Finger pointing and condemnation

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Verily

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2024
1,638
1,029
113
Sion the heavenly city
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
You posted a lot but responded none regarding Ezekiel 14. Whether it is they shall be saved by righteousness. OR they would save themselves by their own righteousness.

Instead you go into a host of verses that approves (you say)of finger pointing. How do we know if you repent of the evil you do and turn from it …and I will repent of the evil I thought to do unto you…how do we know it is not
Isaiah 58:9-11 Then you shall call, and the LORD will answer; you shall cry, and he will say, 'Here I am.' If you take away the yoke from your midst, the pointing of the finger, and speaking wickedness, [10] if you pour yourself out for the hungry and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then shall your light rise in the darkness and your gloom be as the noonday. [11] And the LORD will guide you continually and satisfy your desire in scorched places and make your bones strong; and you shall be like a watered garden, like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail.




you’ve left off Jonah 4:9-11 But God said to Jonah, "Do you do well to be angry for the plant?" And he said, "Yes, I do well to be angry, angry enough to die." [10] And the LORD said, "You pity the plant, for which you did not labor, nor did you make it grow, which came into being in a night and perished in a night. [11] And should not I pity Nineveh, that great city, in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know their right hand from their left, and also much cattle?"

Even those laughing and mocking and tempting Jesus Christ to save himself. His answer “Forgive them Father they know not what they do.” Who? Those doing things to him that honestly, I would have been shouting all the ways they are wrong and try my best to justify myself! I do this in arguments. I try and try to justify myself instead of like the Son of God submitted himself. That is foreign to this worlds ways.

Way different from Jonah which you are using as the model…what was God teaching Jonah that Christ revealed?

again…finger pointing is one spoke of as “a yoke” among you that if you take it away, then I will hear you.. Regarding “yoke” He spoke to the Pharisees and religious leaders that they put heavy burdens on others yet, would not with a finger help any with those burdens. Also they tell others what not to do, while they themselves do what they tell others not to do.

Which verses did I post that pointed a finger? You have failed to show what the problem was with the verses posted as if one set of verses voided the other.

As far as the nations themselves, they not knowing their right or left, the times of this ignorance God winked at as Paul said, but now commandeth all men every where to repent. from here forward they had received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name

Acts 14:16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
 
  • Like
Reactions: amigo de christo

Verily

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2024
1,638
1,029
113
Sion the heavenly city
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Way different from Jonah which you are using as the model…what was God teaching Jonah that Christ revealed?
Christ tells us,

Mat 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

Which agrees with

Jerm 18:7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;

Jerm 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

Again,

Jonah 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.

Even as it says, God spoke by the prophets

Jonah 3:5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.

And even as it says here

Jona 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Which again, agrees with the above

Jerm 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

For the LORD has said,

I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live

And Jeus said,

Luke 11:30 For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.

Jesus just got done telling them

This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

The Son of man to the house of Israel to give warning similarly shown here

Ezek 33:7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

As the apostles also confirm saying,

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
 
  • Love
Reactions: amigo de christo

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
29,847
50,601
113
53
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Hey, VIJ.

Yokes were something put on bulls, and cows and they would walk together. A Bull and a donkey if yoked together wont be successful in plowing the land if it was a need to be done, but overall it reminds me of the yoke that we have with Jesus himself.





Yahavah desires for us to remove this type of yoke from us, which is the finger-pointing, and speaking wickedly of a neighbor. Ultimately I believe being yoked with the Yeshua. Though with us having to let go of things and put that yoke around our neck, Jesus meets us where we are at and helps us to carry forward which he helps us unload our burdens to Yahavah, and makes life just a little bit easier.

There are so many things that we hold dear to ourselves that I believe we have to let go of, and ultimately put Yahavah/LORD above all of our other priorities and let him by the holy spirit/spirit of Christ work through us. And with Yeshua and all the things he has done, I believe he can help us it takes faith, it takes a little action too, when dealing with our own selves. It's all personal when it comes down to it when we look at the mirror, but deeper than that reflection is the heart beating within is us and what does it desire? Naturally it's to get own way.
interfaith is the yoke of satan . you would have told JESUS himself , you judgmental man , i put you on ignore .
Yes mathew the rebuking is getting sharper now , but only IN HOPES for your own good .
You put a lot of his words on ignore in that there bible . so like i said you would put JESUS on ignore if he came on line .
WHICH HE WONT DO . just saying .
 

