Hamas has attacked Israel with 5000 rockets, 100 dead Israelis. Israel and Hamas now at war

[Truthnightmare]

We already did, in the Scriptures I've shown to you. You can believe the Bible, or your other sources. Your choice.

Much love!

The Bible is my source, we simply interpret what is being said differently. Jesus made it quite clear there are men who claim to be of Judah (Jews) but they are liars. So who are these people? Who was Jesus referring to?

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Who delivered us out of the power of darkness and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of His love

"... Thy kingdom come thy will be done, ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN ..."
It is interesting that you quote Col. 1:16-17 and you don't really know what it means. Jesus is the Creator! He wasn't created, didn't create Himself. He created all things and in Him all things consist ( are held together). Every atom is held together in Him.That means He is all powerful, all knowing, and omniscient.

 

[BlessedPeace]

And planed in advance, Both Ukraine and this with Israel.

Joe Biden gets in and look his Mob feed them Wars. The snail trail leads to Joe Biden and his Mob, lefty's and their works must be understood, for they are at war 24/7 using every and any means and their " means to an ends" is their motto !

Such intentions of theirs should be exposed, you see the wars set on everything going on from promoting sexual depravity and everything that is Godless !
For they are Anti-Christ in fact, Bible says, You will know them by their works !
They are full of deceptions and delusions, masters of such in fact !

In fairness both parties in the U.S profit from war.

Remember Bush43 and the WMD's he was certain SH had stockpiled?

When it was Bin Laden in Afghanistan who was one actor behind 9-11?

How many billionaire friends of GW Jr. boast of the ancient artifacts they "collected" from that effort? And that's just one piece of that orchestrated puzzle.

High Treason doesn't even begin to cover the premeditated slaughter of over 3000 Americans in our homeland.

And he was "re-elected"!

 

[Grailhunter]

On October 3, Israeli settlers stormed Jerusalem's al-Aqsa Mosque and marched through Palestinian neighborhoods …

Awwww! So sad! You mean they did not burn it to the ground. Oh well maybe next time....we can only hope.

 

[BlessedPeace]

FOX News ongoing live coverage

Israel fends off aggression at Lebanon border as it prepares to invade Gaza

On October 16, Israeli Defense Forces are poised to begin a groun operation in Gaza against Hamas terrorists. Meanwhile, Hezbollah is carrying out attacks at Israel's northern border, and Iran is threatening to join the conflict.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Grailhunter]

Why does Iran hate Israel?

Stands to reason. The Muslim god is Satan and he hates anyone that loves God.

 

[Grailhunter]

You like many others don’t seem to grasp the concept of the word “Jew” it is merely a translation.

So so will ask you the same… who was the first Jew?

Well you cannot really blame him, the J slam warped a lot of what people understand of the ancient world. No J’s in the scriptures. Hebrew/Israelite/Jews are designations like Leonardo De Vinci is what we call him but its not like De Vinci was his last name. De means from…Leonardo from Vinci.

 

[Scott Downey]

Iran clarifies it will 'intervene' with Israel when they invade Gaza on the ground.

Iran Warns It Will Intervene For One Purpose

Given Iran's long-standing support for Hamas, considering the group as a delegate for executing attacks on its behalf, the Iranian Foreign Minister, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, engaged in discussions regarding the ongoing conflict. Amir-Abdollahian clarified that Iran

www.analyzingamerica.org

 

[APAK]

"... Thy kingdom come thy will be done, ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN ..."
It is interesting that you quote Col. 1:16-17 and you don't really know what it means. Jesus is the Creator! He wasn't created, didn't create Himself. He created all things and in Him all things consist ( are held together). Every atom is held together in Him.That means He is all powerful, all knowing, and omniscient.

Well you are going off topic here although I will just make one I guess brief solid cut comment regarding what you think you I do not know here.

If you believe what I quoted as a couple or threes verses has anything to do with the Genesis creation you are truly mistaken. And I really do know what I mean here. I challenge you to read the entire area of this subject before verse 16 and beyond verse 17 as well. It is not about the creation of Zebras and gravity I assure you. It has everything to do with the new creation of a new man, as Christ is the first, and his creation with the Father of the structure and governance of the Kingdom, new powers, authorities and things in heaven and on earth.....does that sound like a Genesis creation? Of course not and you might be embarrassing yourself here.

