God changed Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to First Day of the Week
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Drooling syrup telling your pals all Sabbath believing ‘Christians’ are hypocrites
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It clearly states to let no man, such as you, judge me concerning a sabbath, which is a shadow of things to come - the millennium, per Barnabas - but the SUBSTANCE that casts the shadow, is JESUS.
Keeping sabbaths is keeping shadows. The sabbath day of rest was a foreshadow of Jesus becoming our rest 24/7, not just on an ended ceremonial day of rest. Matthew 11:28-29.
Col 2:16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.
Col 2:17 These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.
Baruch HaShem HaMaschiach Yehoshua
Stumpmaster
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God never commanded anyone to keep a sabbath command, until He gave it to Israel, as a memorial of remembrance of being set free from Egyptian slavery, after their Exodus, and as a covenant sign between the nation of Israel, and Himself:
Deu 5:15 And thou shalt remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and Jehovah thy God brought thee out thence by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm: therefore Jehovah thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
REMEMBER that YOU (Israel) were slaves in Egypt and I took you out with a mighty hand. THEREFORE (because of your deliverance from Egyptian slavery) I gave YOU (the nation of Israel) this sabbath day command.
That wouldn’t be much of a memorial of remembrance and a covenant sign - as God calls the sabbath day command in Exodus 31:13 - to give them a command that was kept since the 6th day of creation, now would it?
(Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily ye shall keep my sabbaths: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am Jehovah who sanctifieth you.)
In fact Moses refutes the claim that any of their ancestors had the sabbath day command, when he was about to give Israel the covenant law God gave to them, which includes the Decalogue:
Note the chapter heading in the Bible for this passage:
The Ten Commandments.
Deu 5:1 And Moses called unto all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and the ordinances which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and observe to do them.
Deu 5:2 Jehovah our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
Deu 5:3 Jehovah made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us,even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
No one had the covenant law and ten commands until Moses received them, after the Exodus from Egypt.
In fact Paul wrote that the law was given 430 years after Abraham- and not at the seventh day of creation - but 4.3 centuries after Abraham.
Here’s the fact that the sabbath day command is a covenant sign only between God and the nation of Israel:
Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily ye shall keep my sabbaths: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am Jehovah who sanctifieth you.
Baruch HaShem Adonai
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Ziggy
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God created a day, individual seperate unlike the other, for himself to rest in from all his works.
That day is called the 7th day. This is the first day before work begins again on the eight 8th day.
The 8th day is a cutting off of the old and a revealing of the new.
Work begins again.
God created and made holy and sanctified (set apart) this 7th day for himself from the beginning of all creation.
Perhaps the 7th day even existed before the 1st day that God created the heavens and the earth for us.
What was there before God said, Let there be light, and God saw the light that it was good?
What came before it?
Was God resting possibly from another older history that had come before?
We don't know, but the bible mentions not knowing once things are past.
Behold all things become new.
I believe that during the creation week, this week where God made the sun and the moon and the stars and the oceans, and the trees and the sea creatures and the land animals.... all these God made for man to have dominion over.
The seventh day also was made for man to rest in and to sanctify (set apart) to be with him resting, feasting, being joyful, singing praises,
Being THANKFUL. For everything God had created for man, including rest.
I see the sabbath as a period of death to the world. Leaving your worldly cares behind.
And yet also, a new beginning into a new life.
I honestly don't know if I believe in reincarnation or not.
But I do believe that when we enter rest/death/eternal sabbath, that we are renewed.
Our spirit doesn't end there, because the spirit in us is of God and cannot die.
But God can cut you off. He can keep you from entering that sabbath or that death.
And men will seek to die and not find it.
It is so much more important than "just a day" to worship.
Everything God has given us is so much more than what we think it is.
We just take everything for granted.
I am not arguing with you anymore @GerhardEbersoehn .
I would love to talk about the sabbath or any other topic you would like to share.
I would prefer a reasonable conversation, than slinging mud and accusations at people.
I understand that everyone is zealous for their own understandings. I can be too.
But we also have to be willing to listen and reason among ourselves.
This is what helps us grow and not tear us apart.
This is "work"...
and we have less than 6 days to figure it out..
less than 5
less than 4
less than 3
less than 2
TODAY...
We can work while it is still light,
tomoroow no man can work "plant, grow, build, together"
Because of the darkness.
USE your time wisely.
HUGS
Ziggy
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On the 6th day God made beast and man.
doctrines of men and doctrines of God.
Men are as beasts until they become men.
Brutish like beasts...
metaphorically speaking..
Moses gave you not that manna... I am the manna..
what manna did Moses give them?
I keep hearing Jethro, Moses father-in-law the Medianite giving Moses consultation on how the "church" in the wilderness should be handled.
Was Jethro inspired by God to instruct Moses?
Just thoughts..
Hugs
doctrines of men and doctrines of God.
Men are as beasts until they become men.
Brutish like beasts...
metaphorically speaking..
Moses gave you not that manna... I am the manna..
what manna did Moses give them?
I keep hearing Jethro, Moses father-in-law the Medianite giving Moses consultation on how the "church" in the wilderness should be handled.
Was Jethro inspired by God to instruct Moses?
Just thoughts..
Hugs
You're right, God never commanded anyone to keep the Sabbath, not until He had shown MERCY to Adam and Eve, and again not until God had brought his People out of bondage on occasion of the Passover of Yahweh.