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
29,847
50,601
113
53
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Christ tells us,

Mat 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

Which agrees with

Jerm 18:7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;

Jerm 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

Again,

Jonah 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.

Even as it says, God spoke by the prophets

Jonah 3:5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.

And even as it says here

Jona 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Which again, agrees with the above

Jerm 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

For the LORD has said,

I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live

And Jeus said,

Luke 11:30 For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.

Jesus just got done telling them

This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

The Son of man to the house of Israel to give warning similarly shown here

Ezek 33:7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

As the apostles also confirm saying,

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
Proving without a doubt that interfaith is OF ANTI CHRIST .
YOU GO look at them popes and this pope that lead and co lead in interfaith .
JESUS WARNED , HE warned friend of how much worse it would be . men repented at the preaching of JONAS
and yet MOST all willl not repent to believe JESUS . man he said FAR WORSE
intefaith says , OH EVERY RELIGOIN is on a path to GOD , everyone , what a crock of anti christ lie . but what is a lie
and that of anti christ , A MASSIVE NUMBER of even christendom is now under and more by the hour go under its influence .
Yeah . ponder on that for a bit . JUDGE NOT , correct not DID NOT , I said DID NOT , WORK TO THE GOOD of the church
but to its destruction , as leaven bred leaven as error beget only more error .
Every man , woman and child could call me satan and anti christ , BUT I WILL WARN and keep warning ,
expose and keep exposing , and frankly LET them do to me as they will , THEY WONT SHUT MY MOUTH .
THE LOVE OF THE PEOPLES no matter how much it has caused me to be hated . TIME TO PUT GOD FIRST , CHRIST first
cause ONLY TRUTH can set them free .
 
  • Like
Reactions: Marvelloustime

MatthewG

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2021
16,575
5,512
113
34
Fyffe
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I can't do anything good by my own power. It's only by and through the Holy Spirit/Spirit of Christ, that anything good comes from me personally. I'm thankful that Jesus and his yoke is easy, and his burden is light. If people wanna fight, bicker, and what not. I am not better than anyone on this website. Humility is so important. Hope people who are really look to follow after the Lord Yeshua, continue to do so, and may all of you be blessed, and may God give the increase.
 

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
29,847
50,601
113
53
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Which verses did I post that pointed a finger? You have failed to show what the problem was with the verses posted as if one set of verses voided the other.

As far as the nations themselves, they not knowing their right or left, the times of this ignorance God winked at as Paul said, but now commandeth all men every where to repent. from here forward they had received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name

Acts 14:16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
if you examine the accusation behind what most call finger pointing and accusing
ITS NOTHING MORE than this next scenario .
Now imagine you saw a sign that said finger pointing and condeming .
THEN you were given a special pair of glasses . SO you put on those glasses and WOW
all of a sudden you could see the real agenda behind them words .
IT WOULD READ , STOP EXPOSING OUR SIN , WE USE THE VICTIM AND ACCUSATION CARD to SILENCE YOUR VOICE .
 

Verily

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2024
1,638
1,029
113
Sion the heavenly city
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Proving without a doubt that interfaith is OF ANTI CHRIST .
YOU GO look at them popes and this pope that lead and co lead in interfaith .
JESUS WARNED , HE warned friend of how much worse it would be . men repented at the preaching of JONAS
and yet MOST all willl not repent to believe JESUS . man he said FAR WORSE
intefaith says , OH EVERY RELIGOIN is on a path to GOD , everyone , what a crock of anti christ lie . but what is a lie
and that of anti christ , A MASSIVE NUMBER of even christendom is now under and more by the hour go under its influence .
Yeah . ponder on that for a bit . JUDGE NOT , correct not DID NOT , I said DID NOT , WORK TO THE GOOD of the church
but to its destruction , as leaven bred leaven as error beget only more error .
Every man , woman and child could call me satan and anti christ , BUT I WILL WARN and keep warning ,
expose and keep exposing , and frankly LET them do to me as they will , THEY WONT SHUT MY MOUTH .
THE LOVE OF THE PEOPLES no matter how much it has caused me to be hated . TIME TO PUT GOD FIRST , CHRIST first
cause ONLY TRUTH can set them free .
I had to ask AI what is interfaith, I still do not really know what that is. It sounds like all faiths (in various gods) coming togther (or something like that) and I asked because you are the only one I have come across that speaks of this (and I am blissfully ignorant of whatever that is).

