God choose Trump to Save the USA from Destruction.

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Taken

Well-Known Member
Feb 6, 2018
27,359
14,803
113
United States
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
...comments made after he (Trump) "found religion" and became President.
..."to hold a vile (implying a reference to Trump) person in Contempt."

Trump has honestly Answered Personal Questions from The Media, that had nothing whatsoever to do with the Legal Requirements of A Potential Or Sitting President of the United States.

Trump has exercised his Right to Freely Speak TO and ABOUT other Citizens, in Response to Other Citizens exercising their Right to Freely Speak TO or ABOUT Trump.

Perhaps you do NOT Notice, or Think yourself NOT subject to criticism...
But you Freely Speak your Truth and Freely Criticize others...

You appear to Imply, Trump "found Religion" about the same time he was Elected President.

Trump himself accredited his Mother teaching him About God and Jesus and Religion Beginning WHEN he was a small child growing up.
Trump himself has revealed WHO he particularly is satisfied with his selection of a Spiritual Advisor.

You implied Trump was a VILE person. But you never say HOW, you conclude that.

VILE means:
"Extremely" unpleasant
"OR"
Morally Bad /WICKED.

So which meaning are you Implying?
And in "what" Context?
HAS Trump been "Extremely" unpleasant TO You?
If so How?
HAS Trump been Morally Bad, Wicked TO You?
If so How?

Glory to God,
Taken
 
  • Like
Reactions: Heart2Soul

Yehren

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2019
2,912
1,461
113
77
USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
It's very evident you don't like Trump but can you at least hold a mature conversation over your dislike?

Someone else brought it up. Initially, I laughed at anyone confusing Trump with an angel of light. But then a short search later, I found people had done exactly that. This isn't the only example, BTW, and notice that Trump himself has declared that he is "the chosen one."

Little bit creepy, no? Actually, really, really creepy.

I do not consider Trump a vile person.

A guy who brags about getting away with sexual assault surely would be regarded as a vile person. A guy who betrayed three wives in turn would surely be regarded as a vile person. Maybe not by republicans anymore, but by most Americans.

Time was, republicans were actually proud of being moral and honest. As many republicans are now saying, the party has lost it's way.
 
Last edited:

Yehren

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2019
2,912
1,461
113
77
USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Oh wait...it requires a Fake man made pictorial to get a Fake man-made Point across.

The disturbing thing is, a lot of people actually believed it. Some still do. Trump describes himself as "the chosen one."

Not a new revelation.

One would think the real AntiChrist would be a bit more competent than Trump is. So there is that. On the other hand, one theologian described the devil as a "brilliant knucklehead", so ...
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Giuliano

Heart2Soul

Spiritual Warrior
Staff member
May 10, 2018
10,024
14,708
113
66
Tulsa
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Trump himself has declared that he is "the chosen one."
Taken out of context as usual....he was quoting what Rick Perry said to him...and when the media was attacking him with baited questions he sarcastically said I am the chosen one....referring to Rick Perry's comment...chosen one by God.
Energy Secretary Rick Perry in a Fox News interview called Trump 'the chosen one' who was 'sent by God to do great things'
John Haltiwanger
Nov 25, 2019, 9:53 AM

5d991bcb591bb7238f21b044

President Donald Trump with Energy Secretary Rick Perry at an event about the environment in the East Room of the White House on July 8.
Associated Press/Alex Brandon
  • Energy Secretary Rick Perry in a recent interview with Fox News said President Donald Trump was the "chosen one" who was "sent by God" to lead the country.
  • Perry also said: "Barack Obama didn't get to be the president of the United States without being ordained by God. Neither did Donald Trump."
  • Trump controversially referred to himself as the "chosen one" while discussing the trade war with China in August.
 

Heart2Soul

Spiritual Warrior
Staff member
May 10, 2018
10,024
14,708
113
66
Tulsa
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Trump dings media for taking ‘I am the chosen one’ remark seriously
President Trump on Saturday dinged members of the media who he says took a comment about being “the chosen one” in tackling China a little too seriously -- claiming that everyone knew he was being sarcastic.

Trump made the initial remark on Wednesday, when he talked to reporters about the escalating trade war with China. He said that someone had to take on China, and looked up at the sky in a dramatic flourish.

DEFIANT TRUMP DIGS IN AMID BATTLES ON TRADE, GUNS, ISRAEL: 'I AM THE CHOSEN ONE'

“Somebody had to do it – I am the chosen one,” he said. “Somebody had to do it, so I’m taking on China, I’m taking on China on trade and you know what? We’re winning.”

Trump’s remarks were followed Friday by both China and the U.S. announcing fresh tariffs on each other as tensions increased between the two countries. Trump also ordered U.S. companies to look for alternatives other than China with whom to do business.
 