And yes, the kingdom DID come as via the words of that prayer, when Christ ascended into heaven with the Spirt of God as his new power to then create this Kingdom. And the new believers on earth and those in heaven would work for the same purpose of doing the will of God in the new establish Kingdom. Thy will be done....This is what the mystery that Paul was speaking of that was kept hidden in God for so long and revealed in Christ. The new man, creation of the Body of Christ in the Kingdom of the Father. Do you see this very obvious point?!

I would not brush these things aside and move on. I would seriously review it all in their proper perspective.

Do you then think that the Genesis creation now needs holding together by Christ. Too funny. No, he in the head and as King holds the new creation of believers and the structure of the Kingdom together then and today. He is in charge and the boss, .that is what is meant by holding it together...easy enough to understand I would think..

'every atom held together'...I need to hold back the laughter....

 

[Truthnightmare]

Well you cannot really blame him, the J slam warped a lot of what people understand of the ancient world. No J’s in the scriptures. Hebrew/Israelite/Jews are designations like Leonardo De Vinci is what we call him but its not like De Vinci was his last name. De means from…Leonardo from Vinci.

And I don’t, however we live in a time where the truth is at the tips of your fingers.

Daniel 12:6
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, even to the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.”

With this increased knowledge, is it really so hard for someone that is searching for knowledge to gather the following?

Jew” means a follower of Judaism, which is the corrupted religion of the Old Testament era Hebrews founded during the Babylonian captivity of approx. 500 b.c. It is not the religion of the Hebrews in the Old Testament handed down from God to Moses on the Mount, but rather, it is a Babylonian corruption of that religion founded not on the Old Testament Scriptures but rather upon the Babylonian Talmud (added writings, the oral TRADITIONS of the ancient Rabbis) and the Kabbalah (Jewish mysticism). These facts are not disputed by the Rabbis themselves.

Once told the truth, now it becomes rejection not deception.

 

[Grailhunter]

And I don’t, however we live in a time where the truth is at the tips of your fingers.

Daniel 12:6
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, even to the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.”

With this increased knowledge, is it really so hard for someone that is searching for knowledge to gather the following?

Jew” means a follower of Judaism, which is the corrupted religion of the Old Testament era Hebrews founded during the Babylonian captivity of approx. 500 b.c. It is not the religion of the Hebrews in the Old Testament handed down from God to Moses on the Mount, but rather, it is a Babylonian corruption of that religion founded not on the Old Testament Scriptures but rather upon the Babylonian Talmud (added writings, the oral TRADITIONS of the ancient Rabbis) and the Kabbalah (Jewish mysticism). These facts are not disputed by the Rabbis themselves.

Once told the truth, now it becomes rejection not deception.

Oh so this is a word study…..OK….

The English term Jew originates from the Hebrew word Yehudi, meaning "from the Kingdom of Yehuda " It does not mean follower of Yahadut.

It passed into Greek as Ioudaios and Latin as Iudaeus, which evolved into the Old French giu after the letter "d" was dropped. The English terms Judah, Jew, and Judaism are again the end result of the “J” slam in the English Language that went through the scriptures and change the “Ys” to “Js” Yob, Yoshua, Yericho, Yacob, Yoseph Yames, Yerusalem were some of the other victims.

Corruptions of ancient religions?…. Ok ….the Muslims worship Satan….Modern Judaism has about 7 different sects and at the last count Christianity has over 30,000 denominations. So are we going to set our crosshairs on any one particular?

So other than that what is your point?

 

[Truthnightmare]

Oh so this is a word study…..OK….

The English term Jew originates from the Hebrew word Yehudi, meaning "from the Kingdom of Yehuda " It does not mean follower of Yahadut.

It passed into Greek as Ioudaios and Latin as Iudaeus, which evolved into the Old French giu after the letter "d" was dropped. The English terms Judah, Jew, and Judaism are again the end result of the “J” slam in the English Language that went through the scriptures and change the “Ys” to “Js” Yob, Yoshua, Yericho, Yacob, Yoseph Yames, Yerusalem were some of the other victims.

