God is in control

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Mike Tang 1991

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If God is in control, does this mean that God wanted the Islamic theocracy of Afghanistan to be set up?

Islam has managed to set up a BRAND NEW theocracy, while Christianity has a total of 0 theocracies (except Vatican City)

So if God is in control, can we then deduce that the Islam God is infact the "correct version" based on the fact that God's SOVEREIGNTY is active in Islamic theocracies

Islam is ALSO projected to overtake and replace Christianity as the world's main religion by year 2070 - https://www.usatoday.com/amp/70769318

Based on these current trajectories, in 1000 years islam will BY FAR be the world's largest religion, and Christianity will be like the new Judaism (replaced)

Could these real world events be confirmation of Prophet Muhammad's (and Islam's) legitimacy? (Since God is in control)
 

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If God is in control, does this mean that God wanted the Islamic theocracy of Afghanistan to be set up?

So if God is in control, can we then deduce that the Islam God is infact the "correct version" based on the fact that God's SOVEREIGNTY is active in Islamic theocracies

Could these real world events be confirmation of Prophet Muhammad's (and Islam's) legitimacy? (Since God is in control)

God is in control: so it means He permitted this evil.

It does not mean Islam or true or that Muhammad is any more than a false prophet (among many other evil things he did). If God's sovereignty meant what you seem to think then it would mean a contradiction: God both hates murder and murder is the correct thing to do, since He permits it to be done. Bad things happening does not mean that they are "good" or "correct" but that they were permitted by God for a greater good.

While we do not know the specifics of why every instance of evil was permitted some have been revealed to us: Joseph was sold into slavery to save his people, the man was born blind to reveal God's glory in healing Him, Christ suffered death that He might conquer it bringing life to all. Those are just three examples from Scripture (and I am sure many more can be brought up). In all instances evil is permitted so that greater goods may come. It does not mean God approves of the thing done, it means it was permitted.
 

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Sovereignty of God


My heart was really stirred this last month. I attended a meeting where an old friend of mine was ministering. He had been through some terrible things that nearly destroyed his faith. He became bitter and angry at God for the things that had happened. When I heard him, he had humbled himself and was again loving the Lord and excited about the future. Praise the Lord! However, in the process, he had come to believe that it was the Lord that caused all his problems. He had resigned himself to the “sovereignty of God.”

I believe this is the worst doctrine in the church today. I know that this is a shocking statement and is near blasphemy to some people, but the way sovereignty” is taught today is a real faith killer. The belief that God controls everything that happens to us is one of the devil’s biggest inroads into our lives. If this belief is true, then our actions are irrelevant, and our efforts are meaningless. What will be will be.

If we believe that God wills everything, good or bad, to happen to us, it gives us some temporary relief from confusion and condemnation, but in the long-term, it slanders God, hinders our trust in God, and leads to passiveness.
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Well the day Allah speaks to me like Jesus I’ll consider it valid. Until then I see Islam as the religion of Satan.

The reason God wanted the Jews to eliminate entire blood lines, men, women and children is because people like these terrorists indoctrinate generations of youth to hate, murder and rape to the point of no return. They will murder Christians and prevail for a time. Jesus is Lord and he will burn the enemy.
 
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Based on current trajectories... Islam will BY FAR replace Christianity in 100+ years from now

Projected Change in Global Population

Look at how steep Islam's trajectory is compared to Christianity

Especially with Islamic theocracies set up... Islam is the ONE religion with the most secure future
When the Church and State are merged, it guarantees that religion's future
 

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If God is in control, does this mean that God wanted the Islamic theocracy of Afghanistan to be set up?

Islam has managed to set up a BRAND NEW theocracy, while Christianity has a total of 0 theocracies (except Vatican City)

So if God is in control, can we then deduce that the Islam God is infact the "correct version" based on the fact that God's SOVEREIGNTY is active in Islamic theocracies

Islam is ALSO projected to overtake and replace Christianity as the world's main religion by year 2070 - https://www.usatoday.com/amp/70769318

Based on these current trajectories, in 1000 years islam will BY FAR be the world's largest religion, and Christianity will be like the new Judaism (replaced)

Could these real world events be confirmation of Prophet Muhammad's (and Islam's) legitimacy? (Since God is in control)
Messiah will return and set up a 1,000-year reign. Muhammad was a man. God is sovereign.
His dominion is an eternal dominion; His kingdom endures from generation to generation. - Daniel 7
 

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If God is in control, does this mean that God wanted the Islamic theocracy of Afghanistan to be set up?

Islam has managed to set up a BRAND NEW theocracy, while Christianity has a total of 0 theocracies (except Vatican City)

So if God is in control, can we then deduce that the Islam God is infact the "correct version" based on the fact that God's SOVEREIGNTY is active in Islamic theocracies

Islam is ALSO projected to overtake and replace Christianity as the world's main religion by year 2070 - https://www.usatoday.com/amp/70769318

Based on these current trajectories, in 1000 years islam will BY FAR be the world's largest religion, and Christianity will be like the new Judaism (replaced)

Could these real world events be confirmation of Prophet Muhammad's (and Islam's) legitimacy? (Since God is in control)
There is no question that God is in control, and controls, sustains, and uphold everything.

There is no question also that God created and do all that He do with purpose. And that all things that happen, happens for a reason and happens according to the counsel of His will, to the accomplishment of His purpose/s.

Yes God is revealed to man, and could be known and was known in His creation, because what may be known of God is manifest in them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead. In that sense, you can think those which you said in your post.

However, God also revealed Himself at various times and in various ways in time past as He had spoken to the fathers of the Israelites by the prophets. And God has in these last days spoken by His Son, Jesus Christ, who is the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person.

Having said that, there is now a better revelation of who God is and what His will is, and that is, in the person of the Son, Jesus Christ. So, it is the wiser thing to do, that we ought to go to the words of God in scriptures that gives a better and clear revelation of the one true God and His will, and whom He has sent, that is, Jesus Christ.

Ancient sacred scriptures written by the ancient prophets of God before the time of Muhammad, the so called prophet of Islam, did not speak nor prophesy about a prophet of God in the like of Muhammad, nor did the NT scriptures speak or prophesied about him, as a coming prophet sent by God, after Jesus Christ, for some purpose for which was not purposed in Jesus Christ.

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