Taken

Well-Known Member
Feb 6, 2018
27,359
14,803
113
United States
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The disturbing thing is, a lot of people actually believed it. Some still do. Trump describes himself as "the chosen one."
Well? Is he?

Did the Election Vote Count Reveal Trump was Chosen as President of the United States.
Yes it did.

Does Scripture Reveal God gives to people what they Ask for?
Yes it does.

So ...did Trump MAKE A Truthful Statement?
Yes.

Did Trump Announce He was "the Chosen one" to Save ISRAEL? No. To Save The United States? No. To Save Mankind? No.

Trump has made no such statements to undermine The Lord God IS the Savior of mankind.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

Taken

Well-Known Member
Feb 6, 2018
27,359
14,803
113
United States
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
One would think the real AntiChrist would be a bit more competent than Trump is. So there is that. On the other hand, one theologian described the devil as a "brilliant knucklehead", so ...

"The True Anti-Christ, will BEFORE an audience of the World... an Call himself God".

HAS Trump ever had Opportunity to have the Attention of an audience of the World?
Yes, on numerous occasions (by and through modern Technology)

HAS Trump Ever Once (during his Multiple Opportunities) Said Such a Thing? No.

HAS Trump Ever Once (during his Multiple Opportunities, publically) Asked Gods Blessing ON America and Americans?
Yes, multiple Times.

Facts and Context.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

Yehren

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2019
2,912
1,461
113
77
USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
HAS Trump ever had Opportunity to have the Attention of an audience of the World?
Yes, on numerous occasions (by and through modern Technology)

HAS Trump Ever Once (during his Multiple Opportunities) Said Such a Thing? No.

He did, before the UN, declare that his administration achieved more than almost any administration in U.S. history. After the laughter, he let it go, and moved on. I would personally expect the AntiChrist to be something less of a shmendrick than Trump is.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Giuliano

Taken

Well-Known Member
Feb 6, 2018
27,359
14,803
113
United States
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
He did, before the UN, declare "that his administration achieved more than almost any administration in U.S. history".

And Why "exactly" IS that Laughable?

Do you think that IS Laughable because other people Laughed...or is that mentioning other men's Laughter... simple makes TRUMPS statement NOT True?

After the laughter, he let it go, and moved on. I would personally expect the AntiChrist to be something less of a shmendrick than Trump is.

Schmendrick (שמענדריק) is Yiddish for an ineffectual, foolish, or contemptible person.

So you are implying Trump is an ineffectual...
Person... How do?

And Implying Trump is a foolish Person...How so?

And Implying Trump is a contemptable Person...How so?

Can you answer these questions along with the Last questions I asked you about your claims Against Trump?

Glory to God,
Taken
 

Joseph77

Well-Known Member
Apr 1, 2020
5,673
1,325
113
Tulsa, OK
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
And Why "exactly" IS that Laughable?
Though the Creator LAUGHS at the plans of the wicked (futile, vain plans, with no hope of ever succeeding),

the wicked often LAUGH at the righteous and mocking God's Word they laugh, despising what is right and true, and exalting instead what is wicked and sinful.
 

Yehren

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2019
2,912
1,461
113
77
USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
And Why "exactly" IS that Laughable?

Because any person with even a slight knowledge of American history would know that was a foolish and ignorant boast.

Schmendrick
(שמענדריק) is Yiddish for an ineffectual, foolish, or contemptible person.

Yep. Trump to a "t."

So you are implying Trump is an ineffectual...
Person... How do?

His plans for his presidency.
Build a wall. Failed.
Balance the budget. Instead he created huge deficits.
Get a health care plan better and cheaper than Obamacare. Instead,he merely messed up what we have, making it worse.
"Drain the swamp" Instead he hired more criminals and other swamp creatures than any president since Nixon. You want the details?
And of course, he botched the response to the pandemic, killing tens of thousands of Americans.

Failed at everything.

And Implying Trump is a foolish Person...How so?

He took Putin's word against our own military about Russian attempts to interfere in the 2016 elections.

That idiot "hold a Bible in front of a church" photo op that blew up in his face.

Declaring the COVID-19 pandemic was "completely controlled" and would go away "like a miracle."

Suggesting that we should "clean lungs" by injecting disinfectant.

How many more would you like?

And Implying Trump is a contemptable Person...How so?

Brags about how he gets away with sexual assult. Betrayed three wives with other women. How many more would you like?

Can you answer these questions

Anyone could have answered those questions.

along with the Last questions I asked you about your claims Against Trump?