So I asked,

Interfaith Meaning​

Interfaith refers to activities or relationships involving members of different religions. It encompasses various ways of relating between different beliefs, creeds, ideologies, faiths, or religions. This can include dialogue, cooperation, and understanding among people of different faith backgrounds.

Is this correct?
 
  • Love
Reactions: amigo de christo

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
29,847
50,601
113
53
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I can't do anything good by my own power. It's only by and through the Holy Spirit/Spirit of Christ, that anything good comes from me personally. I'm thankful that Jesus and his yoke is easy, and his burden is light. If people wanna fight, bicker, and what not. I am not better than anyone on this website. Humility is so important. Hope people who are really look to follow after the Lord Yeshua, continue to do so, and may all of you be blessed, and may God give the increase.
I i know you cant mathew . No man can .
The problem is , a lot of what you do and speak , IT STILL AINT COMING from NO HOLY SPIRIT mathew .
SO go ahead and speak partial truths to appear to be humble .
THE POWER of the HOLY GHOST sure dont DENY HIS PATTERN , HIS TRUTH , and fall in love with a version of what the world calleth love .
 
  • Like
Reactions: Marvelloustime

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
29,847
50,601
113
53
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I had to ask AI what is interfaith, I still do not really know what that is. It sounds like all faiths (in various gods) coming togther (or something like that) and I asked because you are the only one I have come across that speaks of this (and I am blissfully ignorant of whatever that is).

So I asked,

Interfaith Meaning​

Interfaith refers to activities or relationships involving members of different religions. It encompasses various ways of relating between different beliefs, creeds, ideologies, faiths, or religions. This can include dialogue, cooperation, and understanding among people of different faith backgrounds.

Is this correct?
YES . but you need to see what they believe .
ITs a snare to get unequally yoked under the guise of doing good works .
YOU NEED to see what these leaders beleive . LOOK what pope francis and them interfaith intereligious leaders say .
TEHY ALL BELEIVE WE SERVE THE SAME GOD . that the christain truth is no better than any other religoins truth
or vice versa . ITS ALL A LIE of anti christ . its simply a means to merge us all under a concept of what
they will beleive is GOD and HIS LOVE. but its el diablo simply shutting down the truth and promoting a lie .
 
  • Like
Reactions: Marvelloustime

Verily

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2024
1,638
1,029
113
Sion the heavenly city
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
if you examine the accusation behind what most call finger pointing and accusing
ITS NOTHING MORE than this next scenario .
Now imagine you saw a sign that said finger pointing and condeming .
THEN you were given a special pair of glasses . SO you put on those glasses and WOW
all of a sudden you could see the real agenda behind them words .
IT WOULD READ , STOP EXPOSING OUR SIN , WE USE THE VICTIM AND ACCUSATION CARD to SILENCE YOUR VOICE .
You talking about this guy with those sunglasses?

 
  • Haha
Reactions: amigo de christo

MatthewG

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2021
16,575
5,512
113
34
Fyffe
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Here is something I would like to share concerning meekness.

Word Origin: Derived from the root word πραΰτης (prautēs), meaning "gentleness" or "meekness."

Corresponding Greek / Hebrew Entries: - H6035 (עָנָו, anav): Often translated as "meek" or "humble," used in contexts such as Numbers 12:3, describing Moses as "very humble, more than any man on the face of the earth."

Usage: The Greek word "praus" is often translated as "meek" or "gentle" in English. It describes a quality of character that is marked by humility and a gentle spirit. In the New Testament, "praus" is used to depict an attitude of submission to God's will, a willingness to endure injury with patience and without resentment, and a gentle approach towards others. It is not to be confused with weakness; rather, it is strength under control.
 

VictoryinJesus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2017
10,557
8,404
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Which verses did I post that pointed a finger?
I didn’t say you did point the finger. I was only responding to Ezekiel 14 which you quoted yourself. After you posted it I went to read it and I was only sharing with you that the meaning is different (Imo) when they would save themselves, instead of the shall or will.

Yet I can’t ignore the passages on finger pointing. Also, that is not saying you are pointing the finger but again those passages seem on topic.

