God changed Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to First Day of the Week

[MatthewG]

You can disagree, and that is all you can do. To fight, bicker, and try to prove someone over something that they in their own sense agree with is impossible. You can still have love for them.

 

[BarneyFife]

That we as Christians understand our salvation, so that our faith may be strengthened and we are fully equipped.
To that end it is germaine to explain how it comes to be that we aren't under the law.

But we don't even agree on what "under the law" means.

 

[BarneyFife]

You can disagree, and that is all you can do. To fight, bicker, and try to prove someone over something that they in their own sense agree with is impossible. You can still have love for them.

What do you want? I love you. If you don't want to participate, why linger about?

 

[MatthewG]

It was to the general populous. Not just you yourself. Take care.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Sorry I do not accept the word of men/students even if their works seem holy, unless they are expounding on the word of God and as to my discretion. Let God be true and all men liars.

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[GerhardEbersoehn]

Do you get my drift?

To God Be The Glory

If your <drift> were <<To God Be The Glory>>, I certainly do NOT <get it>.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

clearly we as Christians are not under the law.
the law was a marriage contract with the nation Israel. we are not Israel.
so clearly all of you who say we are

So clearly you as Christians who are not Israel and are not under the Law that was a marriage contract of God with the nation Israel, clearly all of you are married to an adulterer, God who divorced his wife, Israel, and married you who were unbelievers.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

trying to put Christians under the law? including the decalogue? that is blaspheming the gospel,

Now who is <<trying to put Christians under the law?>> Jeremiah I think it was who said the fathers are not responsible for the children's sins just like the children are not responsible for the fathers' sins, and Paul it is, I think, who says everyone will have to bear his own baggage of sin.
Therefore are you saying the Law puts <<Christians under the Law>>? Yes? So what you say is it is the Law <<that is blaspheming the gospel>> yes, you say it, man, you blasphemer!

 

[BarneyFife]

I hold the greatest event in human history was God raising Jesus from the dead into a glorified body. Everyone dies. The resurrection is our proof of what Jesus died for.

Thank you for your opinion. :)

 

[BarneyFife]

It was to the general populous. Not just you yourself.

I gathered that since you didn't quote anyone.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Try reading Jeremiah 31, Hebrews 8 and 9, which refutes your claim.

Hebrews says this new covenant with the houses of Israel and Judah, is A BETTER COVENANT FOUNDED ON BETTER PROMISES- it’s not an old covenant recycled.

Scripture says : 1. the first covenant with Israel given on mount Sinai, was faulty, and 2. The new one is better, with better promises.

You can’t change facts, sorry.

<<<Hebrews says this new covenant with the houses of Israel and Judah, is A BETTER COVENANT FOUNDED ON BETTER PROMISES- it’s not an old covenant recycled.>>>

Now can you believe it!

<<Scripture says : 1. the first covenant with Israel given on mount Sinai, was faulty, and 2. The new one is better, with better promises.>>
Now how did you get that? Your very sentence before this, YOU, said, <<<Hebrews says this new covenant with the houses of Israel and Judah, is A BETTER COVENANT FOUNDED ON BETTER PROMISES- it’s not an old covenant recycled.>>>

You can’t change facts, sorry.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Christians are not ungodly, not manslayers, not (unrepentant) sinners - are none of the things Paul says THE LAW applies to - nor apparently have you understood that Christians have died to the law, by being married to Jesus, and because we have Gods spirit indwelling us. <—- Paul said all these things.

Paul said none of these things. Paul says all including all <Christians>, are ungodly, manslayers, unrepentant, sinners, none of who are not sinners -- none who are righteous pertaining the things THE LAW applies to.

You're a scoundrel and very very insulting to presume Christians are stupid enough to fall for your humbug gospel.

 

[post]

I'm not a linguist. Nevertheless, I disagree.

Did you really just say that?

You admit you don't have any idea what your talking about, but you're sticking with your completely baseless opinion?

You don't have to be a linguist to know the difference between a declarative and an imperative statement. The words are basic 6th grade English, and the concept is something a 4 year old should grasp.

If I say 'don't do that' I have given you a command.

 

[post]

So clearly you as Christians who are not Israel and are not under the Law that was a marriage contract of God with the nation Israel, clearly all of you are married to an adulterer, God who divorced his wife, Israel, and married you who were unbelievers.

Why are you accusing God of adultery?

 

[post]

Now who is <<trying to put Christians under the law?>> Jeremiah I think it was who said the fathers are not responsible for the children's sins just like the children are not responsible for the fathers' sins, and Paul it is, I think, who says everyone will have to bear his own baggage of sin.
Therefore are you saying the Law puts <<Christians under the Law>>? Yes? So what you say is it is the Law <<that is blaspheming the gospel>> yes, you say it, man, you blasphemer!

What in the world are you even talking about?
I'm sorry but you seem really confused and you don't make any sense.

Try calming down and restating whatever it is you're saying more clearly?

 

[Wrangler]

All that is remembered is the Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath.

I have no idea where you come up with the idea of all that is remembered is this one thing? God's Anointed is Lord of the Sabbath, which is something that exists. He is not Lord over a non-existent thing.

Not sure Sabbath day is so important that it should be held over seeking and searching and seeking for God.

Friend, what you are juxtaposing is aligned; a profoundly powerful means to seek and search for God is through resting and setting time aside for worship, rejuvenation, prayer and meditation, aka sabbath.

To continuously talk about one subject seems valueless to me personally.

Again, I have no idea where you are coming up with this. I talk about a great variety of things even though I have my passions. If you have had your fill of the topic, feel free to move on to more exciting threads.

 

[MatthewG]

The spirit of Christ with-in me reminds me of the Lord being the Lord of the Sabbath.

You can rest in the Lord through like you suggest absolutely.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Some read the Bible and conclude Mary missed the greatest event in human history by moments. The above shows she missed it by ~ 12 hours. The Jewish day begins at sunset, as dusk ends.

Deviate quarter of an inch from Armstrong and you're a heretic - just like the SDA, deviate i mm from Mrs White and you're Antichrist.
Wrong: <<day begins at sunset, as dusk ends.>> Day begins afternoon ending dusk starting SUNSET.

Have you read Armstrong's Paper that made him a prophet among WCs? Most likely not; he published it early 20th century. However. Armstrong taught for Gospel Jesus rose just after sunset, on the First Day of the week. In the same Paper Armstrong argued himself into a corner, and suddenly Jesus rose sunset 6PM; then a few minutes before sunset, then about a quarter of an hour before sunset. But never on Sabbath.

Armstrong in the end stuck to Jesus' Resurrection 'just after sunset on the First Day'.

NO WC ever crossed swords with Armstrong on this issue. I was the first and only person who STARTED and DEVELOPED argument maintaining that Jesus Resurrected "LATE IN THE MID-AFTERNOON OF THE SABBATH", and as far as I know I am the only person to this day who has done proper research on the subject (against others and incidentally against COGWCs as well).

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

God's Anointed is Lord of the Sabbath, which is something that exists. He is not Lord over a non-existent thing.

AMEN

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

The spirit of Christ with-in me reminds me of the Lord being the Lord of the Sabbath.

Amen
The Spirit of Christ through the Letter of God's Word witnesses "not of Himself", not of me, not of the Sabbath; but "He shall witness of ME", being "Lord of the Sabbath Day".