I suggested that those who think of Trump as God's anointed are really, really wrong. That's not the kind of guy God would endorse. See above. And I suggested that he seems to be too dumb to be the AntiChrist, although there are some theologians who would disagree. See above. Not the smartest guy in the world.
 
Last edited:

Taken

Well-Known Member
Feb 6, 2018
27,359
14,803
113
United States
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Though the Creator LAUGHS at the plans of the wicked (futile, vain plans, with no hope of ever succeeding),

the wicked often LAUGH at the righteous and mocking God's Word they laugh, despising what is right and true, and exalting instead what is wicked and sinful.

Thank you.
 

bukka

Well-Known Member
Jun 7, 2020
563
444
63
Western North America
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
People need to remember the false prophecy supporting Trump.

Here is the full text of that prophecy:

From Left to Right


FULL TEXT of Mark Taylor's April 28, 2011 Commander in Chief Prophecy:

[1]"The Spirit of God says I've chosen this man Donald Trump for such a time as this. [2]For as Benjamin Netanyahu is to Israel, so shall this man be to the United States of America, for I will use this man to bring honor, respect and restoration to America.

[3]America will be respected once again as the most powerful, prosperous nation on Earth other than Israel. [4]The dollar will be the strongest it has ever been in the history of the United States and will once again be the currency by which all others are judged.

[5]The Spirit of God says the enemy will quake and shake and fear this man I have anointed. [6]They will even quake and shake when he announces he is running for President. [7]It will be like the shot heard across the world.

[8]Then you will say what shall we do now? [9]This man knows all our tricks and schemes. [10]We've been robbing America for decades. [11]What should we do to stop this? [12]The Spirit says, ha, no one shall stop this that I have started, for the enemy has stolen from America for decades and it stops now. [13]For I will use this man to reap the harvest that the United States has sown for and plunder from the enemy what he has stolen and return it back seven-fold to the United States.

[14]The enemy will say, 'Israel, Israel, what about Israel?' [15]Israel will be protected by America once again. [16]The Spirit says yes, America will once again stand hand in hand with Israel and the two shall be as one, for the ties between Israel and America will be stronger than ever and Israel will flourish like never before.

[17]The Spirit of God says I will protect America and Israel, for this next President will be a man of his word. [18]When he speaks the world will listen and know that there is something greater in him than all the others before him. [19]This man's word is his bond and the world and America will know this, and the enemy will fear this, for this man will be fearless.

[20]The Spirit says when the financial harvest begins so shall the parallel in the spiritual for America.

[21]The Spirit of God says in this next election they will spend billions to keep this president out. [22]It will be like money down the toilet. [23]Let them waste their money, for where it comes from is being used by evil forces at work, but they will not succeed. [24]This next election will be a clean sweep for the man that I have chosen. [24]They will say things about this man, the enemy, but it will not affect him and they will say it rolls off of him like a duck. [25]For even as the feathers of a duck protect it, so shall my feathers protect this next president.

[26]Even mainstream news media will be captivated by this man and the abilities that I gift to him and they will even begin to agree with him, says the Spirit." – Mark Taylor


I've numbered the sentences (or verses) of this prophecy and have also broke it into paragraphs. As one can see from the text, there is manifest false prophecy contained in it.

Trump has never disowned the prophecies given by various people concerning him. When Trump was in the early months of his Presidency, Trump, himself, should have came out and condemned these prophecies, saying that he was, in no way, "anointed" by God. He failed to do so. This meant, in effect, that Trump consented to them, hoping that gullible people would fall for them and support him as a leader. Technically, this made him an anti-christ, one of the many fetid anti-christs that have come down through the centuries who've claimed divine sanctions to rule and to compel obedience. One thing that we do know about Trump is his concerns for wealth, power and obedience.

We have a right to be suspicious of Trump and to question him when he he does various moral actions that are repugnant to Christian belief. Let us all agree that Trump is not not of God. As an anti-christ, Trump is, by definition, anti-God and anti-family.

This also means, on this forum, Christianity Board, Christians have a perfect right to be suspicious of false christs, people who claim to be "anointed" or accept from others that certain people are "anointed" by God. Trump is not "anointed" by God.

For myself, I only accept Jesus as the Christ. It is only he who is Lord and Savior.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Giuliano

amadeus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2008
23,234
33,177
113
81
Oklahoma
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
You know, I did that. I asked Jesus to send angels to talk to Trump. I asked that they say, "Do the right thing." That was my prayer. I didn't ask them to try to sway him to any ideas I had about what was right.

The results I got? He got crazier. I am not sure why, but my theory is he hardened his heart when asked by the angels to do the right thing, and thus he got crazier the way Pharaoh did. That's my theory.
Our prayers cannot save people nor cause them to change their decisions. Rather I believe that because of the fervent prayer of a righteous man God will open a person's eyes to see his own errors and perhaps a better way. Having seen, he still must make the decision to change himself. We cannot make him change and God will not.

