cast your Vote….It’s a done deal Forever.

2 Pet. 1:
[10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:


Glory to God,
Taken
Calling and Election by God.
We did not Elect to believe. The Elect of God.

Ephesians 1:4

For He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless in His presence. In love