I’m confused. The topic is on finger pointing and condemnation. Are you fighting for finger pointing and condemnation? Fighting against finger pointing and condemnation? Or trying to define what is finger pointing?

You have failed to show what the problem was with the verses posted as if one set of verses voided the other.
They had nothing to do with the question I had regarding the passage you quoted in Ezekiel which is what I was responding to. I’ve read your post. I’ve read all your quotes, but the one that taught me something was the one regarding Ezekiel saying these three men …even if I (the LORD) send a plague …they will save themselves by righteousness. To me it very helpful.
 

Marvelloustime

Well-Known Member
Sep 15, 2020
6,540
11,588
113
Heaven bound
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
LOL that is exactly what i was talking about .
@amigo de christo @Verily
I can’t watch / see this video, as it says not available in the country I am in. (Sodom & Gomorrah).

However, I can post this video, which backs up what ol’ brother Amigo is talking about. We must stay in our bibles and cleave to the biblical Lord Jesus Christ.
 
  • Love
Reactions: amigo de christo

Verily

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2024
1,638
1,029
113
Sion the heavenly city
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I didn’t say you did point the finger. I was only responding to Ezekiel 14 which you quoted yourself. After you posted it I went to read it and I was only sharing with you that the meaning is different (Imo) when they would save themselves, instead of the shall or will.

Yet I can’t ignore the passages on finger pointing. Also, that is not saying you are pointing the finger but again those passages seem on topic.

I’m confused. The topic is on finger pointing and condemnation. Are you fighting for finger pointing and condemnation? Fighting against finger pointing and condemnation? Or trying to define what is finger pointing?


They had nothing to do with the question I had regarding the passage you quoted in Ezekiel which is what I was responding to. I’ve read your post. I’ve read all your quotes, but the one that taught me something was the one regarding Ezekiel saying these three men …even if I (the LORD) send a plague …they will save themselves by righteousness. To me it very helpful.
I certainly am not catching what it was you want me to see in your posts, that was unclear
 

Verily

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2024
1,638
1,029
113
Sion the heavenly city
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
@amigo de christo @Verily
I can’t watch / see this video, as it says not available in the country I am in. (Sodom & Gomorrah).

However, I can post this video, which backs up what ol’ brother Amigo is talking about. We must stay in our bibles and cleave to the biblical Lord Jesus Christ.
You showed me this on another thread, I didnt want to click on it because I dont really tune into anything a Pope has to say, and so basically he is denying Jesus is the way or that these various religions are various ways people are seeking God and so that Christ does not matter? Or that these people seeking God (even though not by Christ, by whom we come to the one true and living God) could be very much off base, that eventually their paths (if God be gracious) will eventually lead them to Christ. Basically meaning, that these paths, though incorrect, if God be gracious and draw them to the true way (Jesus Christ) will end up by the mercy of God where they need to be?

I am guessing, I went down all sorts of bad roads, and rabbit holes and by the grace of God and the mercy of God he drew me to His Son.
 

VictoryinJesus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2017
10,557
8,404
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Christ tells us,

Mat 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

Which agrees with

Jerm 18:7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;

Jerm 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

Again,

Jonah 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.

Even as it says, God spoke by the prophets

Jonah 3:5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.

And even as it says here

Jona 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Which again, agrees with the above

Jerm 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

For the LORD has said,

I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live

And Jeus said,

Luke 11:30 For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.

Jesus just got done telling them

This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

The Son of man to the house of Israel to give warning similarly shown here

Ezek 33:7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

As the apostles also confirm saying,

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
You have not answered the question. How do you know turning away from sin is not, the same as, turning away from or removing the pointed finger from among you? Look at the list of the works of the flesh. Almost all come from high mindedness, slander of another, gossips, backbiting, breakers of peace, haters of God, liars and speakers of falsehoods and taking His name in vain. Spite. Bitterness. Murder. What else are the works of the flesh?

Concerning gays and trans and pride parades. I still can’t help thinking while yes it may be mockery… It is said every thing in the natural displays the spiritual. That is scary.

Do the religious with bullhorns trying to correct those in the world of sin carry on a pride parade?…do they put on their own pride parade? Did the Pharisees put on a pride parade? Yes? No? Oh how you stand on the street corners with your painted faces, pretending humidity?!