Corruptions of ancient religions…. Ok ….the Muslims worship Satan….Modern Judaism has about 7 different sects and at the last count Christianity has over 30,000 denominations. So are we going to set our crosshairs on any one particular?

So other than that what is your point?

I never indicated word study was the premise to my position on what is being discussed within this thread.
My point is simple! The modern day Jews are not descendants of the biblical Israelites. Therefor ignorant Christian that support them are not supporting the chosen people of whom the Bible speaks.

Have you been reading the thread?

And yes, there is a certain group of Jews one should keep an eye on.
They are the tares from Matthew 13
They are the liars spoken of Revelation 2:9 and 3:9
They are the Jews Jesus deemed as the synagogue of Satan.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

. I challenge you to read the entire area of this subject before verse 16 and beyond verse 17 as well. It is not about the creation of Zebras and gravity I assure you. It has everything to do with the new creation of a new man, as Christ is the first, and his creation with the Father of the structure and governance of the Kingdom, new powers, authorities and things in heaven and on earth.....does that sound like a Genesis creation?

It is about the creation of everything physical and non-physical.
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. Col. 1:16-17
I remember diagramming sentences in the 4th grade, putting everything in place for perspective: nouns, adjectives, verbs, adverbs and then defining each word.
What does "by Him all things were created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible imply? I think a 4th grader can get that. You however want to assign a symbolic and limited meaning to it. The new creature is included in all things in heaven. Angels are included, even heaven itself, since all things in heaven were created would imply that without all those things, heaven would be empty. But what about all things on earth and then might as well say the universe, because that falls under all things visible - zebras included. You laugh at things a 4th grader can get even without the Holy Spirit helping him get it.

Do you then think that the Genesis creation now needs holding together by Christ. Too funny. No, he in the head and as King holds the new creation of believers and the structure of the Kingdom together then and today. He is in charge and the boss, .that is what is meant by holding it together...easy enough to understand I would think..

Most of the English translations for "consist" in Col. 1:17 use "hold together".
His power holds the universe together. This includes all forms of energy, the physics of the universe. But beyond those missing principles within the fine-tuned mathematics (the quantum mechanics and such theories), there are spiritual forces involved in holding it all together and that brings us to Christ. It is His power that holds it all together. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

every atom held together'...I need to hold back the laughter....

He is holding your laugher together too. Your heart beating, blood flowing, systems within systems continue to function, organs, cells, brain functions, (thoughts, but obviously not all of them - some are out in left field) and the sound that comes out of your mouth as laughter.
You cannot grasp the deity of Christ. But that will be forgiven, Jesus, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, Phil. 2:6
You degrade who He is and laugh about it. You see him obviously as a lesser God ( or angel), a created being and in so doing, it degrades and diminishes your relationship with, trust and faith in Him. It is a dishonor to deny Him His due praise and worship. I mean really, we are not to worship anyone but God. It would be a sin to put any god before Him. We are to glorify Jesus. The Holy Spirit and Father glorifies Him. You struggle with concept. If you dishonor the Son, you dishonor the Father
Every knee will bow and worship Him, because He is God.

 

[marks]

The Jews speaking…
“We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man”

You suggest they know they were in bondage and they were just denying it?

If we take the “that’s not really what they meant approach” we can rewrite the entire Bible.

No, the Bible means what it says. Do you know that the Bible faithfully records people's words even when they are lies? Think about the prophets that were against Jeremiah. They told lies, and the Bible recorded it. The fact that the Bible records accurately the words of various people does not mean those words are themselves true.

And, um, you can ask around . . . I'm pretty much the last guy who's not going to hold to the words of the text. But enough about me!

Now, re-writing the Bible, that seems to be in abundance! Lot's of people doing that!

Much love!

 

[marks]

In fairness both parties in the U.S profit from war.

Remember Bush43 and the WMD's he was certain SH had stockpiled?

When it was Bin Laden in Afghanistan who was one actor behind 9-11?

How many billionaire friends of GW Jr. boast of the ancient artifacts they "collected" from that effort? And that's just one piece of that orchestrated puzzle.

High Treason doesn't even begin to cover the premeditated slaughter of over 3000 Americans in our homeland.

And he was "re-elected"!

Trump . . . The President without wars!

Much love!

