God's 7,000 Year Plan
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Never heard of a time table.
Heard no one knows the time but God and he's not saying.
But men sure like to guess.
Heard no one knows the time but God and he's not saying.
But men sure like to guess.
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As I understand the short term 7000 year plan is to completely repair the damage that was caused by the fall of man. Whereby Jesus assumes all authority that was originally given to man over the earth. Man submitted his authority to Satan by listening to him in the garden. Christ overcame satan through obedience to God even to his own death. So now we wait for the Father to restore the earth to him because he has earned it.
Matt 24:36 is what is called an "idiom". We can know the day and hour but not the year. We can know that rapture falls on the Feast of Trumpets, and we can know that the Lord comes to nonbelievers as a thief, not believers. Paul writes, "times and dates we do not need to write to you", he wrote that because will will know when rapture is here. You don't need to write a warning to someone who already knows when it will come. "Times and dates" is referring to the Feast of Trumpets...pom2014 said:
Gen 1:14 NIV And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years,
Matt 24:36-44 NIV “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. 42“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
1 Thess 5:1-4 NIV Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.
I do believe God has a 7,000 year plan, and He is fulfilling it 2 Pet 3:8 NIV. - ATP
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Christians have been creating timetables for God since the beginning, despite Jesus's warnings against it. Jesus refused to do it so why we are obsessed with do so is beyond me. All of it is a complete waste of time.
Because it makes them feel good when someone says how clever you are for figuring it all out.aspen said:
It is a pat on the head feeling.
What exactly is false about the 7,000 year plan. Am I missing something.
Gen 2:2 NIV By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.
Ex 35:2 NIV For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a day of sabbath rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it is to be put to death.
Psalm 90:4 NIV A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.
2 Pet 3:8 NIV But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
Rev 20:4 NIV I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Gen 2:2 NIV By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.
Ex 35:2 NIV For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a day of sabbath rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it is to be put to death.
Psalm 90:4 NIV A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.
2 Pet 3:8 NIV But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
Rev 20:4 NIV I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
ATP - you are continuing to miss something. You are over interpreting the number 7. It simply means 'complete'
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
My point is clear. The number 7 is not used to predict the future or tell us about how God plans to wrap history up. It just means 'complete'. It seems that you would not only like the Bible to be a science text, but also a historical text, according to modern standards. History was recorded differently in the ancient world
The number 7 is the most used number in scripture, especially in the future, 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 bowls..aspen said:
But isn't the definition of "complete" defined as wrapping things up? :wacko:aspen said:
Yeah and the Jews also have a calender. Which calendar are you following aspen, God's or the pagan's?aspen said:
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
OK ATP, you win.
Your ask and answer threads aren't for discussion - they are just for you to reassure yourself with your own words.
Not sure why I decided to respond after our last discussion. Hopefully I've learned my lesson this time.
Your ask and answer threads aren't for discussion - they are just for you to reassure yourself with your own words.
Not sure why I decided to respond after our last discussion. Hopefully I've learned my lesson this time.
The scriptures speak for themselves in post 7. And further, many people believe that the year 1967 (when Israel regained control of Jerusalem for the first time in thousands of years) marked the end of the 119th “year” or Jubilee cycle, and began the 120th Jubilee cycle. If that is true, then 2017 may mark the end of the 120th “year,” the last of the Jubilee cycles ordained by God for man Gen 6:3 NIV. 120 x 50 = 6,000aspen said:
I don't think it can be that soon because the times of the Gentiles or Israel's having been cast off has to be completed. They were cast off in 70 AD. when their temple was destroyed. In Leviticus 26 God tells Israel that if they keep His law He will be with them, but if they don't He will chastise them seven times more. He says this four times. The question is, seven times more than what? I believe He means seven time more than the first captivity which was 70 years. If He chastises them 7 times more than 70 it would be 490 years. God said this four times. Four times 490 equals 1960 years. If that chastisement began when Israel was cast off in AD 70 that would put the end of the "times of the Gentiles" at 2030. Actually, it's the end of 2029. I think that's when we will see the 7 year tribulation begin.ATP said:
That's a good analysis. I also believe the third temple being built will be a result of these blood moons. Honestly, I can't think of any more prophecies that would ignite end times.Butch5 said:
1. Third temple precedes Psalm 83
2. Psalm 83 precedes Ez 38-39
3. Ez 38-39 precedes the day of the Lord which is the great tribulation.
What do you think. The fact that there is a 7,000 year plan brings comfort to me, in a good way. 6,000-7,000 years will be the Millennium Reign :)
I'm not real familiar with the blood moons but it does seem like it could be. I think the times of the Gentiles can also be figured another way. Hosea prophesied that Israel would be cast off for two days.ATP said:
KJV Hosea 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. (Hos 6:1-2 KJV)
I think we can be pretty certain that this is not two 24 hour days as we don't find Israel being cast off and revived two days later. I think this is the prophetic day that David and Peter spoke of, ; a day with the Lord is as a thousand years.' If that's the case then he means they would be cast off for 2000 years and after the third day (1000 years) they would be revived.
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