God didn't always exist but he changed

[PanInVietnam]

i am not sure if you're right on this... none nevertheless i will continue to read the next book during the working days.

is the messiah god also? since you said 'alone' so i presume the messiah isnt god then? english word is confusing

 

[Matthias]

i am not sure if you're right on this...

You shouldn’t believe I’m right (or wrong) on this simply because I say it is right.

none nevertheless i will continue to read the next book during the working days.

That’s the right thing to do.

is the messiah god also? since you said 'alone' so i presume the messiah isnt god then? english word is confusing

There is no “also God”. Yahweh alone is the one God of Israel. Jesus of Nazareth is a human person; Yahweh is his God.

Psalm 110:1 is the most frequently quoted or alluded to Old Testament text in the New Testament.

”A declaration of Yahweh to my lord, …”

(Lexham English Bible)

Yahweh (the one God of Israel) is speaking prophetically to an unnamed human person (the promised Messiah). The unnamed human person is identified by name (Jesus) in the New Testament.

 

[PanInVietnam]

unnamed human person

since you quoted "unnamed", he/she can be anybody, isnt it? :) briefly googled psalm 110 and after reading few explanation, i would take the jewish explanation due to the fact is straight forward and no complex terminology.

 

[Debp]

is the messiah god also?

Yes, Jesus Christ, the Messiah, is divine.... God's Son...not conceived in the way of human beings. Jesus Christ was conceived miraculously in Mary's womb.

Jesus Christ had a human nature and He had the Divine nature.... it's called the Hypostatic Union.

Jesus Christ had a human nature so He could identify with us and also become the sacrifice for our sins.

@PanInVietnam please remember there are some non-Christians on this forum. You will get wrong information from them about Christianity.

 

[Debp]

No-one-No-thing, that's why He's God.

Yes, God has always existed. He is beyond our understanding. God is infinite...we are finite. @PanInVietnam

wait a moment, i dont think i read about God has any family members in the book of genesis. if i missed it, please show me at which chapter? i think you said god is unique (alone?) in the other thread? are we talking about the same god (the 2 vietnamese version of Mr. J or israel god?)

edit: is 11pm in VN now and will continue tomorrow. Thanks for sharing your knowledge

@PanInVietnam , the book of Genesis is in the Old Testament.

The Old Testament predicted or prophesied about the coming of the Messiah. (Jesus Christ). Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament prophecies.

The New Testament was written about the ministry and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Both Testaments are divinely inspired.

Most people wanting to find out about Christianity start to read the Gospels (meaning Good News). Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are the Gospel books...they tell the words and deeds of Jesus Christ.

The other books (actually letters) in the New Testament were written to help us grow in our faith.

 

[Matthias]

since you quoted "unnamed", he/she can be anybody, isnt it?

Yahweh, the God of Israel, was speaking prophetically to a specific male Jewish person. The person he was speaking to is the Messiah.

:) briefly googled psalm 110 and after reading few explanation, i would take the jewish explanation due to the fact is straight forward and no complex terminology.

Which Jewish explanation? There are two: the Jewish explanation of those who reject Jesus is the Messiah; the Jewish explanation of those who accept Jesus as the Messiah.

From your reading of Psalm 110:1 you should have seen that, even without having any preconceived idea about or knowledge of who the unnamed person is, Yahweh was not speaking to Yahweh in the prophecy.

 

[PanInVietnam]

Yahweh, the God of Israel, was speaking prophetically to a specific male Jewish person. The person he was speaking to is the Messiah.



Which Jewish explanation? There are two: the Jewish explanation of those who reject Jesus is the Messiah; the Jewish explanation of those who accept Jesus as the Messiah.

From your reading of Psalm 110:1 you should have seen that, even without having any preconceived idea about or knowledge of who the unnamed person is, Yahweh was not speaking to Yahweh in the prophecy.

the version of temple worker/singer/priest or whoever working there referring to the king david? the rest of the explanation requires some degree of further knowledge which is out of my capacity

 

[Matthias]

the version of temple worker/singer/priest or whoever working there referring to the king david?

The prophecy was written by king David. The prophecy isn’t about him; it’s about someone who is greater than him. You’re on the right track though with your thinking: Yahweh is speaking to someone who isn’t Yahweh.

the rest of the explanation requires some degree of further knowledge which is out of my capacity

It’s currently outside of your capacity. You’ll gain further knowledge and understanding as you continue to read and study.

The only reason I mentioned Psalm 110:1 to you at this time is because it is the easiest Old Testament passage verse bearing on the question you asked me in post #41. When you come to the New Testament in your reading, you should keep what you learned from Psalm 110:1 in mind. It is a key passage.

 

[MA2444]

Time is a measure of change. Prior to God's creating the universe there was no "time" at all. Think of it this way: if all is static -- if there is no change (because no matter yet exists that could change) -- then sentient beings in that milieu would have no concept of time.

It seems to me that there has to be time where God is. Otherwise the scriptures wouldnt have God speaking about yesterdays, todays or tomorrows. So there is time there, but it isnt caibrated like earths time is. It prolly goes slower?

Hmm, I wonder if that means that it will take us even longer to learn new things once we're in heaven? We talk about how men are slow learners here on earth...It may take eons in heaven?

 

[JBO]

God has his own time. Regardless, god was creating at one point in our time, then at a later point he stopped. Isn't that a change? If he didn't change, then how did he stop creating? He must've changed, and as such the bible is debunked.

God didn't change; He just changed what He was doing.

 

[RedFan]

It seems to me that there has to be time where God is. Otherwise the scriptures wouldnt have God speaking about yesterdays, todays or tomorrows. So there is time there . . .

Since the Scriptures are speaking for our benefit, obviously they are speaking post-creation of the universe, when time came into existence. So on that basis I agree with you. But my point still stands: Time is a measure of change, so prior to God's creating the universe there was no "time" at all.