 

[marks]

Can’t have your cake and eat it to.
Either these Jews were in bondage in Egypt, thus they would not be descendants of Cain, making Christ words a lie.

Speaking of re-writing Scripture, you've changed this from "the devil", to Cain, whose line perished in the flood:

John 8:42-45 KJV
42) Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43) Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45) And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Much love!

 

[BlessedPeace]

Trump . . . The President without wars!

Much love!

True. A true leader of the people.

 

[Scott Downey]

I don’t believe so. They were not in bondage nor did Jesus say they were. They had Abraham as there father because they mixed into the bloodline.

That’s a very dangerous approach to rendering scripture you have taken.

The Jews speaking…
“We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man”

You suggest they know they were in bondage and they were just denying it?

If we take the “that’s not really what they meant approach” we can rewrite the entire Bible.

More importantly, that type of thinking destroys what Christ said.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Cain was the first murderer. Jesus said they are of Cain.
The word “of”
ek or ex: from, from out of
Original Word: ἐκ, ἐξ
Part of Speech: Preposition
Transliteration: ek or ex
Phonetic Spelling: (ek)
Definition: from, from out of
Usage: from out, out from among, from, suggesting from the interior outwards.

Can’t have your cake and eat it to.
Either these Jews were in bondage in Egypt, thus they would not be descendants of Cain, making Christ words a lie.

Or they were not in Egypt as they said, making Christ words true as they are descendants of Cain, the first murderer!

Jesus said they were of Cain, the descendants of Cain were never in bondage in Egypt. If we take your approach, then you need to prove the descendants of Cain were in Egypt. This you can NOT do because they weren’t. And they told you you they weren’t.

John 8, 37 “I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. 38 I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have [n]seen with your father.”

All Jesus says is they are Abrahams's descendants according to the flesh, their genealogy is true, straight back to Abraham. But spiritually they are of the devil, meaning God is not their Father, they are not born of God, so they are not God's children, none of them are of God. They follow the devil, note Ephesians 2.

Those who are 'of God' hear God speak, and they love Christ as they are being 'of God' have been born again by the Spirit.

If you are not of God you won't hear God speak and you will hate Christ, even to seek to kill Christ as children of the devil hate Christ and seek to kill Christ.

This is a spiritual truth being exposed here.

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.

47 He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”

1 John 5
Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.

John 10
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His [c]own, and His [d]own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [e]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

[Truthnightmare]

John 8, 37 “I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. 38 I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have [n]seen with your father.”

All Jesus says is they are Abrahams's descendants according to the flesh, their genealogy is true, straight back to Abraham. But spiritually they are of the devil, meaning God is not their Father, they are not born of God, so they are not God's children, none of them are of God. They follow the devil, note Ephesians 2.

Those who are 'of God' hear God speak, and they love Christ as they are being 'of God' have been born again by the Spirit.

If you are not of God you won't hear God speak and you will hate Christ, even to seek to kill Christ as children of the devil hate Christ and seek to kill Christ.

This is a spiritual truth being exposed here.

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.

47 He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”

1 John 5
Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.

John 10
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His [c]own, and His [d]own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [e]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

We know the Jews here are the descendants of Cain.

Please show where these people were in Egypt as slaves.
Genesis 4
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.

19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.

21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.

24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

 

[Truthnightmare]

John 8, 37 “I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. 38 I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have [n]seen with your father.”

All Jesus says is they are Abrahams's descendants according to the flesh, their genealogy is true, straight back to Abraham. But spiritually they are of the devil, meaning God is not their Father, they are not born of God, so they are not God's children, none of them are of God. They follow the devil, note Ephesians 2.

Those who are 'of God' hear God speak, and they love Christ as they are being 'of God' have been born again by the Spirit.

If you are not of God you won't hear God speak and you will hate Christ, even to seek to kill Christ as children of the devil hate Christ and seek to kill Christ.

This is a spiritual truth being exposed here.

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.

47 He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”

1 John 5
Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.

John 10
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His [c]own, and His [d]own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [e]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

They said they were never in bondage, Jesus didn’t correct them, you have not the authority to do so.

You’re simply changing scripture to match what you choose to believe.

There wasn’t even a such thing as a Jew in the book of Exodus, so your notion is beyond incorrect.