Ritajanice
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I appreciate many of your posts also...you are a lovely Brother in Christ....the enemy hates me saying that, whereas God Loves to hear it, as it’s building one another up in Gods word and Love...
Keep those reminders coming!!..
Finger pointing and condemnation
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Keep those reminders coming!!..
Okay then, so you can't point to an actual verse that says Paul condemned an individual.
The only ones that Jesus himself condemned were the hypocrites and religious leaders.
John 3:17
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Jesus saved by love not finger pointing and condemnation.
Galatians 2:11-12 KJV
11) But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
12) For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
Philippians 4:2 KJV
I beseech Euodias, and beseech Syntyche, that they be of the same mind in the Lord.
Here are two places.
Much love!
You taken your example from the world of men (for example UK millitary) where even the natural men will judge what they consider to reprobate and unnatural. Whereas we are not to judge the world.
1 Cr 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
1 Cr 5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
Those who call themselves brothers is what he is speaking of
1 Cr 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
As he says,
1 Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1 Cr 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Correction: Will, not "will be"
Ritajanice
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Remember that enemy loves to see us all arguing and fighting one another, this topic has certainly opened up my mind more to his scheming ways...
What does God say about the enemy, he’s like a roaring lion waiting to devour someone...puts all that nasty nonsense in our heads about members, well he has to me, that’s for sure...only now he’s been uncovered....oh boy, must I be much more vigilant of his evil scheming ways...thank you Father God, for this topic..
What does God say about the enemy, he’s like a roaring lion waiting to devour someone...puts all that nasty nonsense in our heads about members, well he has to me, that’s for sure...only now he’s been uncovered....oh boy, must I be much more vigilant of his evil scheming ways...thank you Father God, for this topic..
Wrangler
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One of the best "in the Spirit" moments was at a neighbor's 50th birthday party. Her son came late but gravitated to me. We talked most of the night. He admitted sharing things with me he does not want to share with his mother. At some point, the Spirit prompted me to give him the last remaining Every Man's Bible NLT. I bought 10 and gave the rest away. I held on to the last one for months, unsure who to give it to.
I did not over think it. I walked briskly back home and back. I told him it may not be the best translation but it is very good and the study notes for men are outstanding. Upon looking at it, he wept openly. He confessed that he had been praying to find a good Bible for himself and then I gave him this. I knew I was the medium for the God to answer his prayer. It was very humbling.
Key take aways. Don't over think it. Humility. Act in the service of God and others. Downplay my contribution. All glory to God.
PS. His mother at her 55th birthday was diagnsed with terminal breast cancer. She already surpassed the time she was supposed to have left.
2 Timothy 4:14-15 KJV
14) Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
15) Of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our words.
1 Timothy 1:18-20 KJV
18) This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;
19) Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:
20) Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
This isn't to say we are free to point fingers whenever we like. Only to say, there is a time and a place, but only in the Lord.
Much love!
Todays churches (for example the Mennonite church) which had a total split and LBGTQ basically took over that one for the larger part. They VERY accepting of sexual immorality and a grace that gives license to all sorts of things.
Which would appeal to sinners, but not to repent but the receiving of its own as far as acceptance of what is reprobate and grace that grants a license to continue in these things.
The true grace of Gods teaches us self denial
Ti 2:12 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world
As far as something being joyless or not, that too depends, If someone is rejoices in iniquity they arent really walking in love, because love does not do that. They might believe that anyone who preaches against yielding their members unto the same to be rather joyless. BUT again, that would depend. If you went to the overtaken Mennonite church (which is now more LGBTQ+ ) who might love their lives, their sins etc, you may find church amazingly joyful now. Whereas some other place which actully teaches denying oneself and not living after the flesh a total drag. So it would all depend I would think.
amigo de christo
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Exactly . that is spot on right friend .
but todays version of what it calls judging and condeming , THEY HAD accused paul of condemning .
When , oh when is this church age gonna figure out
WE BEEN played by those who know how to shut down correction .
