God is not a crutch

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year2027

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Name any person that is not a bigotry and narrow-mindedness

Can you any one name a person that does not let pride get in there way

can you name that does not used the bible to prove that other person wrong or right

we used God as a Crutch or the bible

but God is not suppose to used like that

God is our father

God is our way we live when live in love first

God is our master

God is not crutch but is how we walk

not a crutch to help us walk but how we walk

with love and a holy kiss Roy
 

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Name any person that is not a bigotry and narrow-mindedness

Can you any one name a person that does not let pride get in there way

can you name that does not used the bible to prove that other person wrong or right

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You forgot eminently humble and soft spoken. ;)
 

thisistheendtimes

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You said...."God is not supposed to be USED like that".

God is not supposed to "BE USED">>>PERIOD!.

God is NOT our master, He want US each to be our own master. He tells us this in scripture, but does humanity want to listen to HIS will?......NO, we'd rather listen to what man has to say and any COMMANDS we can find.

We have decided to agree with satan that we are unable to 'do goodness' unless we are COMMANDED/ordered,......and so we consider God to be THE MASTER who will order us to "do goodness", BUT we are each to be a LOVER OF GOODNESS that has no need of COMMANDS....

"lover of goodness, master of himself" (Titus 1:8).

God wants to be "Abba Father" to each of us (and then we can be a SON of HIS, son of God, son of the most high).

Romans 8:15
"For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the spirit of sonship. When we cry, "Abba! Father!".........also read Galatians 4:6....our goal is to be a son of God...yes or no?.

Deutoronomy 32:8 "he fixed the bounds of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God".

Psalm 14:2
"The LORD looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any that act wisely, that seek after God".....Psalm 53:2 says "sons of men" (the man-child unbeliever).

Luke 6:35
"expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High".

If we disregard all of satan's lies that have been taught for centuries, we will go from being a "son of man" to a SON OF GOD.

Psalm 82:6 "I say, "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you".

....but will we ever read scripture for ourselves instead of how we're told to. We must stop ignoring what is actually IN SCRIPTURE. It is MAN who tells us to "IGNORE" (because man only wants our MONEY and obedience to THEM).

Decide now,...is God your Father or your master.
 

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[sup]There we go again, modifying what is in scripture to our liking. It's not "Abba DADDY", it's "Abba FATHER".[/sup]

[sup]It's been done for 19 and a half centuries (why not just call Him "Abba Dude"?.[/sup]

[sup]"DADDY" is disrespectful (when thoughts are to GOD).. "DADDY" is an earthly term for a person of A SET OF PARENTS that we often include a sloppy attitude towards (God is LORD OF LORDS).[/sup]

[sup]God doesn't want you to approach Him with a suit on, but have SOME respect for convention (and His will).[/sup]
 

year2027

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thanks Thisistheendtimes and prism

thank you my friends

God is my master because I will it that but Master has about meaning as father one let one lead him

this is not last times for some but others it is

is not what the vain bible but in the heart of scripture

the is paper book its a living book wrote our hearts

with love and a holy kiss Roy
 

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Very often, you will hear an atheist say that they don't believe in righteousness (but yet they are very righteous in behavior and attitude). Not to make them a saint/angel, but the reason they don't believe in righteousness AS A CONCEPT is because they know/recognize nothing else except what they believe to be right (how is a fish to know/believe that there is such a thing as water?). So, TRUE atheists are LOVERS of goodness (they have a SPIRIT of righteousness).

Sports players have a team spirit, soldiers have a fighting spirit. Do you have a peaceful and righteous spirit (a spirit of peace, truth, and justice).

Satan has always gotten man to teach that the only spirit that should matter to us is GOD'S spirit, but The Lord's will is that OUR SPIRIT be compatible with His. That is why He left us HIS living spirit to be our teacher/trainer. The book/bible is not to replace God's spirit as our teacher, the book is only an ADDITIONAL guide to our understanding (a reference GUIDE that can offer additional UNDERSTANDING/explanation).....we should not depend AT ALL on earthly spiritual teachers.

Romans 8:16
"it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God".

Ephesians 3:16 "his Spirit in the inner man".

God put His 'seed' (DNA if you will) inside of every human being at creation. MANY/most people in the world have simply ignored it (just like "CONSCIENCE" is also ignored), but God tells us that if we look for that 'seed' sincerely after accepting Jesus as savior and then moving on to a deep-hearted LOVE RELATIONSHIP to GOD ONLY (not man/pastors/ministers AND GOD), then we will receive "the anointing" (Godly common sense)...

1 John 2:27
"but the anointing which you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that any one should teach you; as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie".

....but mankind has always chosen EARTHLY/worldly spiritual teachers instead so as to receive the APPROVAL OF MAN instead of only the approval of GOD only (for the sake of PRIDE).

I'm not sure I understand your understanding that God can be used as a "crutch".

SATAN has always lent himself to humanity as a scapegoat for all of our wrongdoings, we blame all of our misgivings on satan (we say "satan made me do this" and "satan made me do that" never accepting responsibility for our own actions).