Do brothers condemning and knowing intercourse with the same sex does not display Christ….see they love and lust to get each other naked to look on each others nakedness? He talks about brothers giving another brother to drink of the bottle so they can get them drunk and look on their brothers shame? It’s not literal (Imo). It’s building up of self by exposing another as naked and without Christ.

While yes murder of children is evil and if we can see that even sick to the stomach over it…isn’t it just as evil to kill God’s children who are weak and have not the knowledge you have? (Not literal but Paul spoke of Christ being formed in them) do we kill that formation of Christ before Christ is born? Isn’t that the call to edification and building one other up in Christ?

I’m not denying lusting to get the same sex naked to have intercourse with them is not wrong. But I am asking …since we know it’s wrong and openly confess it by our big speeches ….are we not professing our own actions as worthy of death when we lust to expose our own brothers and sisters as naked? Tell me this doesn’t go on? A lust to exposes others naked state of lacking, that feeds our own lust to make someone else look rotten and ourselves to look good? Yet we are concerned with pride parades going on by gays and trans, and not one bit worried or concerned about the pride parades of those claiming to be Christ speaking?

Go look on YouTube at some of those experts on trans and gays burning …and will you see their own pride parade? If anything should there be no warning to those experts that the thing which they condemn, they themselves do?
 
Last edited:

Verily

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2024
1,638
1,029
113
Sion the heavenly city
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
You have not answered the question. How do you know turning away from sin is not, the same as, turning away from or removing the pointed finger from among you? Look at the list of the works of the flesh. Almost all come from high mindedness, slander of another, gossips, backbiting, breakers of peace, haters of God, liars and speakers of falsehoods and taking His name in vain. Spite. Bitterness. Murder. What else are the works of the flesh?

The answer to your question is where you are pulling the verses concerning the pointing of the finger

First verse

Isaiah 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.


Concerning gays and trans and pride parades. I still can’t help thinking while yes it may be mockery… It is said every thing in the natural displays the spiritual. That is scary.

It does say, God gave them over to a reprobate mind
Do the religious with bullhorns trying to correct those in the world of sin carry on a pride parade?

I posted

1 Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

do they put on their own pride parade? Did the Pharisees put on a pride parade? Yes? No? Oh how you stand on the street corners with your painted faces, pretending humidity?!

Again

1 Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

Do brothers condemning and knowing intercourse with the same sex does not display Christ….see they love and lust to get each other naked to look on each others nakedness? He talks about brothers giving another brother to drink of the bottle so they can get them drunk and look on their brothers shame? It’s not literal (Imo). It’s building up of self by exposing another as naked and without Christ.

While yes murder of children is evil and if we can see that even sick to the stomach over it…isn’t it just as evil to kill God’s children who are weak and have not the knowledge you have? (Not literal but Paul spoke of Christ being formed in them) do we kill that formation of Christ before Christ is born? Isn’t that the call to edification and building one other up in Christ?

I’m not denying lusting to get the same sex naked to have intercourse with them is not wrong. But I am asking …since we know it’s wrong and openly confess it by our big speeches ….are we not professing our own actions as worthy of death when we lust to expose our own brothers and sisters as naked. Tell me this doesn’t go on? A lust to exposes others naked state, that feeds our own lust to make someone else look rotten and ourselves good? Yet we are concerned with pride parades going on by gays and trans, on not one bit worried about the pride parades of those claiming to be Christ speaking?

This is why I am not getting your responses, pride movement out on the streets is disgusting, but its the one going on inside the church (not on the streets).

Again

1 Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
 

VictoryinJesus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2017
10,557
8,404
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The answer to your question is where you are pulling the verses concerning the pointing of the finger

First verse

Isaiah 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.




It does say, God gave them over to a reprobate mind


I posted

1 Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?



Again

1 Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?



This is why I am not getting your responses, pride movement out on the streets is disgusting, but its the one going on inside the church (not on the streets).

Again

1 Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
I’m not getting your responses either. All I’m saying is when we tell everyone what is wrong, hopefully we are not found doing the same of what we acknowledge as wrong.
 

VictoryinJesus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2017
10,557
8,404
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
1 Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
I don’t know what that verse means to you?

James 4:8-12 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double minded. [9] Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. [10] Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he will lift you up. [11] Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaks evil of his brother, and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law, and judges the law: but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge. [12] There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who are you that judges another?

What does that mean to you? Does it connect to the verse you’ve quoted multiple times?