How come its okay for churches to honor pride month
and do so in the name of tolerance
WHICH IS FALSE tolerance,
but do take notice if a man even dares to stand and read WHAT YOU JUST POSTED , in a church
ALL OF a sudden in the name of so called love and tolerance , THEY RUN THAT MAN OUT
WHEN is this people gonna figure out this is a snare . a way to allow leaven to remain , a way
to in time even get people to accept the sin . OH they wont correct sinful behavoir in the church
BUT MAN they will rush all out to correct one who even brings SCRIPS , like the ones you brought . SOMETHING IS DEAD wrong
my friend . dead wrong and that is why leaven keeps getting fuller and fuller and fuller .
Jesus didn't condemn the woman caught in adultery. But He did say, "Go, and sin no more." He didn't condone staying in willful sin.
John 8:10-11
[10]When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
[11]She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
Exactly, not encouraging sin
Ephes 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
1 Cr 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
Dan Clarkston
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Sure about that???
He had some very harsh things to say to the pharisees and sadducees
Should Christians welcome sexual perversion in their midst ???
You did understand that God's Word teaches those doing these things (sexual perversion, among other works of the flesh) shall NOT inherit the Kingdom right?
Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Do you think Jesus will allow the sex perverts in to His Kingdom?
No, He will not.... unless they turn away from their perversion and get born again and live without their perversion including the desire for perversion but not acting on it which is still iniquity to desire sinful behavior
Ephesians 4:22-24
put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Romans 13:14
put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
Colossians 3:10
And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of Him that created Him:
2 Corinthians 6:17
come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
Yep, the prideful Rejecting God's Word is a big problem... which is how so many "christians" today think it's OK to continue living in sin and it's all good and God accepts them and their sinful lifestyles
And the perversion of the rainbow by the funny people?
Real men speak in support of what God says in His Word... so if you can't run
with the big dogs then you'd better stay up on the porch with the pups!
What kind of sin was Paul into???
Getting drunk? Smoking weed? Buying hookers? Gambling? Being a hit man on the side to earn extra cash?
Please do tell what all sin Paul was engaged in.
Yep, many today claiming to be "christians" have been deceived by the devil in to believing that once can be a pervert and saved at the same time.
So when people engage in sinful behavior... it was their flesh out doing that and they had nothing to do with it?
The false grace peoples are coming for you!
They will tell you that you are teaching a works based gospel and by ceasing from sinful behavior you are trying to earn your salvation
Dan Clarkston
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So when folks go to their church summer camp, they get a surprise when they drop the soap in the shower
This is the verse I was referring to
1 Ti 1:14 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Which would also fall nicely under the next one
Prov 20:6 Most men will proclaim every one his own goodness: but a faithful man who can find?
Says it in the previous verse that was posted above.
1 Ti 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
Which verses speaks of these works?
Dan Clarkston
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Yes, we WAS... a sinner.
He got born again and quit engaging in sinful behavior as the Lord had Paul write in these verses among others...
Ephesians 4:22-24
put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Romans 13:14
put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
Colossians 3:10
And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of Him that created Him:
2 Corinthians 6:17
come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
The false grace peoples claim if one quits their sinful behavior... they just trying to earn their salvation
Love is the highest value, in the Christian faith. However it is the most shunned, and looked down upon.
The attributes that pertain to love, in my opinion are all of a heavenly nature, and not a natural one.
James also writes of 2 types of Wisdoms, Earthly, and Heavenly.
The attributes that pertain to love, in my opinion are all of a heavenly nature, and not a natural one.
James also writes of 2 types of Wisdoms, Earthly, and Heavenly.
quietthinker
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Just as all are in Adam and have death passed onto all involuntarily, so all are alive in Jesus and have been gifted with life everlasting.
1 Corinthians 15:22 'For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive'
Our status in Adam gives us no choice on life, we are predetermined to die.
Our status in Jesus gives us a choice to die. We can reject the life he has gifted us in himself.
Subsequently, The Good News.
Romans 5:10-11 'For since our friendship with God was restored by the death of his Son while we were still his enemies, we will certainly be saved through the life of his Son. So now we can rejoice in our wonderful new relationship with God because our Lord Jesus Christ has made us friends of God.'
However, if we choose to distance ourselves from Jesus, we also distance ourselves from life .....even while it is ours in Jesus.
Distancing oneself from life is known as suicide. We have life yet a choice is made to terminate it.
This applies to all, all ,all....even LGBTQ.
Marvelloustime
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