Harmful Doctrines Part 1
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Ritajanice
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Ritajanice
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amigo de christo
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IF GOD warned against it , NEVER TELL YOURSELF That JESUS would support it .
What you are doing rita is not good at all . Beware of mathew vines and others .
Just cause JESUS did not make mention of a certain sin , dont mean HE EvER approved of it .
You seem to be trapped in this inclusive diverse intefaith mindset .
You do realize JESUS is not the minstir of any sin . And would and did correct error .
Pual had sommething to write about this very act . You all have no idea
what the judge not movement was really all about . Its a twisted version of judge not .
one that wont correct . OH didnt you write earlier
about how we are to judge THOSE ONTHE INSIDE and even put the wicked one out .
OR maybe that just meant certain sins and not POLITICALLY CORRECT ones .
Ritajanice
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It's not for us to condemn anyone. It's the Lord who is Judge and who will condemn sinners in the end regardless of their type of sins. But the people who were listening to Jesus (the Word made flesh) already knew the written Law and what it instructed and condemned about sexuality.
Again, of course it's not for us to condemn anyone. But neither is it loving to let people perish in thinking their sins of any kind isn't going to lead them to perdition/destruction in the end? Part of the gospel message is........REPENT.
Well, now I know where you are at sister, and I'm sad for you. We need to discern between the righteousness of Christ and the righteousness of man (filthy rags). The righteousness of Christ is in accordance with........TRUTH. It doesn't oppose or contradict the truth.
amigo de christo
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I think the problem is that many now believe to correct people of sins , specially this one , within the church
is condeming . But no it is not condemning at all . we must correct all sinful behavoir and etc within the church .
Folks got trapped into a seeker friendly mindset of judge not . the wrong kind of version .
Many believe its condemning to actually correct the members of the body . But it is not , its actually needful .
And that would include even the so called politcally correct sins . ALL sins must be exposed and corrected within
the Church . Also many seem to not seem to be able to tell the difference
between a repentant sinner and an unrepantant .
example .
They will often falsely accuse those who do correct
by saying , OH so you gonna put all that were gay out of the church .
NOPE . Because we all were sinners .
ITS THOSE WHO CONTINUE to pratice it and justify it that must be put out of church .
I have seen true testimonies of those who were once homosexual .
TAKE HEED they all admit it was wrong and that CHRIST set them free and that they no longer
desire to identify with it.
But those who IDENTIFY with sin , THEY ARE THE NON repentant .
I mean you dont see me running around identifying with sins ,
But you will hear it often said , OH I AM A GAY CHRISTAIN or etc . SINCE
when do true christians IDENTIFY WITH SIN . WE SHOULD Rather hate sin , even the sinful thoughts that are within
our own flesh . But it sure seems to me like many rather JUSTIFY and try and find their IDENTITY
with CHRIST and SIN . that dont exist sister . We are christain , to be dead to sins , NOT ALIVE to sin AND JUSTIFYING OUR SIN .
Ritajanice
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A New Heart and Spirit
…26I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27And I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes and to carefullyobserve My ordinances. 28Then you will live in the land that I gave your forefathers; you will be My people, and I will be your God.
…26I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27And I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes and to carefullyobserve My ordinances. 28Then you will live in the land that I gave your forefathers; you will be My people, and I will be your God.
amigo de christo
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a new heart a new spirit . One that causes us to LOVE HONOR AND OBEY THE LORD GOD
not one that causes us to justify sin . I had that heart once . I justifed my sin . but then i was not born again yet .
God changes the heart all right .
And a hint , ITS NOT THE SIN WE JUSTIFIY any more . SO lets keep that in mind
shall we . Any and all who cliam to love the homosexual , but allows that one to beleive thier sin is fine
is okay , HATE THEM and only helps in their destruction .
SO lets not hate our neighbor in our heart , LETS in any way correct the brethren and not allow sin upon them .
But even that has gotten worse as many now even allow THE SIN OF UNBELIEF and holler judge not other relgoins
our truth is no better than theirs . INTERFAITH is of satan sister . just wanted to remind you of that .
SEEMS to me like christendom has been invaded with love all right
ONLY IT AINT OF GOD , its of the world and has led them to rebellion against GOD , His CHRIST , his lovely words .
DO keep in mind , satan can quoate scrips , but boy is he gonna twist them for he desires nothing but DEATH for all .
Ritajanice
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John 7:16-18 Amplified Bible (AMP) If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know whether the teaching is of God or whether I speak on My own accord and by My own authority. He who speaks on his own accord seeks glory and honor for himself.
2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
19 There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
21 Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?
22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.
23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.
24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,
40 And went away again beyond Jordan into the place where John at first baptized; and there he abode.
41 And many resorted unto him, and said, John did no miracle: but all things that John spake of this man were true.
42 And many believed on him there.
John 10
King James Version
10 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
19 There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
21 Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?
22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.
23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.
24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,
40 And went away again beyond Jordan into the place where John at first baptized; and there he abode.
41 And many resorted unto him, and said, John did no miracle: but all things that John spake of this man were true.
42 And many believed on him there.
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Exactly.
I know you are not going to like it, but notice the pattern, pay attention to the first poster who starts to judge and to condemn.
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Yeah. Real Christians don't think homosexuality is sin? Right.
Just the same, those who say such things are ignorant of Jesus' teaching. Ignorance plays a large part in the problems in this forum I think.
Much love!
Last time I checked, this is a Bible forum.
Ritajanice
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I have as much right to voice what I believe as much as you.
What right do you have to RANT AND RAVE @Episkopos ..you are a big sly hypocrite.
Some on here are religious Bible thumpers. My opinion.
Yes you do, no matter what it may be, tit for tat, or something meaningful.
Of course we all reveal our hearts by our words. So there's that.
Much love!
Ritajanice
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There are no such things. I don't hate him, and I don't hate you. I'm not here to play with hate. Nor am I here to defend myself, so if your accusations go unanswered, that will be why. Show me one of these "hate filled posts" of mine. It's just more vain accusation.
I don't see much fruitfulness here, do you?
Much love!
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