Some people know they are wrong, but refuse to change for different reasons. Have you never met a person who admitted his way might be or was in error, but nevertheless refused to change? I most certainly have.

One example that immediately came to my mind was that of a 'Christian' snake handler I met here in Oklahoma many years ago. We [myself and a friend] met him at the intersection of two dirt roads several miles from any town and stopped to ask him for directions to a church meeting we wanted to attend. He was unable to help us in that, but we talked with him for a long time about God and the scriptures. He was a nice fellow quite a bit older than us. He told us about his snake handling services he had attended for most of his life. We went through a lot of scripture with him about such things. He knew the scriptures and had heard it all before. He did not get angry nor did he disagree with our idea that what he was doing might be tempting God. On the contrary, he agreed, but he said he had been serving God that way all of his life and was not about to change. That was where the conversation ended amicably... If he still lives I suppose he is still picking up rattle snakes and such when he goes to church...
 

Giuliano

Well-Known Member
Aug 4, 2019
5,978
3,677
113
Carlisle
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
No I don't....I said your comment was.
If I make crude comments, then I am being crude. I don't split hairs the way some do. If I tell a lie, I am a liar.

You also implied I was not sincere in my prayer. "If you were sincere in your prayer then why make such a crude remark at the end of that post." What can I say? I can say what James said, that a fountain does not give out both sweet and bitter waters. Reread these words of yours about me, "Your prayer probably didn't get answered because your heart is hardened towards him and you were praying out of spite not concern."
That is still not proper....An angel's job is to do the Will of the Father and to carry out His commands.
I suspect now that you are typing away without composure. You appear to be responding too quickly, without considering what you write. Or perhaps you are not really reading what I write? Let me repeat it, "I asked Jesus to send angels to talk to Trump."

Furthermore, for anyone to do the right thing then their heart must be right. That would be the Holy Spirit's job.
Really? So it would be a sin for me to ask someone in person to do the right thing? You make me laugh. It is never wrong to to people's good side by asking them to do the right thing.
Well there is judging someone's actions to condemn them and there is judging someone's intentions by their fruit.....You will know them by their fruit.... and out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks....so you don't like Trump....fine....
Trump is the one with a mouth problem. He lies so frequently, I find it hard to believe anything he says. What does that say about his heart?

If someone dares to disagree with him, he attacks them and insults them the way he recently did with Governor Ridge. He even attacked Ted Cruz' wife and father and John McCain. Poison comes out of his mouth. He has proved his tongue is not tamed; and that means his religion is in vain.
but if you really are going to pray for him pray for the Holy Spirit to give him Godly Wisdom to rule this nation.
Now you are bad mouthing Trump by saying he lacks Godly Wisdom to rule the country. Where did you did get that idea? From the ministers who laid hands on him and prayed for God to give him wisdom? I saw that and laughed. They were basically admitting he was foolish and lacking in godly wisdom.

I tend to think people have to want God's Wisdom and ask for it as Solomon did. Now if Trump heard the angel saying, "Do the right thing," and gave it some thought, maybe he'd stop relying on his vicious snakelike wisdom which strikes out with poison and ask God for real Wisdom. His style of wisdom is leading him to defeat as Pharaoh's style of wisdom led him into the sea.

I do not consider Trump a vile person.....He doesn't communicate well at all....and I don't care for his tweets but I do appreciate many of the things he is doing.
I have never seen a more vile self-centered person as President. He seems to think everything is about him.

He seems to communicate well enough with his base who lap up every word and applaud him wildly. Ever wonder why some people like bullies? It's a major spiritual problem as well as an earthly one.
 

Joseph77

Well-Known Member
Apr 1, 2020
5,673
1,325
113
Tulsa, OK
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Our prayers cannot save people nor cause them to change their decisions.
Because you already know, in several languages, and yet it is no trouble to repeat this:

James 5:15 And the prayer offered in faith will restore ...
biblehub.com/james/5-15.htm

The Prayer of Faith … 14 Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord.

And the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick.

The Lord will raise him up.

If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.

Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed.
 
  • Like
Reactions: amadeus

amadeus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2008
23,234
33,177
113
81
Oklahoma
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Because you already know, in several languages, and yet it is no trouble to repeat this:

James 5:15 And the prayer offered in faith will restore ...
biblehub.com/james/5-15.htm

The Prayer of Faith … 14 Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord.

And the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick.

The Lord will raise him up.

If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.

Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed.
Good words, but did I contradict them somewhere? I don't believe so...