One of the greatest understandings that we can have is that "The world, the flesh, and the devil" are RELEVANT to each other. The "flesh" is not innately wicked, "the flesh" is simply the mortal human WEAKNESS. Satan has no POWER, he can only TEMPT (it has always been TAUGHT that he has power on earth, but he is being restrained).

2 Thessalonians 2:6
"And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time".

Of course, this involves a "MYSTERY" (hidden from those who'd rather not acknowledge responsibility for their own actions and choose to use satan as their scapegoat).

When our spirit can relate to AND IDENTIFY WITH God's spirit, then we can be sons of God. The "what" in 2 Thess. 2:6 is the COMBINATION of God's spirit and ours,......(without that understanding, the "mystery of lawlessness" remains a "MYSTERY").

We have always been taught many 'perditious' lies since the Council of Jerusalem (about 50 A.D., Acts 11:26). Today's "Christianity" is the result/outcome of all that "perdition" (unbeknownst to us, today's congregational "church" is the "son of" perdition).

We've always been taught about the 3 manifestations/dispensations (aspects) of God (Father, Son, Spirit), but in a way that doesn't glorify GOD ONLY, the common teachings glorify MAN (ministers and MAN'S ways)......the common teachings glorify MAN (the sixth day creation.....3 sixes)......WE/humanity/and false believers are our/their own 666 son of perdition when we choose to be lawless.

God is never a crutch to those who wish to give "spiritual"/PERFECT LOVE to HIM only ("draw near", Hebrews 11:6).

"There is no fear in love,....PERFECT love casts out fear"....

....(DON'T be a God fearing person, our only attitude towards God should be LOVE). When and if He ever decides it is necessary to teach you the error of your way, do not resent/fear His loving instruction/correction.

It is true that many believers use God and scripture as an excuse to chew out/rebuke other people, but other than that, God is not the crutch, our flesh is when we choose to let our mortal weakness run our lives.

Mark 12:30 says that we are not to leave any room in us for FEAR (fear was only the BEGINNING of wisdom, but when becoming a believer, love for God should become PERFECT (NO FEAR of God, no fear of satan).

....NO FEAR, NO "CRUTCH", NO 'controlling' WEAKNESS (the flesh is weak, but let the spirit teach you to overcome it).

I use the RSV, it is more accurate in meaning and the words used are more explanatory/meaningful (you will notice some difference from the ESV used here. You can check many versions at.....

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=doctrine+of+Christ&t=RSV&sf=5
 

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[sup]There we go again, modifying what is in scripture to our liking. It's not "Abba DADDY", it's "Abba FATHER".[/sup]

[sup]It's been done for 19 and a half centuries (why not just call Him "Abba Dude"?.[/sup]

[sup]"DADDY" is disrespectful (when thoughts are to GOD).. "DADDY" is an earthly term for a person of A SET OF PARENTS that we often include a sloppy attitude towards (God is LORD OF LORDS).[/sup]

[sup]God doesn't want you to approach Him with a suit on, but have SOME respect for convention (and His will).[/sup]

Maybe you need to take a deep breath and a break....
 

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[sup]There we go again, modifying what is in scripture to our liking. It's not "Abba DADDY", it's "Abba FATHER".[/sup]

[sup]It's been done for 19 and a half centuries (why not just call Him "Abba Dude"?.[/sup]

[sup]"DADDY" is disrespectful (when thoughts are to GOD).. "DADDY" is an earthly term for a person of A SET OF PARENTS that we often include a sloppy attitude towards (God is LORD OF LORDS).[/sup]

[sup]God doesn't want you to approach Him with a suit on, but have SOME respect for convention (and His will).[/sup]

He's my Daddy, or as Abba means---Papa! He loves it when I come to Him with such intimacy. He created us for that. There should be no formal barriers between us. He sends His Spirit to break them down while so many of us are building them up.
 

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nothing wrong with a crutch.....

I tend to think of Him as life support, actually.
 

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Jesus is my Dad :)
His Wife is His Heavenly Jerusalem City and Temple, the Church, My Mother :)
By Him I cry Abba Father!
He Comes in to me and dwells as One in me forever in Righteous Joy and Peace in His Holy Spirit.
All what Abraham was Promised, fulfilled in us who Love one another
Peace brethren
 

year2027

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thanks Thisistheendtimes and aspen and Livery Stone and prism and Phillip

he lets you direct your paths because your a robot are you

God inspired us God does program us

with love and a holy kiss Roy
 

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God first

thanks Thisistheendtimes and aspen and Livery Stone and prism and Phillip

he lets you direct your paths because your a robot are you

God inspired us God does program us

with love and a holy kiss Roy

Yes, God first! However we are not robots. We come to Him becasue we experience His great love and mercy. God's desire is for us to love Him and to exercise our will, which is now controlled by the renewed mind.

Psalm 119:40
I long to obey your commandments! Renew my life with your goodness.

Ephesians 4:23
Instead, let the Spirit renew your thoughts and attitudes.

Colossians 3:10
Put on your new nature, and be renewed as you learn to know your Creator and become like him.