You're right, of course, according to God's Eternal Purpose in Jesus Christ.
And don't you forget it.
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Two scriptures cut to the chase about not having to keep the 7th day sabbath:
Gal 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
Gal 4:10 Ye observe DAYS and months, and times, and years.
Gal 4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
“Sabbaths, new moons, and set feasts” answer to “days, months, times.” 1Chronicles 23:31 ;
1 Chronicles 23:31 (KJV)
The word sabbaths is word H7676 in Hebrew:
H7676 (Strong)
שַׁבָּת
shabbâth
shab-bawth'
Intensive from H7673; intermission, that is, (specifically) the Sabbath: - (+ every) sabbath.
Total KJV occurrences: 111
Thus Galatians 4:9-11 is talking about sabbaths that includes the weekly sabbaths.
Next:
Col 2:16 Let NO MAN therefore JUDGE YOU in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH days:
Col 2:17 Which are a SHADOW of things to come; but the BODY isof Christ.
The word sabbath above, is H4521 in Strongs:
G4521 (Strong)
σάββατον
sabbaton
sab'-bat-on
Of Hebrew origin [H7676]; the Sabbath(that is, Shabbath), or day of WEEKLY reposefrom secular avocations (also the observance or institution itself); by extension a se'nnight, that is, the interval between two Sabbaths; likewise the plural in all the above applications: - SABBATH (DAY), week.
Total KJV occurrences: 68
Therefore the sabbath in Colossians 2:16-17 definitely is the weekly, 7th day sabbath.
Colossians 2:16-17 states to let no one judge you for not keeping the sabbath day, because it’s a shadow of Jesus, (who’s the real rest for us Matthew 11:28-29 - every day we rest in Him, and no longer on a ceremonial day).
I’d rather have the real sabbath (sabbath just means REST), and not the shadow.
Since I am not the nation of Israel, and since I was never a slave in Egypt , nor delivered from slavery in Egypt, then that covenant sign given only to the nation of Israel wouldn’t apply to me - even if the old covenant, which includes the Decalogue, was still I effect - which it is not.
BTW the old covenant ended when God divorced Israel for adultery in Jeremiah 3:8
The Galatians - heathen and pagan, "formerly superstiously by observation worshipped days"[*] the chief and queen of was the Day-of-the-lord-SUN. The Christian Church CONTINUES DOING this "WILL-WORSHIP" the same as "before" and more arrogantly then ever.
[* "formerly superstiously by observation worshipped days" πῶς ἐπιστρέφετε πάλιν ἐπὶ τὰ ἀσθενῆ καὶ πτωχὰ στοιχεῖα, οἷς πάλιν ἄνωθεν δουλεῦσαι θέλετε; 10 ἡμέρας παρατηρεῖσθε καὶ μῆνας καὶ καιροὺς καὶ ἐνιαυτούς.
Pour out your ignorance and return to eat it from the floor like a beast.
It may be fun to let my grade 1 grandchild play teacher-teacher with oupa for a minute or two.
Stumpmaster
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Some Sabbatarians are as mean as snakes:
The Lord of the Sabbath
(1 Samuel 21:1–7; Matthew 12:1–8; Luke 6:1–5)
Mark 2:23One Sabbath Jesus was passing through the grainfields, and His disciples began to pick the heads of grain as they walked along. 24So the Pharisees said to Him, “Look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?”25Jesus replied, “Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need? 26During the high priesthood of Abiathar, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread,c which was lawful only for the priests. And he gave some to his companions as well.”27Then Jesus declared, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28Therefore, the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”
The Lord of the Sabbath
(1 Samuel 21:1–7; Matthew 12:1–8; Luke 6:1–5)
Mark 2:23One Sabbath Jesus was passing through the grainfields, and His disciples began to pick the heads of grain as they walked along. 24So the Pharisees said to Him, “Look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?”25Jesus replied, “Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need? 26During the high priesthood of Abiathar, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread,c which was lawful only for the priests. And he gave some to his companions as well.”27Then Jesus declared, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28Therefore, the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”
That’s not what scholarship actually says - the entire book of Galatians was written to those wanting to remain under tha law of Moses.
Pagans didn’t keep the law of Moses, which is mentioned all through Galatians.
Try reading the entire book slowly - it was written to you.
You might especially pay attention to Galatians 4:21-31, which calls the covenant given at Sinai, BONDAGE.
Shalom Aleichem
Gal 4:21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law?
Gal 4:22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman.
Gal 4:23 But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise.
Gal 4:24 Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar.
Gal 4:25 Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children.
Gal 4:26 But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.
Gal 4:27 For it is written, “Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear; break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor! For the children of the desolate one will be more than those of the one who has a husband.”
Gal 4:28 Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise.
Gal 4:29 But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now.
Gal 4:30 But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.”
Gal 4:31 So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.
Those who most of all people trampled the Law of God and specifically the Sabbath Commandment underfoot and still does it with utter hate of the Messiah the Lord of the Sabbath Day Jesus Christ, were not Pagans but Israel : THEN AND NOW. Pagans never knew the Law of Moses the Law of God, not before Christians introduced them to it, which is PRESUPPOSED all through Galatians.
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Mistake, ALL <<Sabbatarians are as mean as snakes>>. Their meanness is only surpassed by Sunday worshipping Scripture defying and despising snakes themselves. Because a Scripture defying and despising snake is the devil himself right inside the Garden of Eden God's home He had made for man.
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